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Message ID: 523
Date: Mon Jun 14 10:43:03 BST 1999
Author: LKW
Subject: Re: Something...
> At first, Harm Touch cannot be resisted and does damage = 1/2 of thetotal HP a
> target has. But then, people abuse it.the beta
>
> With 2 SK, anything could be killed without any problem.
>
> The problem with most sites on the net is that info was all taken from
> and was never changed. (One example, many site still list that Paladincan't
> use a bow)something
>
> LKW wrote:
>
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> > No need to shake head lah, only discussion mah. ;)
> >
> > Harm touch can be resisted? Doh, I read from the net that it's
> > which cannot be resisted, just like Paladin's lay hand. No?from
> >
> > Anyway, learn alot from ya msg, thou kinda different from what I read
> > the net. Nevertheless it's useful for all to consider when making anew
> > char.been
> >
> > Mondain.
> >
> > On Monday, June 14, 1999 5:25 PM, Sereph [SMTP:garford@...]
> > wrote:
> > > *shakes head*
> > >
> > > The grass will always appear greener on the other side unless you've
> > theremess
> > > before. so far, with my experience of EQ since the 3rd beta, I have
> > aroundMagicians.
> > > with Shadow Knights, Paladins, Enchanters, Necros, Shamans and
> > Thenot
> > > other classes I have not much experiences with so I won't comment.
> > >
> > > The problem with Shadow knight is this.
> > >
> > > At first glance, harm touch appears to be very powerful, dealing 10 X
> > level + 1
> > > damage, but what many people don't know is that:
> > >
> > > 1. Harm Touch is counted as an alteration spell. IOWs, it can be
> > resisted.
> > > 2. Being alteration in nature, part of its damage can be resisted.
> > >
> > > On average, with a level 13 TSK, I constantly do around 70-80 damage,
> > theto
> > > full 131 I expect it to do and miss twice ever 10 times I tyr.
> > >
> > > Unless you choose Dark Elf or Humans as a SK, you would not be able
> > castgains
> > > spells the level you get them, as Ogres and Trolls have an aweful
> > intelligence
> > > score, which bring about another problem, Troll/Orge Shadow Knight
> > skillsskill
> > > at a painful pace. They often find themselves unable to reach the
> > cap ofwould
> > > their level.
> > >
> > > On regenaration, at low levels, it is a fantastic thing, but at high
> > level,
> > > nothing functions better than a real healing spell.
> > >
> > > At level 40, an average TSK is expected to have around 1200 hp and
> > expectwith
> > > to take any where from 200-800 hp worth of damage per battle. Even
> > > regenaration, it is still take around 10-20mins to regenerate theamount.
> > >is
> > > Thus, the TSK is not really able to solo at high levels. Level 1-15
> > easy,way
> > > but after this range, due to slow level advancement and an unreliable
> > ofcan
> > > healing, they can't solo well.
> > >
> > > The advantage TSK have over other hybrid warrior classes is that they
> > stillgain
> > > bash when using 2 handed slashing weapons.
> > >
> > > Troll Shamans are worse off. Being a priest class, they will never
> > > additional attack, and damage they deal is capped. At level 16, youreach
> > yournor
> > > melee damage cap.
> > >
> > > In addition Shamans don't really have fantastic direct damage spells
> > goodfaster
> > > healing ability so soloing past 16 is hard/near impossible.
> > >
> > > Troll Warriors fair slightly better than TSK as they hit harder,
> > and hasspecial
> > > more HP, but they still need reliable backup to reach high levels.
> > >
> > > Monks I agree is one of the best class to solo with. The various
> > > attacks do a lot of damage and mend, at high level almost never fail.else
> > Healing
> > > 1/4 of your HP every 6 minutes is damn useful.
> > >
> > > Priest class can never solo well unless they go to areas where their
> > wards
> > > spell can be use (Befallen for Clerics, Elemental Planes for Druids)
> > theyentrance
> > > fare very badly against normal enermies
> > >
> > > For Wizards, the only way they solo is Root -> Damage spells, damage
> > > spells.......
> > >
> > > If root runs out, they're toast, and most would dash towards the
> > > bringing trains....... A very common sight.spells
> > >
> > > IMO, these class can solo pretty well from mid to high levels.
> > >
> > > Monks
> > > Necros (Provided that nessesary spells could be researched)
> > > Magicians (Same as Necro)
> > > Enchanters (Only after Tashani, Beguile and Clam)
> > >
> > > LKW wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > >
> > > > There is no doubt a TSK can solo best in EQ. They have the harm
> > > > which is as good as Paladin's healing ability (no saving throw ortroll
> > failure),
> > > > yet they have the ability of regenerating HP ability. I made a
> > > > shaman in Innoruuk for testing, at lvl 1 my first victim is amonster
> > whichanything as
> > > > is yellow to me. And within the first 10 min I play, I gain a lvl.
> > > >
> > > > Btw, all classes always complain that they are weaker than other
> > classes,
> > > > seem to be a norm, hehe. I even read from the net how a lvl 40+
> > warrior
> > > > complained abt his char as compare to a shadowknight who is few lvl
> > below
> > > > him - coz in term of soloing, this warrior can't handle big monster
> > like
> > > > that shadowknight.
> > > >
> > > > EQSS also have an article abt soloing - and they rank troll
> > theeric
> > > > easiest soloing char, esp TSK, followed by wiz, shaman, dwarf cl
> > andkick
> > > > monk. One thing abt monk, at lvl 35+ they will jump to 2nd in the
> > list, ie
> > > > the next best soloing class after Troll something, due to the new
> > ass[SMTP:garford@...]
> > > > skills they achieve at higher level.
> > > >
> > > > Mondain
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 1:50 PM, Sereph
> > > > wrote:level up
> > > > > Troll Shadow Knights are surpose to be good??? Come on, they
> > at50%
> > > > a
> > > > > snail place (25% pentalty for being a hybrid class, additional
> > forwanna
> > > > being a
> > > > > troll I think) and Harm touch is useless as it can be resisted.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's why you hear a lot of SK complaning on why they are weaker
> > then
> > > > > Paladins.
> > > > >
> > > > > LKW wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, no more agnostic for necro. This is becoz too many pple
> > getafter
> > > > the
> > > > > > goodies from TSK or Necro but yet wanna enjoy good faction
> > > > killingimproving ya
> > > > > > hundreds of orcs by selecting agnostic (coz it help in
> > > > > > faction). Afterall evil classes are made more powerful toonce
> > compensate
> > > > their
> > > > > > faction hit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dark Elf alone shld be quite easy to improve faction - Kenven
> > didFreeport
> > > > it
> > > > > > b4 as a DE warrior, by killing many orcs and he can enter
> > atdo
> > > > lvl 9
> > > > > > I think (but some npc merchants at commonlands still refuse to
> > bizgood
> > > > with
> > > > > > him). But DEN is more evil, so u will need more time to gain
> > > > faction.in
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why not we create a Dark Elves/Trolls evil team, forget abt the
> > good
> > > > > > faction thingy and bash the good races city, hehe. I read some
> > high
> > > > lvl
> > > > > > dark elf wizards/shadow knights actually attack Freeport guards
> > > > othereither
> > > > > > servers (no need to find monsters to hunt, lol), sound kewl!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Btw, Leshrec also got a DEN in Prexus server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mondain
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 9:07 AM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > > > > ok... im not sure if its true... ive read up article from
> > > > Everloreit
> > > > > > or EQVault... or EQ Stratics... in one of the necro guides...
> > > > mentionedits
> > > > > > no able to choose agnostic fer Dark Elves anymore... wonder if
> > > > true...weekend
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fred aka SilverHand.
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Entreri
> > > > > > > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:55 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To improve faction,there are 2 ways
> > > > > > > 1.If possible,choose agnostic when choosing ya race...
> > > > > > > 2.kill as many orcs as possible
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Entreri
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Email: drizzt@...
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > <sccheng@...>
> > > > > > > To: SG-Everquest Mailing List <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:30 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi all,
> > > > > > > it seems that quite abit had happened over the pass
> > whenive
> > > > i
> > > > > > wasnt around... the party got formed... n stuff like that... n
> > > > readupgeneral...
> > > > > > abit on the few websites over the weekend... i think in
> > thefrom
> > > > > > necromancer has spells that spread over a pretty wide range...
> > > > > > summoning... to direct damage... to healing... that no onebut
> > spellcasting
> > > > > > class can provide... however this is with the drawback of
> > faction....
> > > > so i
> > > > > > guess my first char in EQ will most likely be a Necromancer...
> > ithat....
> > > > havent
> > > > > > decide to make a Erudite or Dark Elf Necro ... most likely Dark
> > Elf...
> > > > but
> > > > > > i think i need to do more research on faction n stuff like
> > > > maybethat
> > > > > > some of u guys can help me out here... esp Leshrec...
> > > > > > > 1. is it that bad that a Dark Elf Necro is KOS in other
> > > > towns/cities?
> > > > > > > 2. how difficult is to be able to better the faction so
> > onei
> > > > can
> > > > > > enter those cities without KOS? n how can u do it?
> > > > > > > 3. what about Eruite Necro?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pls advice :) although i havent got my EQ here yet... but
> > wouldwithin
> > > > > > like to be fully prepared fer it b4 it comes... :) hopefully
> > > > thisweekend...
> > > > > > week... otherwise next... as i can only play during the
> > > > BTW...as u
> > > > > > count me in... in ya guild.... i should be in the same server
> > > > guys...be
> > > > > > but i guess i will be progressing slowly... most likely i will
> > usingadvice
> > > > > > SilverHand. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, not sure about Trade Skills... anyone has any
> > feron a
> > > > > > Necros? Also, u think it will be better to have 1 trade skills
> > > > char----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > rather than 2? or does it matter? thats all i got fer now...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > > Fred
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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