At first, Harm Touch cannot be resisted and does damage = 1/2 of the total HP a
target has. But then, people abuse it.
With 2 SK, anything could be killed without any problem.
The problem with most sites on the net is that info was all taken from the beta
and was never changed. (One example, many site still list that Paladin can't
use a bow)
LKW wrote:
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
> No need to shake head lah, only discussion mah. ;)
>
> Harm touch can be resisted? Doh, I read from the net that it's something
> which cannot be resisted, just like Paladin's lay hand. No?
>
> Anyway, learn alot from ya msg, thou kinda different from what I read from
> the net. Nevertheless it's useful for all to consider when making a new
> char.
>
> Mondain.
>
> On Monday, June 14, 1999 5:25 PM, Sereph [SMTP:garford@...]
> wrote:
> > *shakes head*
> >
> > The grass will always appear greener on the other side unless you've been
> there
> > before. so far, with my experience of EQ since the 3rd beta, I have mess
> around
> > with Shadow Knights, Paladins, Enchanters, Necros, Shamans and Magicians.
> The
> > other classes I have not much experiences with so I won't comment.
> >
> > The problem with Shadow knight is this.
> >
> > At first glance, harm touch appears to be very powerful, dealing 10 X
> level + 1
> > damage, but what many people don't know is that:
> >
> > 1. Harm Touch is counted as an alteration spell. IOWs, it can be
> resisted.
> > 2. Being alteration in nature, part of its damage can be resisted.
> >
> > On average, with a level 13 TSK, I constantly do around 70-80 damage, not
> the
> > full 131 I expect it to do and miss twice ever 10 times I tyr.
> >
> > Unless you choose Dark Elf or Humans as a SK, you would not be able to
> cast
> > spells the level you get them, as Ogres and Trolls have an aweful
> intelligence
> > score, which bring about another problem, Troll/Orge Shadow Knight gains
> skills
> > at a painful pace. They often find themselves unable to reach the skill
> cap of
> > their level.
> >
> > On regenaration, at low levels, it is a fantastic thing, but at high
> level,
> > nothing functions better than a real healing spell.
> >
> > At level 40, an average TSK is expected to have around 1200 hp and would
> expect
> > to take any where from 200-800 hp worth of damage per battle. Even with
> > regenaration, it is still take around 10-20mins to regenerate the amount.
> >
> > Thus, the TSK is not really able to solo at high levels. Level 1-15 is
> easy,
> > but after this range, due to slow level advancement and an unreliable way
> of
> > healing, they can't solo well.
> >
> > The advantage TSK have over other hybrid warrior classes is that they can
> still
> > bash when using 2 handed slashing weapons.
> >
> > Troll Shamans are worse off. Being a priest class, they will never gain
> > additional attack, and damage they deal is capped. At level 16, you reach
> your
> > melee damage cap.
> >
> > In addition Shamans don't really have fantastic direct damage spells nor
> good
> > healing ability so soloing past 16 is hard/near impossible.
> >
> > Troll Warriors fair slightly better than TSK as they hit harder, faster
> and has
> > more HP, but they still need reliable backup to reach high levels.
> >
> > Monks I agree is one of the best class to solo with. The various special
> > attacks do a lot of damage and mend, at high level almost never fail.
> Healing
> > 1/4 of your HP every 6 minutes is damn useful.
> >
> > Priest class can never solo well unless they go to areas where their
> wards
> > spell can be use (Befallen for Clerics, Elemental Planes for Druids) else
> they
> > fare very badly against normal enermies
> >
> > For Wizards, the only way they solo is Root -> Damage spells, damage
> > spells.......
> >
> > If root runs out, they're toast, and most would dash towards the entrance
> > bringing trains....... A very common sight.
> >
> > IMO, these class can solo pretty well from mid to high levels.
> >
> > Monks
> > Necros (Provided that nessesary spells could be researched)
> > Magicians (Same as Necro)
> > Enchanters (Only after Tashani, Beguile and Clam)
> >
> > LKW wrote:
> >
> > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >
> > > There is no doubt a TSK can solo best in EQ. They have the harm spells
> > > which is as good as Paladin's healing ability (no saving throw or
> failure),
> > > yet they have the ability of regenerating HP ability. I made a troll
> > > shaman in Innoruuk for testing, at lvl 1 my first victim is a monster
> which
> > > is yellow to me. And within the first 10 min I play, I gain a lvl.
> > >
> > > Btw, all classes always complain that they are weaker than other
> classes,
> > > seem to be a norm, hehe. I even read from the net how a lvl 40+
> warrior
> > > complained abt his char as compare to a shadowknight who is few lvl
> below
> > > him - coz in term of soloing, this warrior can't handle big monster
> like
> > > that shadowknight.
> > >
> > > EQSS also have an article abt soloing - and they rank troll anything as
> the
> > > easiest soloing char, esp TSK, followed by wiz, shaman, dwarf cleric
> and
> > > monk. One thing abt monk, at lvl 35+ they will jump to 2nd in the
> list, ie
> > > the next best soloing class after Troll something, due to the new kick
> ass
> > > skills they achieve at higher level.
> > >
> > > Mondain
> > >
> > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 1:50 PM, Sereph [SMTP:garford@...]
> > > wrote:
> > > > Troll Shadow Knights are surpose to be good??? Come on, they level up
> at
> > > a
> > > > snail place (25% pentalty for being a hybrid class, additional 50%
> for
> > > being a
> > > > troll I think) and Harm touch is useless as it can be resisted.
> > > >
> > > > That's why you hear a lot of SK complaning on why they are weaker
> then
> > > > Paladins.
> > > >
> > > > LKW wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > >
> > > > > Yep, no more agnostic for necro. This is becoz too many pple wanna
> get
> > > the
> > > > > goodies from TSK or Necro but yet wanna enjoy good faction after
> > > killing
> > > > > hundreds of orcs by selecting agnostic (coz it help in improving ya
> > > > > faction). Afterall evil classes are made more powerful to
> compensate
> > > their
> > > > > faction hit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dark Elf alone shld be quite easy to improve faction - Kenven once
> did
> > > it
> > > > > b4 as a DE warrior, by killing many orcs and he can enter Freeport
> at
> > > lvl 9
> > > > > I think (but some npc merchants at commonlands still refuse to do
> biz
> > > with
> > > > > him). But DEN is more evil, so u will need more time to gain good
> > > faction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why not we create a Dark Elves/Trolls evil team, forget abt the
> good
> > > > > faction thingy and bash the good races city, hehe. I read some
> high
> > > lvl
> > > > > dark elf wizards/shadow knights actually attack Freeport guards in
> > > other
> > > > > servers (no need to find monsters to hunt, lol), sound kewl!
> > > > >
> > > > > Btw, Leshrec also got a DEN in Prexus server.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mondain
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 9:07 AM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > > > ok... im not sure if its true... ive read up article from either
> > > Everlore
> > > > > or EQVault... or EQ Stratics... in one of the necro guides... it
> > > mentioned
> > > > > no able to choose agnostic fer Dark Elves anymore... wonder if its
> > > true...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fred aka SilverHand.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Entreri
> > > > > > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:55 AM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To improve faction,there are 2 ways
> > > > > > 1.If possible,choose agnostic when choosing ya race...
> > > > > > 2.kill as many orcs as possible
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Entreri
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Email: drizzt@...
> > > > > > ICQ UIN: 2326860
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> > > > > > http://www.sg-gaming.net
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > .plan at
> > > > > >
> http://www.wplan.com/cgibin/directplan.cgi?name=Entreri&viewpass=
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> <sccheng@...>
> > > > > > To: SG-Everquest Mailing List <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > > > Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:30 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > hi all,
> > > > > > it seems that quite abit had happened over the pass weekend
> when
> > > i
> > > > > wasnt around... the party got formed... n stuff like that... n ive
> > > readup
> > > > > abit on the few websites over the weekend... i think in general...
> the
> > > > > necromancer has spells that spread over a pretty wide range... from
> > > > > summoning... to direct damage... to healing... that no one
> spellcasting
> > > > > class can provide... however this is with the drawback of
> faction....
> > > so i
> > > > > guess my first char in EQ will most likely be a Necromancer... but
> i
> > > havent
> > > > > decide to make a Erudite or Dark Elf Necro ... most likely Dark
> Elf...
> > > but
> > > > > i think i need to do more research on faction n stuff like that....
> > > maybe
> > > > > some of u guys can help me out here... esp Leshrec...
> > > > > > 1. is it that bad that a Dark Elf Necro is KOS in other
> > > towns/cities?
> > > > > > 2. how difficult is to be able to better the faction so that
> one
> > > can
> > > > > enter those cities without KOS? n how can u do it?
> > > > > > 3. what about Eruite Necro?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pls advice :) although i havent got my EQ here yet... but i
> would
> > > > > like to be fully prepared fer it b4 it comes... :) hopefully within
> > > this
> > > > > week... otherwise next... as i can only play during the weekend...
> > > BTW...
> > > > > count me in... in ya guild.... i should be in the same server as u
> > > guys...
> > > > > but i guess i will be progressing slowly... most likely i will be
> using
> > > > > SilverHand. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, not sure about Trade Skills... anyone has any advice
> fer
> > > > > Necros? Also, u think it will be better to have 1 trade skills on a
> > > char
> > > > > rather than 2? or does it matter? thats all i got fer now...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > Fred
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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