No need to shake head lah, only discussion mah. ;)
Harm touch can be resisted? Doh, I read from the net that it's something
which cannot be resisted, just like Paladin's lay hand. No?
Anyway, learn alot from ya msg, thou kinda different from what I read from
the net. Nevertheless it's useful for all to consider when making a new
char.
Mondain.
On Monday, June 14, 1999 5:25 PM, Sereph [SMTP:
garford@...]
wrote:
> *shakes head*
>
> The grass will always appear greener on the other side unless you've been
there
> before. so far, with my experience of EQ since the 3rd beta, I have mess
around
> with Shadow Knights, Paladins, Enchanters, Necros, Shamans and Magicians.
The
> other classes I have not much experiences with so I won't comment.
>
> The problem with Shadow knight is this.
>
> At first glance, harm touch appears to be very powerful, dealing 10 X
level + 1
> damage, but what many people don't know is that:
>
> 1. Harm Touch is counted as an alteration spell. IOWs, it can be
resisted.
> 2. Being alteration in nature, part of its damage can be resisted.
>
> On average, with a level 13 TSK, I constantly do around 70-80 damage, not
the
> full 131 I expect it to do and miss twice ever 10 times I tyr.
>
> Unless you choose Dark Elf or Humans as a SK, you would not be able to
cast
> spells the level you get them, as Ogres and Trolls have an aweful
intelligence
> score, which bring about another problem, Troll/Orge Shadow Knight gains
skills
> at a painful pace. They often find themselves unable to reach the skill
cap of
> their level.
>
> On regenaration, at low levels, it is a fantastic thing, but at high
level,
> nothing functions better than a real healing spell.
>
> At level 40, an average TSK is expected to have around 1200 hp and would
expect
> to take any where from 200-800 hp worth of damage per battle. Even with
> regenaration, it is still take around 10-20mins to regenerate the amount.
>
> Thus, the TSK is not really able to solo at high levels. Level 1-15 is
easy,
> but after this range, due to slow level advancement and an unreliable way
of
> healing, they can't solo well.
>
> The advantage TSK have over other hybrid warrior classes is that they can
still
> bash when using 2 handed slashing weapons.
>
> Troll Shamans are worse off. Being a priest class, they will never gain
> additional attack, and damage they deal is capped. At level 16, you reach
your
> melee damage cap.
>
> In addition Shamans don't really have fantastic direct damage spells nor
good
> healing ability so soloing past 16 is hard/near impossible.
>
> Troll Warriors fair slightly better than TSK as they hit harder, faster
and has
> more HP, but they still need reliable backup to reach high levels.
>
> Monks I agree is one of the best class to solo with. The various special
> attacks do a lot of damage and mend, at high level almost never fail.
Healing
> 1/4 of your HP every 6 minutes is damn useful.
>
> Priest class can never solo well unless they go to areas where their
wards
> spell can be use (Befallen for Clerics, Elemental Planes for Druids) else
they
> fare very badly against normal enermies
>
> For Wizards, the only way they solo is Root -> Damage spells, damage
> spells.......
>
> If root runs out, they're toast, and most would dash towards the entrance
> bringing trains....... A very common sight.
>
> IMO, these class can solo pretty well from mid to high levels.
>
> Monks
> Necros (Provided that nessesary spells could be researched)
> Magicians (Same as Necro)
> Enchanters (Only after Tashani, Beguile and Clam)
>
> LKW wrote:
>
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> > There is no doubt a TSK can solo best in EQ. They have the harm spells
> > which is as good as Paladin's healing ability (no saving throw or
failure),
> > yet they have the ability of regenerating HP ability. I made a troll
> > shaman in Innoruuk for testing, at lvl 1 my first victim is a monster
which
> > is yellow to me. And within the first 10 min I play, I gain a lvl.
> >
> > Btw, all classes always complain that they are weaker than other
classes,
> > seem to be a norm, hehe. I even read from the net how a lvl 40+
warrior
> > complained abt his char as compare to a shadowknight who is few lvl
below
> > him - coz in term of soloing, this warrior can't handle big monster
like
> > that shadowknight.
> >
> > EQSS also have an article abt soloing - and they rank troll anything as
the
> > easiest soloing char, esp TSK, followed by wiz, shaman, dwarf cleric
and
> > monk. One thing abt monk, at lvl 35+ they will jump to 2nd in the
list, ie
> > the next best soloing class after Troll something, due to the new kick
ass
> > skills they achieve at higher level.
> >
> > Mondain
> >
> > On Monday, June 14, 1999 1:50 PM, Sereph [SMTP:garford@...]
> > wrote:
> > > Troll Shadow Knights are surpose to be good??? Come on, they level up
at
> > a
> > > snail place (25% pentalty for being a hybrid class, additional 50%
for
> > being a
> > > troll I think) and Harm touch is useless as it can be resisted.
> > >
> > > That's why you hear a lot of SK complaning on why they are weaker
then
> > > Paladins.
> > >
> > > LKW wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > >
> > > > Yep, no more agnostic for necro. This is becoz too many pple wanna
get
> > the
> > > > goodies from TSK or Necro but yet wanna enjoy good faction after
> > killing
> > > > hundreds of orcs by selecting agnostic (coz it help in improving ya
> > > > faction). Afterall evil classes are made more powerful to
compensate
> > their
> > > > faction hit.
> > > >
> > > > Dark Elf alone shld be quite easy to improve faction - Kenven once
did
> > it
> > > > b4 as a DE warrior, by killing many orcs and he can enter Freeport
at
> > lvl 9
> > > > I think (but some npc merchants at commonlands still refuse to do
biz
> > with
> > > > him). But DEN is more evil, so u will need more time to gain good
> > faction.
> > > >
> > > > Why not we create a Dark Elves/Trolls evil team, forget abt the
good
> > > > faction thingy and bash the good races city, hehe. I read some
high
> > lvl
> > > > dark elf wizards/shadow knights actually attack Freeport guards in
> > other
> > > > servers (no need to find monsters to hunt, lol), sound kewl!
> > > >
> > > > Btw, Leshrec also got a DEN in Prexus server.
> > > >
> > > > Mondain
> > > >
> > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 9:07 AM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > > ok... im not sure if its true... ive read up article from either
> > Everlore
> > > > or EQVault... or EQ Stratics... in one of the necro guides... it
> > mentioned
> > > > no able to choose agnostic fer Dark Elves anymore... wonder if its
> > true...
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred aka SilverHand.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Entreri
> > > > > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:55 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To improve faction,there are 2 ways
> > > > > 1.If possible,choose agnostic when choosing ya race...
> > > > > 2.kill as many orcs as possible
> > > > >
> > > > > Entreri
> > > > >
> > > > > Email: drizzt@...
> > > > > ICQ UIN: 2326860
> > > > > Previewer, Singularity Gaming Network
> > > > > http://www.sg-gaming.net
> > > > > Your Single Source of Everything Gaming
> > > > >
> > > > > .plan at
> > > > >
http://www.wplan.com/cgibin/directplan.cgi?name=Entreri&viewpass=
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
<
sccheng@...>
> > > > > To: SG-Everquest Mailing List <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > > Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:30 AM
> > > > > Subject: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi all,
> > > > > it seems that quite abit had happened over the pass weekend
when
> > i
> > > > wasnt around... the party got formed... n stuff like that... n ive
> > readup
> > > > abit on the few websites over the weekend... i think in general...
the
> > > > necromancer has spells that spread over a pretty wide range... from
> > > > summoning... to direct damage... to healing... that no one
spellcasting
> > > > class can provide... however this is with the drawback of
faction....
> > so i
> > > > guess my first char in EQ will most likely be a Necromancer... but
i
> > havent
> > > > decide to make a Erudite or Dark Elf Necro ... most likely Dark
Elf...
> > but
> > > > i think i need to do more research on faction n stuff like that....
> > maybe
> > > > some of u guys can help me out here... esp Leshrec...
> > > > > 1. is it that bad that a Dark Elf Necro is KOS in other
> > towns/cities?
> > > > > 2. how difficult is to be able to better the faction so that
one
> > can
> > > > enter those cities without KOS? n how can u do it?
> > > > > 3. what about Eruite Necro?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pls advice :) although i havent got my EQ here yet... but i
would
> > > > like to be fully prepared fer it b4 it comes... :) hopefully within
> > this
> > > > week... otherwise next... as i can only play during the weekend...
> > BTW...
> > > > count me in... in ya guild.... i should be in the same server as u
> > guys...
> > > > but i guess i will be progressing slowly... most likely i will be
using
> > > > SilverHand. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, not sure about Trade Skills... anyone has any advice
fer
> > > > Necros? Also, u think it will be better to have 1 trade skills on a
> > char
> > > > rather than 2? or does it matter? thats all i got fer now...
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > > Fred
> > > > >
> > > >
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