Mage can nuke next to Wizards, only at the circle Mages attain their new DD.
But the circle after it, almost all other class out-damage a Mage in DD.
Level 29 Cleric spell Wraith or something do 290+ while Mages have to stick
to their level 24 DD, do about 240. Our pets are the best 'trainer' in the
game, ever seen a pet go chasing a green into Unrest estate and end up
pulling Hags and Hands out from it? It happens often, esp. when you lag and
cannot call you pet back in time before it go on his merry chase.
Ya lah, Mages do more damage than Wiz at 34-39 range, but at any other, we
fall far far behind every class liao. EE's spell is a EarthQuake spell that
does about twice the max. damage of the Elemental. No root effect, no snare,
just plain DD on the MOB.
>From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
>Reply-To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
>To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Magi Talk
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:42:03 +0800
>
>From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
>
>No ah, Magi bolt casting time is slower than wizard shocks definately. The
>reason is because 1)Shock spells cast faster and 2)All of wizards spell
>cast
>a little faster than other pure casting classes, one of our advantages
>other
>than the mana efficient DD. Oh yeah, Wizards DD also more mana efficient
>than Magicians' one I think. And about the Earth elemental pet, I think if
>you stand close enuff, theres a msg about the earth rumbling whenever the
>pet casts spell. like that ebon says, its probably a low damage DD, like
>earth quake.
>Talking about pets, pets are quite useless in dungeons actually and
>sometimes they even 'help' you pull trains. Magis also don't get teleport
>spells so they *should* be able to solo better. Anyways, every class is fun
>if you like what you do =)
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>Date: Thursday, September 30, 1999 11:04 AM
>Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Magi Talk
>
>
> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> >1. Hmm, I think it's the other way round leh. Bolt cast faster than
>shock,
> >but it's non-guided missle and normally slightly higher dam, LOS is also
>a
> >factor when targeting. Let me check my bolt and shock casting time
> >tonight.
> >2. Alamak, every class also complain, hehe, grass-elsewhere-greener
> >syndrome I guess. At least u magi nuke next to wiz, PLUS u got a pet to
> >tank for u..
> >3. I'm talking abt the range lvl 34-38. Magi dd inflict higher dam than
> >Wiz lah, no arguement on that. FF's lvl 34 dd is more than 310, while my
> >lvl 34 dd is only 30X. But even magi with a higher dd, I can easily draw
> >mob to me but not the other way round. My death at lvl 35 with FF (lvl
>34
> >magi) and Zan (lvl 35 magi) prove it ;)
> >4. Magi is more of a supporting/nuking role in a grp, where wiz is pure
> >nuker. There is no arguement magi is the 2nd best nuker after wiz. And
> >with ya lvl 49 dd spell of 900dam, you guys are not 1/2 wiz coz our
>highest
> >dd spell is only 1200 (ie ya's is 75% of ours, not 50%), plus the fact u
> >guys can get tat spell easier and cast faster.
> >5. Overall speaking, other than dungeon, magi shld survive better than
>wiz,
> >if u play well.
> >
> >Ziltus
> >*Kiting all the way*
> >
> >p/s: I think I see low lvl EE roots..no?
> >
> >On Thursday, 30 September, 1999 6:32 AM, Chen Lizhi
> >[SMTP:polarcoordinates@...] wrote:
> >> From: "Chen Lizhi" <polarcoordinates@...>
> >>
> >> I think you have a misconception here...
> >> 1)Bolt spells needs longer than Shock spells to cast, unless you
> >specialize
> >> in Evocation and maxed it then it is a different story. If not, Bolt
> >> generally needs longer than Shock.
> >> 2)Necro's pets are bugged now, if you give them a weapon, they will
>take
> >the
> >> speed of the weapon and the base damage of the MOB of their level. That
> >> means that if you give it a weapon with 13 delay at level 49 it will
>hit
> >> with 13 delay and for about 50-60 a pop. That is why they toned down
>both
> >> the Mage and Necro pet the previous patch. But from what I can see from
> >the
> >> screams and flames in a msg. board, I think Necro's pet still no
>change,
> >> only lower damage. They still take the speed of the weapon you give it.
> >> 3)Mages nuke never draw the MOB to us because for level 29 to 33 and
> >level
> >> 39 to 44 Wizards can do almost twice the damage a Mage can. This is
> >because
> >> Mages gets a new DD or Bolt spell every 10 levels. That is why MOBs
>seems
> >to
> >> be attracted to Wizards like ants to sugar.
> >> 4)Our buffs are 'store buffs'... I hate to burst you bubble, but the
>only
> >> thing Mages have worth summoning that is useful to a group is
> >RingofFlight.
> >> Our other 'store buffs'/weapon summoning spell also useful, if everyone
> >dies
> >> and need to get their body back from the middle of a dungeon. Even
>then,
> >the
> >> weapon's stats is pathetic for their level. Imagine using a
> >> BarbedLeatherWhip at level 38 to fight without any armor.
> >> 5)Pets tank for you while you flee. No arguement, my Mage have saved my
> >> party numerous time by making my pet to tank the stupid GreaterDarkBone
> >that
> >> drops through the ceiling in the Unrest Bartender room.
> >>
> >> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >> >Reply-To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
> >> >To: "'sg-everquest@onelist.com'" <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >> >Subject: [sg-everquest] Magi Talk
> >> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:37:58 +0800
> >> >
> >> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >> >
> >> >I disagree Magi is lousy, and also disagreed tat magi w/o pet is 1/2
>wiz
> >> >w/o rooting. In fact, in most places other than dungeon, I mean after
> >lvl
> >> >30, magi can solo better than wiz (remember u can solo in HH at lvl 30
> >but
> >> >I cant?).
> >> >
> >> >At high lvl, ya lava spell (900dd) can be purchased easily while we
>have
> >to
> >> >quest or research for our ice comet (1200dd). Ya casting time is also
> >much
> >> >shorter I believe (bolt spell casting time is shorter than shocl
> >spells).
> >> > Most of magi buff are 'stored buff', where u can summon till u log.
>I
> >> >basically think magi is pretty cool. H/w, above lvl 34, we really
>need
> >to
> >> >find good team and right place to adventure (same for other classes).
> >> >
> >> >Btw, I dun think u need root spell coz ya EE can root for u. Ever
> >notice
> >> >how the mob get 'rooted' by ya pet when u send pet in and nuke? When
>I
> >> >team with u, I always wonder why is it so, esp when ya dd is now
>higher
> >> >than mine. I think this is how Verant compensate magi for 'rooting'.
> >> > Unlike u, when we team, u send in pet and nuke, mob wont come to u,
> >but
> >> >it
> >> >come to me the moment I nuke. I think Verant make it such tat mob
>will
> >> >treat ya pet as part of u. So when u nuke harder, ya pet can still
>take
> >> >the punishment from u. Most impt of all, when wiz oom, we are dead
>meat
> >> >99% of the time unless we are just next to zone. Magi, on the other
> >hand,
> >> >can make use of pet to die for u while u flee to zone. Of coz once ya
> >pet
> >> >died, mob will still out run u, but at least u got longer fleeing time
> >than
> >> >wiz.
> >> >
> >> >Necro pet is also cool, but their spells are mainly dot. There is no
> >tank
> >> >(nuking) mage in EQ, but I believe magi is the only tank AND mage.
> >> >
> >> >I can still solo a bit coz of jboot. U shld know I'm also bad luck
>like
> >> >u..but I guess we just have to keep trying. ;)
> >> >
> >> >Ziltus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >On Tuesday, 28 September, 1999 11:04 PM, Tommy Fong
> >> >[SMTP:tommyfong@...] wrote:
> >> > > From: "Tommy Fong" <tommyfong@...>
> >> > >
> >> > > Garren,
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm ok. Dun take it seriously. I was just tired of Magician.
> > Without
> >> >the pets, he is only
> >> > > 1/2 wiz without the rooting ability. That sux. Most high lvl
> >hunting
> >> >place are dungeon
> >> > > that pets pose a high risk. Maybe time to switch to my shaman.
> > Sigh.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:04:20 +0800, Gary Qui Hong Loong wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: "Gary Qui Hong Loong" <kanglun@...>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >FF,
> >> > > > Sorri about last nite at Lower Guk. It wasn't ur fault. It
> >my
> >> >fault.
> >> > > >Ur lvl is just 1 lvl lower to get out of the Ice Bones aggr range.
>I
> >> >should
> >> > > >have get the group to clear it instead of blaming you. Please
>accept
> >my
> >> > > >apologies.
> >> > > >
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> >> > > Best Regards,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tommy Fong
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