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Message ID: 1815
Date: Mon Aug 16 11:33:04 BST 1999
Author: Sereph
Subject: Re: Discussion on group hunting events


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LKW wrote:

> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
> Hi all. After playing EQ for a month or so, I guess it's time for us to
> ponder abit on how we can play & enjoy EQ better, in term of adventuring,
> grouping, lvling or camping for artifacts.
>

>> 3 words: Get organise first

>
> I believe the local kakis are lvling pretty fast, some even managed to
> train 2 or more mid-lvl chars by now within the short period. This is most
> obvious when we take a look in QHD, where the local kakis lvl much faster
> than the other members (without stealing kills). H/w, I think there is
> still room for improvement, in all areas. In this msg, I will only be
> focusing on group(s) hunting, so as to get the BALLS start rolling (wait,
> YY kena scared by ya wife until ya balls drop again? hehehe).
>

>> K

>
> 1. Be realistic.
> So far, all the hunting events turn out to be a corpse looting session,
> which take up more than 50% of the hunt. IMGO (in my goon opinion), I
> think everyone has to be realistic. If we are going to camp for a lvl 20
> mob, and we know that in order to reach the mob, we need to go thru'
> several lvl 15 mobs, it's definitely inefficient to bring along any lvl 18
> or below kakis coz we will then be spending most of the time protecting the
> lower lvl kakis, if not helping him/her to loot corpse. For eg, to camp
> for Dvinn, a lvl 20 mob, it will be best to bring in a team of all lvl 20
> and above, so that we can concentrate our time camping for the mob, hunt it
> down and get out of the place FAST, since all other mobs will not attack u
> as they con green to us. (NB: This point exclude those hunting event
> which we are out to wipe and rule the whole place.)
>

>> We always sway lah, either no death no loot, or a lot of death little loots.

>
> 2. Be grateful to those who help, be considerate
> Everyone on the list is paying for the EQ monthly usage, the telephone fee,
> and many hrs of sleepless night playing the game. If a group of tanks of
> enuff lvl wish to hunt certain mob but need a high lvl caster to help
> nuking the mob, I think it's only fair if the low lvl tanks show their
> appreciation by offering some token to the high lvl who help. Just like
> the Staff of Observer hunt, I think it's only fair for Garren if we paid
> him some nominal amt for his time and service. Whether he wanna accept the
> token is another story, it's the thought that counts. Friend friend is one
> thing, but this friend thingy shldnt be abused. Can anyone imagine Garren
> get msg every now and then asking him to get stuffs for his friends?
> C'mon, not tat I'm calculative but we shld learn to appreciate helps from
> others, and be considerate at times ;)
>

>>No cash, pay simi? Better don't promise money to Garren, else if we don't
have enough money to pay, all our female characters, other than Aaleku for
obvious reasons, are doom. He's a damn pimping Paladin for Tunare's sake!

>
> 3. Most people don't PLAN to fail, but they fail to PLAN
> a. See the key word? PLAN PLAN PLAN! ;) Before any event, someone pls at
> least dig out some info of the artifact, quest or the mob dropping the item
> from the net - it's easily accessible.
>

>>K, k

> b. Be puntual. Ok I know this is hard, esp when we have students, working
> class, idling personal (ops sorry Garren, hehe) etc in the local community.
> That's why I always plan events on Fri/Sat night, where most pple are free
> and dun have to worry abt working the next day. Getting the relevant lvl
> players to participate in the event is also impt, so that no time is waste
> to fetch other pple. If u wanan participate in the event, at least arrange
> to meet those who know the assembly venue to bring u there, IN ADVANCED.
> Dun wait till last mintue than msg all say "I'm at xxx, can someone come
> to fetch me blah blah blah". If my UO members from all over the world can
> meet at certain time (some even wake up at 4am for guild meeting), I see no
> reason the local kakis cant make an effort to achieve it ;)
>

>> Well, the last Rathetear hunt, we were quite puntual, if not for the
freaking crash of NK. Generally, we are quite Punctual for day 1 of most hunt.
Day 2 is a different affair altogether.

>
> c. Be prepared. Nothing is more anoying than to see the following
> situation.
> A : Ah, everyone is so puntual today, let ROCK!
> B, C, D, E : Yeah yeah, let rock! WOWOWOWO!
> F : Sorry guys, no more food, drink and reagents, can someone spare me
> some, summon for me, OR gate me back to town purchasing, OR teleport to
> town and buy for me?
> "NAH!" *A, B, C, D, E all point their middle fingers to F's nose, mouse,
> earholes, assxxxx*
>
>

>>Don't worry, nothing like this has ever happen, and WON'T *flashes parang*

> 4.Patient, Effective, Efficient
> - Patient. If we set our mind to hunt Dvinn, then be patient to wait for
> it to spawn. Dun suga suga show off and hunt other mobs with one swing or
> one nuke. Yeah no doubt it's very facinating to show those newbies how
> powerful you are, but hey, why are you here in the first place? And when
> the mob spawn, you are either resting or OOM.

>>Think we hot blooded youngsters as patient as you old mans ah? We bored, find
something to do liao, heck care about you ;)

>
> - Efficient. At places which is heavily camped, casting the 1st spell on
> the mob may mean you get it or not. Eg, when I camp in Ziltus Hill (hehe),
> group of lvl 20 casters wanna fight kill with me. When the trainer spawn,
> I'm always the 1st one to hit it with a spell that hurt it more than 50%,
> and the other casters r jus helping me to finish up the job. Do some
> timing (eg aviak guards take 6-7 min to spawn, pickclaw 13 min, trainer 16
> min etc), manage your time so that you can get fully med and rest b4 the
> spawn. You can chit chat and sing song, but when the spawn is near, you
> better stay alert and watch out for it.
>

>>To prevent this from happening, we should always have a non-meditating class
aka monks, bards, rogues and warriors during a camp to look for spawn.

> - Effective. Sometime nuking with the most damaging spell is not always a
> sure-win situation. Eg, when a lvl 40 enchanter help her friend to get
> kills in Ziltus Hill, I think she is casting the most powerful nuking spell
> she has. H/w, I only using the 3rd most powerful spell I got to get all
> the kills. Wonder why? COZ...my 3rd most powerful spell, no doubt not as
> powerful as the lvl 40 enchanter, but it cast FASTER and hurt the train for
> more than 50% HP. So when the enchanter's spell hit the mob, she is just
> helping me to wipe the floor. Simple as it is ;) Nuking with the most
> powerful spell is not always the one who stand up with a wining smile - we
> have to "eat brain" sometimes, not "eat grass" ;)
>
>

>> Tell you once, going to tell you again. Enchanter can't nuke for shit! All
of our spells are all or nothing kind like force shock. Also, damage ganna sai.

> 5. Get the RIGHT team
> Get the right party for the hunt. For train-proned places like dungeons,
> dimiss the pet. For places with fast random spawns, get some tanks and at
> least a healer. For places where firepower mean sure-win (eg double or
> solo aviak guards), get some bombers with u. For places of unknown and
> danger, get a balance group. Having good team work is a good starting step
> to a successful hunting trip, but getting the wrong party combo may mean
> you r stepping on the wrong path. Eg when there is so many players crowded
> in the CB tower, one lvl 29 wiz will work better than a group of 3 lvl 30
> warriors. On the other hand, in Runnyeye, a lvl 29 paladin can last longer
> than a group of 3 lvl 30 wiz. See the light? ;)
>

>> Agree, but, the problem with us right now is that we are freaking
disorganise. Most of the times, we have rojak groups, with huge level
difference, due to lack of participation of other kakis.

>
> I'm not the best player around, but merely rising some points which I think
> we have to ponder them in depth. No doubt it's sometime fun to have those
> "U DIE I DIE" kinda hunting, but in the long run, we shld work out
> something better and more enjoyable ;)
>

>> Prepare your group gate at all times loh, tanks gonna die, GG first, think
later.

>
> Just my 2c.
>

>> Only 2 cents? So cheapskate? at least give S$2 lah

>
> Ziltus Planeswalker
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