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From: LKW <
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To: '
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Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:18 PM
Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Guild
>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>1. What kinda guild is this gonna be? A friend-friend kinda guild (like
>our curren QHD and when it grows, problematic members may pop up), a
>role-playing guild with certain policy and discipline (ie insist to follow
>the path of good and honor, so that when pple look at our abbrev, they know
>we are the good guys, this type of guild will require some formal
>organisation structure).
// I feel a rping guild would be best, since I HATE trolls and ogres (They
smell bad and tend to take up too much of the dungeon corridors spaces.
Of course we would be a goody two shoes guild since all the ppl playing are
good chars
>2. Will this guild going to be a Singaporean only, Asians only or
>international guild? If we were to open to other nations players, how can
>we enforce discipline?
//Make it mostly Singaporeans, MOSTLY. Maybe 5-10% foreigners such as very
close and trustworthy friends or those who live up to their names.
>3. Wylven's feeling, this is one of my most concern part - how would he
>feel when we leave guild and form our own? Will he think "wah, last time
>newbie I help u guys, u guys also find kakis to team in the guild, which in
>turn helps alot in lvling, now all feather grow up liao, wanna fly away
>ah?"? If we were to leave QHD and form a new guild, we must be very
>careful to handle this part since most of us, if not all, still respect him
>as a good and honorable friend.
//Yeah this would prolly be the most difficult part since we all joined QHD
while we were quite new and as I said, Wylven is a very nice guy, so we
would definately would not want to offend him.
>4. Do we consider forming alliance with QHD? In UO, one of my pioneer
>members leave us and form his guild. H/w we never take it to heart and in
>the end we form a very close alliance - whenever TAA need help, tDw will be
>ard, vice versa. Until now, they are still our closest allies.
//As of such, we should help the members of QHD as much as our own guild
members if we have an alliance with them.
>5. How abt those players who join QHD due to our recommendation. Players
>like Ling, Flyingfox, Deadflower, Satoru, Woodbridge etc will most probably
>leave QHD and join us if I leave also. Same for other local kakis who have
>friends who will follow them to the new guild if we quit from QHD. This
>will further increase the number of players leaving QHD, at least 1/3 of
>the guild, I guess. How are we going to explain to Wylven? I'm worry he
>feel very dishearted with so many members leaving at one time, and
>indirectly, again, it reflect something wrong with his guild and tat's why
>we are leaving to form our own guild. We must be very cautious handling
>this matter.
//We should tell him the main reason of leaving is because we want to form
our own local guild and not in any way his fault on handling guild issues.
About the 1/3 of guild leaving, I think its not a problem. I see many new
members everyday being recruited in QHD. Might be other character's
alternates, but from the guildsays I saw, I think not.
>6. How are we going to maintain members quality and guild reputation? I
>think to avoid misunderstanding in future (most importantly, not to end up
>like wat is happening in QHD now), all new members shld be briefed abt our
>guild policy and direction, what can or cannot be done when they are one of
>us. This is something I did when I accept my UO guild membership. My UO
>guild has a membership application form in our guild site to fill up some
>queries to enable us better understand the candidate and if he/she is
>accepted, I will send the person a standard letter stating the general
>policy of the guild. For those which I find them not suitable to join us
>(eg those players who enjoy pking, looting), I will also reply them to let
>them know why they are not accepted and they will still be considered IF
>they promise to follow our discipline.
//I feel the guild should have a something like a council that decides if a
member joins. It might take anywhere from a day to a week to recruit
someone, but this would mean better quality members.(Doing a quest would be
cool too) As for guild policy, what if the member reads, then joins and
commits offences. Yes, we might sack him but he might have already damaged
our guild's reputation. I think the best way is to only recruit those we
know personally. On this issue, I feel we should only recruit outsiders
(Foreigners and other NEW members) that are above level 16. Although it is
unfair to those of lower levels, I feel this is the bare minimum that a
player should attain before joining a guild. Several reasons for it. 1. If
we let everyone join, then the guild might become kuching kurah guild. 2.
Guild reputation is very important. What if he doesn't know anything, and
keep spamming in the whole zone " Did anyone see my corpse? Can someone help
me?" 20 times (I saw it happen before). 3. Everyone WAS a newbie once, but
not ALL newbies ask lame questions like how to get this, how to get that. So
this would of course be very irritating to other members of the guild if he
repeats this over guildsay. 4. If we recruit someone of very low level, 1-4
he might just get recruited, go around spoiling our guild reputation and
just delete off his character. Of course the damage is already done..
Leshrec Kalesk'Thor High Elven Wizard of the Seventh Circle