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Message ID: 1342
Date: Fri Jul 23 23:50:17 BST 1999
Author: Entreri
Subject: Re: Guild
>From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>know
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:18 PM
>Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Guild
>
>
>>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
>
>>1. What kinda guild is this gonna be? A friend-friend kinda guild (like
>>our curren QHD and when it grows, problematic members may pop up), a
>>role-playing guild with certain policy and discipline (ie insist to follow
>>the path of good and honor, so that when pple look at our abbrev, they
>>we are the good guys, this type of guild will require some formalin
>>organisation structure).
>
>
>// I feel a rping guild would be best, since I HATE trolls and ogres (They
>smell bad and tend to take up too much of the dungeon corridors spaces.
>Of course we would be a goody two shoes guild since all the ppl playing are
>good chars
>
>
>>2. Will this guild going to be a Singaporean only, Asians only or
>>international guild? If we were to open to other nations players, how can
>>we enforce discipline?
>
>
>//Make it mostly Singaporeans, MOSTLY. Maybe 5-10% foreigners such as very
>close and trustworthy friends or those who live up to their names.
>
>
>
>>3. Wylven's feeling, this is one of my most concern part - how would he
>>feel when we leave guild and form our own? Will he think "wah, last time
>>newbie I help u guys, u guys also find kakis to team in the guild, which
>>turn helps alot in lvling, now all feather grow up liao, wanna fly awayhim
>>ah?"? If we were to leave QHD and form a new guild, we must be very
>>careful to handle this part since most of us, if not all, still respect
>>as a good and honorable friend.be
>
>
>//Yeah this would prolly be the most difficult part since we all joined QHD
>while we were quite new and as I said, Wylven is a very nice guy, so we
>would definately would not want to offend him.
>
>
>
>>4. Do we consider forming alliance with QHD? In UO, one of my pioneer
>>members leave us and form his guild. H/w we never take it to heart and in
>>the end we form a very close alliance - whenever TAA need help, tDw will
>>ard, vice versa. Until now, they are still our closest allies.probably
>
>
>//As of such, we should help the members of QHD as much as our own guild
>members if we have an alliance with them.
>
>
>
>>5. How abt those players who join QHD due to our recommendation. Players
>>like Ling, Flyingfox, Deadflower, Satoru, Woodbridge etc will most
>>leave QHD and join us if I leave also. Same for other local kakis whohave
>>friends who will follow them to the new guild if we quit from QHD. Thisof
>>will further increase the number of players leaving QHD, at least 1/3 of
>>the guild, I guess. How are we going to explain to Wylven? I'm worry he
>>feel very dishearted with so many members leaving at one time, and
>>indirectly, again, it reflect something wrong with his guild and tat's why
>>we are leaving to form our own guild. We must be very cautious handling
>>this matter.
>
>
>//We should tell him the main reason of leaving is because we want to form
>our own local guild and not in any way his fault on handling guild issues.
>About the 1/3 of guild leaving, I think its not a problem. I see many new
>members everyday being recruited in QHD. Might be other character's
>alternates, but from the guildsays I saw, I think not.
>
>
>
>>6. How are we going to maintain members quality and guild reputation? I
>>think to avoid misunderstanding in future (most importantly, not to end up
>>like wat is happening in QHD now), all new members shld be briefed abt our
>>guild policy and direction, what can or cannot be done when they are one
>>us. This is something I did when I accept my UO guild membership. My UOhelp
>>guild has a membership application form in our guild site to fill up some
>>queries to enable us better understand the candidate and if he/she is
>>accepted, I will send the person a standard letter stating the general
>>policy of the guild. For those which I find them not suitable to join us
>>(eg those players who enjoy pking, looting), I will also reply them to let
>>them know why they are not accepted and they will still be considered IF
>>they promise to follow our discipline.
>
>
>//I feel the guild should have a something like a council that decides if a
>member joins. It might take anywhere from a day to a week to recruit
>someone, but this would mean better quality members.(Doing a quest would be
>cool too) As for guild policy, what if the member reads, then joins and
>commits offences. Yes, we might sack him but he might have already damaged
>our guild's reputation. I think the best way is to only recruit those we
>know personally. On this issue, I feel we should only recruit outsiders
>(Foreigners and other NEW members) that are above level 16. Although it is
>unfair to those of lower levels, I feel this is the bare minimum that a
>player should attain before joining a guild. Several reasons for it. 1. If
>we let everyone join, then the guild might become kuching kurah guild. 2.
>Guild reputation is very important. What if he doesn't know anything, and
>keep spamming in the whole zone " Did anyone see my corpse? Can someone
>me?" 20 times (I saw it happen before). 3. Everyone WAS a newbie once, butSo
>not ALL newbies ask lame questions like how to get this, how to get that.
>this would of course be very irritating to other members of the guild if he
>repeats this over guildsay. 4. If we recruit someone of very low level, 1-4
>he might just get recruited, go around spoiling our guild reputation and
>just delete off his character. Of course the damage is already done..
>
>Leshrec Kalesk'Thor High Elven Wizard of the Seventh Circle
>
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