heheh aye. Well if this goes on, we really need to think about starting the
guild again..
----- Original Message -----
From: LKW <leekw13@...>
To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 19:30
Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Guild Stealer - Voyesbian
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
> I dun think u can get banned for stealing kills personally, but I'm
unhappy
> to see own guild members doing it so obvious with a guild abbrev on his
> head.
>
> I agreed with Leshrec tat maybe that Lionessa bitch know GM, but if I got
> banned for such thing (esp kena accused), this game doesnt worth me
staying
> on. But good news tat GMs are aware that wiz are always finger-pointed
for
> stealing. It's unavoidable for wiz to nuke much faster than other races,
> but again nuking is different from stealing.
>
> I thank Garren for his support. As a matter of fact, Sereph and I have
> launched a big complaint to Wylven. Wylven is fully awared of it now, and
> Voy has admitted his mistake on stealing from his guild mates. But
frankly
> speaking, my bigger concern is when he steal kills with our guild abbrev
on
> his head. I'm confident that I won't lose kill to Voy, just that my whole
> group is meleeing the mob that day so I dun see the need to waste mana and
> Voy come in to steal. I remember when I first meet Fiona, a lvl 12 wiz
> from Higher Order of Arcane and she help me to bind and retrieve my
corpse,
> I really think very high of her guild. But nowadays I see Higher Order Of
> Arcane members stealing kills everywhere, I think they kinda sux. I'm not
> sure if u guys agree with me, but if Wylven only restricted Voy from
> stealing on others but not restricted Voy for been a 'well-reputatable'
> stealer, I think I will quit from the guild. Knn my UO guild is so
> well-known in Baja shard for been so honorable, my UO kakis will beat me
up
> if they knew I join a stealer guild (which is as bad as looter/pking guild
> in UO).
>
> From what I see, Wylven didnt clarify if he restricted Voy from plain
> stealing or just stealing from members. Coz according to 'spy', Voy is
> stealing again this afternoon in HH. Let see what our boss said b4 I make
> any decision.
>
> Ziltus, High Elf Wizard of the Sixth Circle
>
> p/s: Kakis like Garren shld know how sickening when his BCC is kena
stolen,
> hehe.
>
> On Sunday, 11 July, 1999 6:26 PM, Leshrec [SMTP:leshrec@...]
> wrote:
> > From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
> >
> > Hmm I don't understand why kill stealing will make a person kenna
banned.
> > Well, its fustrating to players, yes but its in no way illegal. As for
> > harrassment, if you find someone steal killing from you, just go to
> another
> > spot. If that guy follows you EVERWHERE and steals ALL your kills then
> thats
> > harrasment. Prolly that Lionessa knew the GM or something otherwise I
> don't
> > think GMs care much about this issue..
> > As of such, I don't think steal killing is right, but was just wondering
> > about the ban stuff..
> > btw, I'm not passing through Oasis so soon, maybe in a week or two,
after
> I
> > manage to get my black robe )
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > To: '* Singapore EQ Mailing List' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 5:51 PM
> > Subject: [sg-everquest] Guild Stealer - Voyesbian
> >
> >
> > >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >
> > >Just to inform all kakis that we have a stealer from the guild, who
even
> > >steal from own guild mates.
> > >
> > >For those who went for the guild bash in Befallen last week, some may
> > >remember a lvl 9 DE wiz who went to lvl 3 of Bafallen at lvl 9. Of
coz,
> he
> > >kena killed many times and Garren, Wylven and I were the last 3 who
> stayed
> > >with him to get most of his corpses. At the end he still claimed he
> lost
> > >few pp, dvinn dagger etc which Wylven and Garren were kind enough to
> pass
> > >some of their loot to him. So that was my 1st encounter with this DE
> wiz
> > >name Voyesbian.
> > >
> > >Over the weekend, he was hunting at HH solo, and attacked some of our
> > >preys. But he is too weak to steal from our group of lvl 18-20, and he
> > >mentioned he just wanna hit once to gain faction. We have no objection
> > >over this and we also try not to attack his prey. He gain from lvl 9
to
> > >lvl 13 within the weekend, which is pretty fast.
> > >
> > >H/w, last night while hunting at HH, I noticed he started to steal from
> our
> > >group. He no longer nuke once or twice but nuke full force to get the
> > >kill. FYI he is WAITING for the tanks in the group to hurt mob b4 he
> start
> > >to nuke. I ask him why is he doing such thing to his own guildmate and
> he
> > >said he just need 1-3 more kills b4 he log. The true fact is tat he is
> > >actually stay longer than that. He is stealing at HH, and he steal
from
> > >from another groups as well. He steal so ofen that one players from
the
> > >other guild, Lionessa, started to make noise.
> > >
> > >I started to observe how this Voy hunt and at one time I was even
> accused
> > >by Lionessa for stealing her kill, while it's actually Voy who did it
> (I'm
> > >just watching with OOM!). I'm kinda pissed to get such accuse.
Shortly
> > >Lionessa page for a GM, and Voy log immediatelywhen GM Glim arrvived
> > >(guilty I guess).
> > >
> > >When GM Glim arrive, I explained to him, and he understand the
situation
> > >which wiz are always accused of stealing kills. He also understand
it's
> > >Voy who did the stealing and I'm innocent. GM Glim then went off
> shortly.
> > >
> > >Later part of the hunt, this Lionessa come over and drop comments
saying
> > >she have make few stealers banned by GM since she played EQ for 4 mths.
> > > WTF? My problem if she kill too slow? I wanna stressed again that
the
> > >casters in my groups NEVER steal kill, in the sense that we never wait
> for
> > >other teams to hurt the mobs for 30-40% HP b4 we start to nuke.
Members
> > >like Ling, Flyingfox, Satoru and myself hunt often but I'm firm to say
> we
> > >gain xp with our hard work. When there are groups of lvl 20s steal
from
> > >us, we hardly make any noise but to hunt elsewhere, so I can't
> understand
> > >why cry babies like Lionessa make so much noise. Anyway later Demitry
> > >suggest to all group members to petition for players harrassment (since
> her
> > >words sounded SO threatening, hehe), and well, no GM come, haha.
> > >
> > >This is just a note to all local kakis to watch out for this member
> > >Voyesbian. Not that we are not helpful but I caution all to think
twice
> > >before helping this kinda players.
> > >
> > >Our boss Wylven (who is unaware of this incident) made Voyesbian a
guild
> > >officer last weekend, and the thought of sharing an officer post with
> such
> > >player make me sick.
> > >
> > >Ziltus.
> > >
> > >p/s: U guys noticed we got more wiz in guild nowadays? After me, Les,
> Sat
> > >(high elf) and Ling (erudite), the rest of the new wiz are all from DE.
> > > Hehe.
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