I dun think u can get banned for stealing kills personally, but I'm unhappy
to see own guild members doing it so obvious with a guild abbrev on his
head.
I agreed with Leshrec tat maybe that Lionessa bitch know GM, but if I got
banned for such thing (esp kena accused), this game doesnt worth me staying
on. But good news tat GMs are aware that wiz are always finger-pointed for
stealing. It's unavoidable for wiz to nuke much faster than other races,
but again nuking is different from stealing.
I thank Garren for his support. As a matter of fact, Sereph and I have
launched a big complaint to Wylven. Wylven is fully awared of it now, and
Voy has admitted his mistake on stealing from his guild mates. But frankly
speaking, my bigger concern is when he steal kills with our guild abbrev on
his head. I'm confident that I won't lose kill to Voy, just that my whole
group is meleeing the mob that day so I dun see the need to waste mana and
Voy come in to steal. I remember when I first meet Fiona, a lvl 12 wiz
from Higher Order of Arcane and she help me to bind and retrieve my corpse,
I really think very high of her guild. But nowadays I see Higher Order Of
Arcane members stealing kills everywhere, I think they kinda sux. I'm not
sure if u guys agree with me, but if Wylven only restricted Voy from
stealing on others but not restricted Voy for been a 'well-reputatable'
stealer, I think I will quit from the guild. Knn my UO guild is so
well-known in Baja shard for been so honorable, my UO kakis will beat me up
if they knew I join a stealer guild (which is as bad as looter/pking guild
in UO).
From what I see, Wylven didnt clarify if he restricted Voy from plain
stealing or just stealing from members. Coz according to 'spy', Voy is
stealing again this afternoon in HH. Let see what our boss said b4 I make
any decision.
Ziltus, High Elf Wizard of the Sixth Circle
p/s: Kakis like Garren shld know how sickening when his BCC is kena stolen,
hehe.
On Sunday, 11 July, 1999 6:26 PM, Leshrec [SMTP:
leshrec@...]
wrote:
> From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
>
> Hmm I don't understand why kill stealing will make a person kenna banned.
> Well, its fustrating to players, yes but its in no way illegal. As for
> harrassment, if you find someone steal killing from you, just go to
another
> spot. If that guy follows you EVERWHERE and steals ALL your kills then
thats
> harrasment. Prolly that Lionessa knew the GM or something otherwise I
don't
> think GMs care much about this issue..
> As of such, I don't think steal killing is right, but was just wondering
> about the ban stuff..
> btw, I'm not passing through Oasis so soon, maybe in a week or two, after
I
> manage to get my black robe )
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> To: '* Singapore EQ Mailing List' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 5:51 PM
> Subject: [sg-everquest] Guild Stealer - Voyesbian
>
>
> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> >Just to inform all kakis that we have a stealer from the guild, who even
> >steal from own guild mates.
> >
> >For those who went for the guild bash in Befallen last week, some may
> >remember a lvl 9 DE wiz who went to lvl 3 of Bafallen at lvl 9. Of coz,
he
> >kena killed many times and Garren, Wylven and I were the last 3 who
stayed
> >with him to get most of his corpses. At the end he still claimed he
lost
> >few pp, dvinn dagger etc which Wylven and Garren were kind enough to
pass
> >some of their loot to him. So that was my 1st encounter with this DE
wiz
> >name Voyesbian.
> >
> >Over the weekend, he was hunting at HH solo, and attacked some of our
> >preys. But he is too weak to steal from our group of lvl 18-20, and he
> >mentioned he just wanna hit once to gain faction. We have no objection
> >over this and we also try not to attack his prey. He gain from lvl 9 to
> >lvl 13 within the weekend, which is pretty fast.
> >
> >H/w, last night while hunting at HH, I noticed he started to steal from
our
> >group. He no longer nuke once or twice but nuke full force to get the
> >kill. FYI he is WAITING for the tanks in the group to hurt mob b4 he
start
> >to nuke. I ask him why is he doing such thing to his own guildmate and
he
> >said he just need 1-3 more kills b4 he log. The true fact is tat he is
> >actually stay longer than that. He is stealing at HH, and he steal from
> >from another groups as well. He steal so ofen that one players from the
> >other guild, Lionessa, started to make noise.
> >
> >I started to observe how this Voy hunt and at one time I was even
accused
> >by Lionessa for stealing her kill, while it's actually Voy who did it
(I'm
> >just watching with OOM!). I'm kinda pissed to get such accuse. Shortly
> >Lionessa page for a GM, and Voy log immediatelywhen GM Glim arrvived
> >(guilty I guess).
> >
> >When GM Glim arrive, I explained to him, and he understand the situation
> >which wiz are always accused of stealing kills. He also understand it's
> >Voy who did the stealing and I'm innocent. GM Glim then went off
shortly.
> >
> >Later part of the hunt, this Lionessa come over and drop comments saying
> >she have make few stealers banned by GM since she played EQ for 4 mths.
> > WTF? My problem if she kill too slow? I wanna stressed again that the
> >casters in my groups NEVER steal kill, in the sense that we never wait
for
> >other teams to hurt the mobs for 30-40% HP b4 we start to nuke. Members
> >like Ling, Flyingfox, Satoru and myself hunt often but I'm firm to say
we
> >gain xp with our hard work. When there are groups of lvl 20s steal from
> >us, we hardly make any noise but to hunt elsewhere, so I can't
understand
> >why cry babies like Lionessa make so much noise. Anyway later Demitry
> >suggest to all group members to petition for players harrassment (since
her
> >words sounded SO threatening, hehe), and well, no GM come, haha.
> >
> >This is just a note to all local kakis to watch out for this member
> >Voyesbian. Not that we are not helpful but I caution all to think twice
> >before helping this kinda players.
> >
> >Our boss Wylven (who is unaware of this incident) made Voyesbian a guild
> >officer last weekend, and the thought of sharing an officer post with
such
> >player make me sick.
> >
> >Ziltus.
> >
> >p/s: U guys noticed we got more wiz in guild nowadays? After me, Les,
Sat
> >(high elf) and Ling (erudite), the rest of the new wiz are all from DE.
> > Hehe.
> >
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