An erudite wizard with high intelligence would die like flies when the enemy
hits him/her.
Dwaven Clerics already has very good states except for intelligence/charisma.
Where you throw it won't effect it much, but intelligence must be dumped into.
For clerics, dwarf has the best overall stats so they are a good choice.
Since a cleric aim is to eventually use plate mail, the elves/erudite aren't a
good choice.
Gnome having low wisdom is also not recommanded.
Other than lousy intelligence, halfling are okay clerics.
Humans as usual are not a bad choice.
LKW wrote:
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
> Wah, u got a point there, hehe.
>
> Anyone ever try creaing an erudite wiz with all bonus point throw to INT?
> The thought sound cool, but dunno what problem this char will encounter in
> long run.
>
> How abt a dwarf cleric with equally high STR, STA and WIS or all throw to
> WIS? Talk abt cleric, which race, in ya opinion, make the easiest cleric
> (ie most powerful)?
>
> Hope u guys dun mind I rise so many questions, coz I enjoy asking and
> finding new info abt all char in EQ :)
>
> On Monday, June 14, 1999 6:03 PM, Sereph [SMTP:garford@...]
> wrote:
> > That will still make a SK do too much damage for his/her level.
> >
> > Imagine this. A level 1 TSK walks up to DVinn, use harm touch on him,
> when run
> > away. Other players later manage to kill DVinn, but all the XP went to
> the TSK,
> > making up level up a lot of levels. So, it's very hard to balance the
> ability
> >
> > LKW wrote:
> >
> > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >
> > > Wah liao, EQ staff really &*%$$@! How can they be so unfair (as
> compared
> > > to Paladin which never fail to lay hand)? They shld make it that it
> CANNOT
> > > be resisted yet it only reduce the CURRENT HP of the victim. Eg, 1st
> TSK
> > > reduce monster HP life (100%) by half, and 2nd TSK can only reduce it
> by
> > > half of current 50% HP, ie 25%, which left the monster with 25% HP. ;(
> > >
> > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 5:42 PM, Sereph [SMTP:garford@...]
> > > wrote:
> > > > At first, Harm Touch cannot be resisted and does damage = 1/2 of the
> > > total HP a
> > > > target has. But then, people abuse it.
> > > >
> > > > With 2 SK, anything could be killed without any problem.
> > > >
> > > > The problem with most sites on the net is that info was all taken
> from
> > > the beta
> > > > and was never changed. (One example, many site still list that
> Paladin
> > > can't
> > > > use a bow)
> > > >
> > > > LKW wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > >
> > > > > No need to shake head lah, only discussion mah. ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Harm touch can be resisted? Doh, I read from the net that it's
> > > something
> > > > > which cannot be resisted, just like Paladin's lay hand. No?
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, learn alot from ya msg, thou kinda different from what I
> read
> > > from
> > > > > the net. Nevertheless it's useful for all to consider when making
> a
> > > new
> > > > > char.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mondain.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 5:25 PM, Sereph
> [SMTP:garford@...]
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > *shakes head*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The grass will always appear greener on the other side unless
> you've
> > > been
> > > > > there
> > > > > > before. so far, with my experience of EQ since the 3rd beta, I
> have
> > > mess
> > > > > around
> > > > > > with Shadow Knights, Paladins, Enchanters, Necros, Shamans and
> > > Magicians.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > other classes I have not much experiences with so I won't
> comment.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem with Shadow knight is this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At first glance, harm touch appears to be very powerful, dealing
> 10 X
> > > > > level + 1
> > > > > > damage, but what many people don't know is that:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Harm Touch is counted as an alteration spell. IOWs, it can be
> > > > > resisted.
> > > > > > 2. Being alteration in nature, part of its damage can be
> resisted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On average, with a level 13 TSK, I constantly do around 70-80
> damage,
> > > not
> > > > > the
> > > > > > full 131 I expect it to do and miss twice ever 10 times I tyr.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unless you choose Dark Elf or Humans as a SK, you would not be
> able
> > > to
> > > > > cast
> > > > > > spells the level you get them, as Ogres and Trolls have an aweful
> > > > > intelligence
> > > > > > score, which bring about another problem, Troll/Orge Shadow
> Knight
> > > gains
> > > > > skills
> > > > > > at a painful pace. They often find themselves unable to reach the
> > > skill
> > > > > cap of
> > > > > > their level.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On regenaration, at low levels, it is a fantastic thing, but at
> high
> > > > > level,
> > > > > > nothing functions better than a real healing spell.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At level 40, an average TSK is expected to have around 1200 hp
> and
> > > would
> > > > > expect
> > > > > > to take any where from 200-800 hp worth of damage per battle.
> Even
> > > with
> > > > > > regenaration, it is still take around 10-20mins to regenerate the
> > > amount.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thus, the TSK is not really able to solo at high levels. Level
> 1-15
> > > is
> > > > > easy,
> > > > > > but after this range, due to slow level advancement and an
> unreliable
> > > way
> > > > > of
> > > > > > healing, they can't solo well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The advantage TSK have over other hybrid warrior classes is that
> they
> > > can
> > > > > still
> > > > > > bash when using 2 handed slashing weapons.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Troll Shamans are worse off. Being a priest class, they will
> never
> > > gain
> > > > > > additional attack, and damage they deal is capped. At level 16,
> you
> > > reach
> > > > > your
> > > > > > melee damage cap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In addition Shamans don't really have fantastic direct damage
> spells
> > > nor
> > > > > good
> > > > > > healing ability so soloing past 16 is hard/near impossible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Troll Warriors fair slightly better than TSK as they hit harder,
> > > faster
> > > > > and has
> > > > > > more HP, but they still need reliable backup to reach high
> levels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Monks I agree is one of the best class to solo with. The various
> > > special
> > > > > > attacks do a lot of damage and mend, at high level almost never
> fail.
> > > > > Healing
> > > > > > 1/4 of your HP every 6 minutes is damn useful.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Priest class can never solo well unless they go to areas where
> their
> > > > > wards
> > > > > > spell can be use (Befallen for Clerics, Elemental Planes for
> Druids)
> > > else
> > > > > they
> > > > > > fare very badly against normal enermies
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For Wizards, the only way they solo is Root -> Damage spells,
> damage
> > > > > > spells.......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If root runs out, they're toast, and most would dash towards the
> > > entrance
> > > > > > bringing trains....... A very common sight.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMO, these class can solo pretty well from mid to high levels.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Monks
> > > > > > Necros (Provided that nessesary spells could be researched)
> > > > > > Magicians (Same as Necro)
> > > > > > Enchanters (Only after Tashani, Beguile and Clam)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LKW wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is no doubt a TSK can solo best in EQ. They have the
> harm
> > > spells
> > > > > > > which is as good as Paladin's healing ability (no saving throw
> or
> > > > > failure),
> > > > > > > yet they have the ability of regenerating HP ability. I made a
> > > troll
> > > > > > > shaman in Innoruuk for testing, at lvl 1 my first victim is a
> > > monster
> > > > > which
> > > > > > > is yellow to me. And within the first 10 min I play, I gain a
> lvl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Btw, all classes always complain that they are weaker than
> other
> > > > > classes,
> > > > > > > seem to be a norm, hehe. I even read from the net how a lvl
> 40+
> > > > > warrior
> > > > > > > complained abt his char as compare to a shadowknight who is few
> lvl
> > > > > below
> > > > > > > him - coz in term of soloing, this warrior can't handle big
> monster
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > that shadowknight.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > EQSS also have an article abt soloing - and they rank troll
> > > anything as
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > easiest soloing char, esp TSK, followed by wiz, shaman, dwarf
> cl
> > > eric
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > monk. One thing abt monk, at lvl 35+ they will jump to 2nd in
> the
> > > > > list, ie
> > > > > > > the next best soloing class after Troll something, due to the
> new
> > > kick
> > > > > ass
> > > > > > > skills they achieve at higher level.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mondain
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 1:50 PM, Sereph
> > > [SMTP:garford@...]
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Troll Shadow Knights are surpose to be good??? Come on, they
> > > level up
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > snail place (25% pentalty for being a hybrid class,
> additional
> > > 50%
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > being a
> > > > > > > > troll I think) and Harm touch is useless as it can be
> resisted.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's why you hear a lot of SK complaning on why they are
> weaker
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > > Paladins.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > LKW wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yep, no more agnostic for necro. This is becoz too many
> pple
> > > wanna
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > goodies from TSK or Necro but yet wanna enjoy good faction
> > > after
> > > > > > > killing
> > > > > > > > > hundreds of orcs by selecting agnostic (coz it help in
> > > improving ya
> > > > > > > > > faction). Afterall evil classes are made more powerful to
> > > > > compensate
> > > > > > > their
> > > > > > > > > faction hit.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Dark Elf alone shld be quite easy to improve faction -
> Kenven
> > > once
> > > > > did
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > b4 as a DE warrior, by killing many orcs and he can enter
> > > Freeport
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > lvl 9
> > > > > > > > > I think (but some npc merchants at commonlands still refuse
> to
> > > do
> > > > > biz
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > him). But DEN is more evil, so u will need more time to
> gain
> > > good
> > > > > > > faction.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why not we create a Dark Elves/Trolls evil team, forget abt
> the
> > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > faction thingy and bash the good races city, hehe. I read
> some
> > > > > high
> > > > > > > lvl
> > > > > > > > > dark elf wizards/shadow knights actually attack Freeport
> guards
> > > in
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > servers (no need to find monsters to hunt, lol), sound
> kewl!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Btw, Leshrec also got a DEN in Prexus server.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mondain
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Monday, June 14, 1999 9:07 AM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > > > > > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > ok... im not sure if its true... ive read up article from
> > > either
> > > > > > > Everlore
> > > > > > > > > or EQVault... or EQ Stratics... in one of the necro
> guides...
> > > it
> > > > > > > mentioned
> > > > > > > > > no able to choose agnostic fer Dark Elves anymore... wonder
> if
> > > its
> > > > > > > true...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fred aka SilverHand.
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Entreri
> > > > > > > > > > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 9:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To improve faction,there are 2 ways
> > > > > > > > > > 1.If possible,choose agnostic when choosing ya race...
> > > > > > > > > > 2.kill as many orcs as possible
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Entreri
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Email: drizzt@...
> > > > > > > > > > ICQ UIN: 2326860
> > > > > > > > > > Previewer, Singularity Gaming Network
> > > > > > > > > > http://www.sg-gaming.net
> > > > > > > > > > Your Single Source of Everything Gaming
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > .plan at
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > http://www.wplan.com/cgibin/directplan.cgi?name=Entreri&viewpass=
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > > <sccheng@...>
> > > > > > > > > > To: SG-Everquest Mailing List
> <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > > > > > > > Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 8:30 AM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [sg-everquest] Something...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > it seems that quite abit had happened over the pass
> > > weekend
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > wasnt around... the party got formed... n stuff like
> that... n
> > > ive
> > > > > > > readup
> > > > > > > > > abit on the few websites over the weekend... i think in
> > > general...
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > necromancer has spells that spread over a pretty wide
> range...
> > > from
> > > > > > > > > summoning... to direct damage... to healing... that no one
> > > > > spellcasting
> > > > > > > > > class can provide... however this is with the drawback of
> > > > > faction....
> > > > > > > so i
> > > > > > > > > guess my first char in EQ will most likely be a
> Necromancer...
> > > but
> > > > > i
> > > > > > > havent
> > > > > > > > > decide to make a Erudite or Dark Elf Necro ... most likely
> Dark
> > > > > Elf...
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > i think i need to do more research on faction n stuff like
> > > that....
> > > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > > > some of u guys can help me out here... esp Leshrec...
> > > > > > > > > > 1. is it that bad that a Dark Elf Necro is KOS in
> other
> > > > > > > towns/cities?
> > > > > > > > > > 2. how difficult is to be able to better the faction
> so
> > > that
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > enter those cities without KOS? n how can u do it?
> > > > > > > > > > 3. what about Eruite Necro?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Pls advice :) although i havent got my EQ here yet...
> but
> > > i
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > like to be fully prepared fer it b4 it comes... :)
> hopefully
> > > within
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > week... otherwise next... as i can only play during the
> > > weekend...
> > > > > > > BTW...
> > > > > > > > > count me in... in ya guild.... i should be in the same
> server
> > > as u
> > > > > > > guys...
> > > > > > > > > but i guess i will be progressing slowly... most likely i
> will
> > > be
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > > > SilverHand. :)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Also, not sure about Trade Skills... anyone has any
> > > advice
> > > > > fer
> > > > > > > > > Necros? Also, u think it will be better to have 1 trade
> skills
> > > on a
> > > > > > > char
> > > > > > > > > rather than 2? or does it matter? thats all i got fer
> now...
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > > > > > Fred
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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