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Message ID: 2499
Date: Thu Sep 30 03:00:07 BST 1999
Author: LKW
Subject: RE: Magi Talk


1. Hmm, I think it's the other way round leh. Bolt cast faster than shock,
but it's non-guided missle and normally slightly higher dam, LOS is also a
factor when targeting. Let me check my bolt and shock casting time
tonight.
2. Alamak, every class also complain, hehe, grass-elsewhere-greener
syndrome I guess. At least u magi nuke next to wiz, PLUS u got a pet to
tank for u..
3. I'm talking abt the range lvl 34-38. Magi dd inflict higher dam than
Wiz lah, no arguement on that. FF's lvl 34 dd is more than 310, while my
lvl 34 dd is only 30X. But even magi with a higher dd, I can easily draw
mob to me but not the other way round. My death at lvl 35 with FF (lvl 34
magi) and Zan (lvl 35 magi) prove it ;)
4. Magi is more of a supporting/nuking role in a grp, where wiz is pure
nuker. There is no arguement magi is the 2nd best nuker after wiz. And
with ya lvl 49 dd spell of 900dam, you guys are not 1/2 wiz coz our highest
dd spell is only 1200 (ie ya's is 75% of ours, not 50%), plus the fact u
guys can get tat spell easier and cast faster.
5. Overall speaking, other than dungeon, magi shld survive better than wiz,
if u play well.

Ziltus
*Kiting all the way*

p/s: I think I see low lvl EE roots..no?

On Thursday, 30 September, 1999 6:32 AM, Chen Lizhi
[SMTP:polarcoordinates@...] wrote:
> From: "Chen Lizhi" <polarcoordinates@...>
>
> I think you have a misconception here...
> 1)Bolt spells needs longer than Shock spells to cast, unless you
specialize
> in Evocation and maxed it then it is a different story. If not, Bolt
> generally needs longer than Shock.
> 2)Necro's pets are bugged now, if you give them a weapon, they will take
the
> speed of the weapon and the base damage of the MOB of their level. That
> means that if you give it a weapon with 13 delay at level 49 it will hit
> with 13 delay and for about 50-60 a pop. That is why they toned down both
> the Mage and Necro pet the previous patch. But from what I can see from
the
> screams and flames in a msg. board, I think Necro's pet still no change,
> only lower damage. They still take the speed of the weapon you give it.
> 3)Mages nuke never draw the MOB to us because for level 29 to 33 and
level
> 39 to 44 Wizards can do almost twice the damage a Mage can. This is
because
> Mages gets a new DD or Bolt spell every 10 levels. That is why MOBs seems
to
> be attracted to Wizards like ants to sugar.
> 4)Our buffs are 'store buffs'... I hate to burst you bubble, but the only
> thing Mages have worth summoning that is useful to a group is
RingofFlight.
> Our other 'store buffs'/weapon summoning spell also useful, if everyone
dies
> and need to get their body back from the middle of a dungeon. Even then,
the
> weapon's stats is pathetic for their level. Imagine using a
> BarbedLeatherWhip at level 38 to fight without any armor.
> 5)Pets tank for you while you flee. No arguement, my Mage have saved my
> party numerous time by making my pet to tank the stupid GreaterDarkBone
that
> drops through the ceiling in the Unrest Bartender room.
>
> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >Reply-To: sg-everquest@onelist.com
> >To: "'sg-everquest@onelist.com'" <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >Subject: [sg-everquest] Magi Talk
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:37:58 +0800
> >
> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> >I disagree Magi is lousy, and also disagreed tat magi w/o pet is 1/2 wiz
> >w/o rooting. In fact, in most places other than dungeon, I mean after
lvl
> >30, magi can solo better than wiz (remember u can solo in HH at lvl 30
but
> >I cant?).
> >
> >At high lvl, ya lava spell (900dd) can be purchased easily while we have
to
> >quest or research for our ice comet (1200dd). Ya casting time is also
much
> >shorter I believe (bolt spell casting time is shorter than shocl
spells).
> > Most of magi buff are 'stored buff', where u can summon till u log. I
> >basically think magi is pretty cool. H/w, above lvl 34, we really need
to
> >find good team and right place to adventure (same for other classes).
> >
> >Btw, I dun think u need root spell coz ya EE can root for u. Ever
notice
> >how the mob get 'rooted' by ya pet when u send pet in and nuke? When I
> >team with u, I always wonder why is it so, esp when ya dd is now higher
> >than mine. I think this is how Verant compensate magi for 'rooting'.
> > Unlike u, when we team, u send in pet and nuke, mob wont come to u,
but
> >it
> >come to me the moment I nuke. I think Verant make it such tat mob will
> >treat ya pet as part of u. So when u nuke harder, ya pet can still take
> >the punishment from u. Most impt of all, when wiz oom, we are dead meat
> >99% of the time unless we are just next to zone. Magi, on the other
hand,
> >can make use of pet to die for u while u flee to zone. Of coz once ya
pet
> >died, mob will still out run u, but at least u got longer fleeing time
than
> >wiz.
> >
> >Necro pet is also cool, but their spells are mainly dot. There is no
tank
> >(nuking) mage in EQ, but I believe magi is the only tank AND mage.
> >
> >I can still solo a bit coz of jboot. U shld know I'm also bad luck like
> >u..but I guess we just have to keep trying. ;)
> >
> >Ziltus
> >
> >
> >
> >On Tuesday, 28 September, 1999 11:04 PM, Tommy Fong
> >[SMTP:tommyfong@...] wrote:
> > > From: "Tommy Fong" <tommyfong@...>
> > >
> > > Garren,
> > >
> > > I'm ok. Dun take it seriously. I was just tired of Magician.
Without
> >the pets, he is only
> > > 1/2 wiz without the rooting ability. That sux. Most high lvl
hunting
> >place are dungeon
> > > that pets pose a high risk. Maybe time to switch to my shaman.
Sigh.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:04:20 +0800, Gary Qui Hong Loong wrote:
> > >
> > > >From: "Gary Qui Hong Loong" <kanglun@...>
> > > >
> > > >FF,
> > > > Sorri about last nite at Lower Guk. It wasn't ur fault. It
my
> >fault.
> > > >Ur lvl is just 1 lvl lower to get out of the Ice Bones aggr range. I
> >should
> > > >have get the group to clear it instead of blaming you. Please accept
my
> > > >apologies.
> > > >
> > > >>Singapore Everquest Players List
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Tommy Fong
> > >
> > > > Singapore Everquest Players List
> >
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>
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