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Message ID: 1439
Date: Wed Jul 28 10:01:35 BST 1999
Author: Sereph
Subject: Re: Tallon Zek Proposal
> From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
>
> The tables are turned now...Always got kOsed by the goody 2 shoes?Time for
> Revenge..
>
> Kenven's lavender eyes brightened up and draw his dagger behind his white
> mane....
>
> Entreri
>
> Email: drizzt@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy <sccheng@...>
> To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 4:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>
> >From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
> >
> >if can only loot coins... then whats the use? u get much more problems...
> >being KOS by NPC is bad enough... now u have to worry bout the rest of the
> >PCs... n also... am sure that it will be damn crowded.... perhaps u guys
> >consider shifting to a new server? (besides TZ)... i guess not since the
> >last time Ziltus tried... but wasnt very successful... oh well... hee~
> >
> >Nic
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Entreri <drizzt@...>
> >To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:42 PM
> >Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> >
> >
> >> From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
> >>
> >> If going TZ,Im all out of the Gangsters!!hehe[Darkelves,Trolls,Orge]!
> >> DarkElves is the... SUPREME race...hehe
> >>
> >> Entreri
> >>
> >> Email: drizzt@...
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> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >> To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 4:31 PM
> >> Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >> >
> >> >I read an article from EQ-lizer which talks abt the team comparison in
> >TZ.
> >> > I wanna to copy & paste to the mailing list but it's already taken down
> >> >from the site. Anyway I will try to recap the main points. Let break
> >the
> >> >4 teams into:
> >> >A. human, erudite, barbarian (the goons)
> >> >B. high elf, wood elf, half elf (the slims)
> >> >C. gnome, dwarf, halfling (the shorties)
> >> >D. dark elf, troll, ogre (the gansters)
> >> >
> >> >The main points are as follows:
> >> >1. Amg the 4 teams, talk abt power-play, order from best to worst is D,
> >C,
> >> >A, B (yeah, good races elves stats sux in EQ)
> >> >2. Talk abt the availabity and hunting 'territories" of different races
> >> >(taking into consideration of possible races conflicts as well), team D
> >has
> >> >the best source of hunting ground.
> >> >3. Talk abt unity, team A is the worse since their races is separated
> >while
> >> >team D is the best (all same continent).
> >> >4. Also take note that FP may be a big conflict land if there is not
> >enuff
> >> >humans to enforce the region.
> >> >5. Talk abt lvling and lowest xp penalty, order from best to worst: A,
> >B/C,
> >> >D
> >> >6. Comparing faction and npc relationship, from best to worst: C, A/B, D
> >> >
> >> >IMHO:
> >> >- If we are going for fast lvling and willing to take the shit for night
> >> >blindness, we shld go for A. (Problem: Low availability of hunting
> >> >grounds).
> >> >- If we wanan look good and enjoy more roleplay element, we shld go for
> B
> >> > (Problem: Other than look, we sux big time).
> >> >- If we dun mind short sighted and wanna power play good races, we shld
> >go
> >> >for C. (Problem: We look ugly)
> >> >- If we wanna rule and inflict fear to all hearts and power-play in own
> >> >server, we shld go for D. (Problem: we will be KOS in most area, not
> just
> >> >PvP but also PvNPC)
> >> >
> >> >Now, just to reply some earlier queries:
> >> >
> >> >Entreri:
> >> >FYI real neutral race like gnome is not KOS in evil race region. So
> when
> >a
> >> >gnome walk into DE city, they will charge him very expensive for buying
> >> >stuffs but they will not KOS him, unless his faction worse after killing
> >> >too many DE alliances.
> >> >Erudite and Barb are not nentral races I think. From the EQ Guide, only
> >> >gnome with another 1 or 2 races (dwarf and halfling?) are true neutral
> >> >races. H/w, due to the faction developed later, they can be KOS by evil
> >> >races npcs.
> >> >
> >> >Leshrec:
> >> >Entreri is talking abt alignment, which mainly affect the relationship
> >with
> >> >npc, ie good, neutral and evil.
> >> >In TZ, there are actually 4 teams (which involved PvP relationship):
> >> >human, erudite, barbarian (the goons)
> >> >high elf, wood elf, half elf (the slims)
> >> >gnome, dwarf, halfling (the shorties)
> >> >dark elf, troll, ogre (the gansters)
> >> >
> >> >Hope this explains.
> >> >Ziltus
> >> >
> >> >On Wednesday, 28 July, 1999 3:24 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> >> >[SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> >> >> From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
> >> >>
> >> >> I think its 4 sides... like wat Leshrec says... btw whats everyone op
> >on
> >> >> this? u guys gonna shift? I will still prefer to be Dark Elf if we
> >> >shift...
> >> >> if not High Elves....
> >> >>
> >> >> Nicademous
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Leshrec <leshrec@...>
> >> >> To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 4:20 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 3 sides? Wasn't it 4 sides with dwarves, halfings and gnomes forming
> >> >> another
> >> >> > side? Not sure so please confirm..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > From: Entreri <drizzt@...>
> >> >> > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >> >> > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 3:12 PM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Ok let me expain how the racewar server works.
> >> >> > >Good Races:WoodElf,HighElf,Half-Elf,Halflings,Dwarf
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Neutral:Gnome,Humans,Erudites,Barbarians
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Evil:DarkElf,Troll,Orge
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >NPC Guards of the Goody races will not KOS Goody and Neutral Races
> >and
> >> >> will
> >> >> > >KOS Evil Races
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >NPC Guards of the Evil Races will KOS all Goody races and
> >> >> Neutral-Goodclass
> >> >> > >races
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >HOWEVER,different groups can PvP different groups players which
> >means
> >> >let
> >> >> > >say a human walks into Kelethin,he would not be KOS by guards BUT
> >> >could
> >> >> be
> >> >> > >killed by Elves..
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >I think this should clear things up
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Entreri
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Email: drizzt@...
> >> >> > >ICQ UIN: 2326860
> >> >> > >Previewer, Singularity Gaming Network
> >> >> > >http://www.sg-gaming.net
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> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> > >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >> >> > >To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >> >> > >Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:51 AM
> >> >> > >Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>I'm neutral to the shifting, I just follow the majority kakis's
> >> >> decision,
> >> >> > >>even thou my wiz is just half bubb to lvl 24 (shld have lvl if not
> >> >becoz
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > >>server down last night).
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Personally I think TZ server will be a very difficult server yet
> >> >filled
> >> >> > >>with roleplay elements. Ever since we play EQ for so long, I bet
> >by
> >> >now
> >> >> > >>most of us know what we wanna be, how to train what our char and
> >> >possess
> >> >> > >>with, at least, the basic survival knowledge. Compared to the
> time
> >> >when
> >> >> I
> >> >> > >>start EQ w/o been a beta player, I was wrong at that time when
> >making
> >> >> > >>certain decisions, particularly how my char is created.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Nevertheless, I will stick to Wiz even if we were to shift over to
> >> >the
> >> >> new
> >> >> > >>server. Life is gonna be tough (esp the the begining stage, like
> >> >wanna
> >> >> > die
> >> >> > >>cannot die, wanna live cannot live) but if it's a race war server,
> >> >that
> >> >> > >>mean we better select to be under the same team. With the same
> >team,
> >> >I
> >> >> > bet
> >> >> > >>it will be much easier for us to hunt together.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>I'm for Erudite Wiz - with max INT pump in. Life will be harder
> >than
> >> >a
> >> >> HE
> >> >> > >>since ER dun have infravision (tried once in Prexus making a ER
> Wiz
> >> >and
> >> >> > >>find it VERY difficult to play w/o light, kena whack
> >> >up-down-left-right
> >> >> > >>shortly after I walked out of city).
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>I leave the decision to the majority and my heart follow the
> >> >majority.
> >> >> > Just
> >> >> > >>make sure this is the LAST migration, IF we have decided to shift.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Btw, can someone enllighten me on the following:
> >> >> > >>In normal server, npc only KOS char of different alignment (eg DE
> >> >kena
> >> >> KOS
> >> >> > >>in all elfs settlements, human kena KOS in Troll/Ogre territory,
> >BUT
> >> >> human
> >> >> > >>wont be KOS in elf terrority). May I know if a char of good race
> >> >walk
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > >>the city of ANOTHER TEAM which is ALSO a good race, will the char
> >> >kena
> >> >> > KOS?
> >> >> > >> Eg HE and Human are considered good races yet under different
> >team,
> >> >> will
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > >>human who walk into Felwithe kena KOS by HE npcs?
> >> >> > >>- If the answer is yes, then evil races will be a good choice,
> >since
> >> >> based
> >> >> > >>on EQ'Lizer's article abt race war team comparison, evil races
> (DE,
> >> >> troll,
> >> >> > >>Ogre) have some of the best races for most of the classes. They
> >also
> >> >> have
> >> >> > >>advantages since they have more access to the better lvling
> >dungeons.
> >> >> > >>- If the answer is no (ie human char can go to elf shop buying
> >> >supplies
> >> >> > w/o
> >> >> > >>been KOS), I will go for human, erudite and barbarian, they can
> lvl
> >> >> > >>fastest. Thou life is hard in the begining w/o light, but the
> >reward
> >> >> will
> >> >> > >>pay off at the later stage. Erudite makes the most powerful
> >casters
> >> >at
> >> >> > >>high lvl, Barbarian make excellent tankers and human is the most
> >> >> flexible
> >> >> > >>amg all races, plus no xp penalty - see how someone in Inno lvl so
> >> >damn
> >> >> > >>fast? hehe.
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Ziltus
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>On Tuesday, 27 July, 1999 9:25 PM, Entreri
> >> >[SMTP:drizzt@...]
> >> >> > >>wrote:
> >> >> > >>> Hi guys,
> >> >> > >>> I propose that we all move to Tallon Zek[PvP Teams].Okay here
> are
> >> >my
> >> >> > >>SUGGESTIONS on why we MIGHT wanna move there.However if there isnt
> >> >much
> >> >> > >>support,I will stay in Innoruuk with u guys.All critisims are
> >> >welcomed!
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 1.Guild:Okay,lets face it,for normal servers,Guild aint of much
> >fan
> >> >> > >>except of a tag there.I foresee that if a guild is set up in
> Tallon
> >> >> Zek,it
> >> >> > >>would be much more meaningfull in the sense that when everyone has
> >a
> >> >> > common
> >> >> > >>goal and at the same time roleplaying WHAT it should be[huh?A
> >paladin
> >> >> and
> >> >> > >>SK chatting with each other?].Serious roleplaying could be carried
> >to
> >> >> the
> >> >> > >>fullest and the tension when going over zones which WILL encourage
> >> >> > grouping
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 2.New Server.Since its new,it would be nice that there will be
> >> >players
> >> >> > >>around to group.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 3.MAIN POINT:The tension!This time,you would be much more
> >carefull
> >> >> going
> >> >> > >>through zones and when buddies come the fullest and where racism
> >too
> >> >> > >>:).Although all the Singaporean EQ Players would be best if same
> >> >> > >>group,however we could have some not in this group so they could
> >set
> >> >up
> >> >> > >>their own guild and wage war with us which WILL defintely improve
> >the
> >> >SG
> >> >> > EQ
> >> >> > >>community.If we could not be friends,we could be still foes :)
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 4.ok..high level players..ahem Garren...There seems to be a
> quest
> >> >to
> >> >> > >>switch servers though I do not encourage this coz it would be more
> >> >fun
> >> >> if
> >> >> > >>everyone same level.
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 5.SG Mauling:heh..Imagine all 35SG players on this list play
> same
> >> >> group
> >> >> > >>and have a FULLSCALE invasion on Freeport?hehe...imagine the fun..
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 6.The spirit bond BTW on SG players will defintely tighten with
> >> >> this..:)
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 7.Makes higher lv SGs get good items for their lower SG
> >> >counterparts
> >> >> so
> >> >> > >>our SG strength could be increased.[Note:Coz 300levels4s could
> maul
> >a
> >> >> > >>level50?]
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 8.We could have serious planning on what class to use so we
> would
> >> >not
> >> >> be
> >> >> > >>as messy as now...
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 9.We had PROBABLY wrongly configured our chr in the past so it
> >> >would
> >> >> be
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > >>nice change
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> 10.SGs players are now split into 2..mainly the highlevels and
> >low
> >> >> > >>levels..It would be nice if this everyone would be same level
> again
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Thx for reading...just my 2cents
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Entreri
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Email: drizzt@...
> >> >> > >>> ICQ UIN: 2326860
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