The tables are turned now...Always got kOsed by the goody 2 shoes?Time for
Revenge..

Kenven's lavender eyes brightened up and draw his dagger behind his white
mane....

Entreri

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-----Original Message-----
From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy <sccheng@...>
To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal

>From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
>
>if can only loot coins... then whats the use? u get much more problems...
>being KOS by NPC is bad enough... now u have to worry bout the rest of the
>PCs... n also... am sure that it will be damn crowded.... perhaps u guys
>consider shifting to a new server? (besides TZ)... i guess not since the
>last time Ziltus tried... but wasnt very successful... oh well... hee~
>
>Nic
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Entreri <drizzt@...>
>To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>
>
>> From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
>>
>> If going TZ,Im all out of the Gangsters!!hehe[Darkelves,Trolls,Orge]!
>> DarkElves is the... SUPREME race...hehe
>>
>> Entreri
>>
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>> To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 4:31 PM
>> Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>>
>>
>> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>> >
>> >I read an article from EQ-lizer which talks abt the team comparison in
>TZ.
>> > I wanna to copy & paste to the mailing list but it's already taken down
>> >from the site. Anyway I will try to recap the main points. Let break
>the
>> >4 teams into:
>> >A. human, erudite, barbarian (the goons)
>> >B. high elf, wood elf, half elf (the slims)
>> >C. gnome, dwarf, halfling (the shorties)
>> >D. dark elf, troll, ogre (the gansters)
>> >
>> >The main points are as follows:
>> >1. Amg the 4 teams, talk abt power-play, order from best to worst is D,
>C,
>> >A, B (yeah, good races elves stats sux in EQ)
>> >2. Talk abt the availabity and hunting 'territories" of different races
>> >(taking into consideration of possible races conflicts as well), team D
>has
>> >the best source of hunting ground.
>> >3. Talk abt unity, team A is the worse since their races is separated
>while
>> >team D is the best (all same continent).
>> >4. Also take note that FP may be a big conflict land if there is not
>enuff
>> >humans to enforce the region.
>> >5. Talk abt lvling and lowest xp penalty, order from best to worst: A,
>B/C,
>> >D
>> >6. Comparing faction and npc relationship, from best to worst: C, A/B, D
>> >
>> >IMHO:
>> >- If we are going for fast lvling and willing to take the shit for night
>> >blindness, we shld go for A. (Problem: Low availability of hunting
>> >grounds).
>> >- If we wanan look good and enjoy more roleplay element, we shld go for

>> > (Problem: Other than look, we sux big time).
>> >- If we dun mind short sighted and wanna power play good races, we shld
>go
>> >for C. (Problem: We look ugly)
>> >- If we wanna rule and inflict fear to all hearts and power-play in own
>> >server, we shld go for D. (Problem: we will be KOS in most area, not

just

>> >PvP but also PvNPC)
>> >
>> >Now, just to reply some earlier queries:
>> >
>> >Entreri:
>> >FYI real neutral race like gnome is not KOS in evil race region. So

when

>a
>> >gnome walk into DE city, they will charge him very expensive for buying
>> >stuffs but they will not KOS him, unless his faction worse after killing
>> >too many DE alliances.
>> >Erudite and Barb are not nentral races I think. From the EQ Guide, only
>> >gnome with another 1 or 2 races (dwarf and halfling?) are true neutral
>> >races. H/w, due to the faction developed later, they can be KOS by evil
>> >races npcs.
>> >
>> >Leshrec:
>> >Entreri is talking abt alignment, which mainly affect the relationship
>with
>> >npc, ie good, neutral and evil.
>> >In TZ, there are actually 4 teams (which involved PvP relationship):
>> >human, erudite, barbarian (the goons)
>> >high elf, wood elf, half elf (the slims)
>> >gnome, dwarf, halfling (the shorties)
>> >dark elf, troll, ogre (the gansters)
>> >
>> >Hope this explains.
>> >Ziltus
>> >
>> >On Wednesday, 28 July, 1999 3:24 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
>> >[SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
>> >> From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
>> >>
>> >> I think its 4 sides... like wat Leshrec says... btw whats everyone op
>on
>> >> this? u guys gonna shift? I will still prefer to be Dark Elf if we
>> >shift...
>> >> if not High Elves....
>> >>
>> >> Nicademous
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Leshrec <leshrec@...>
>> >> To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 4:20 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
>> >> >
>> >> > 3 sides? Wasn't it 4 sides with dwarves, halfings and gnomes forming
>> >> another
>> >> > side? Not sure so please confirm..
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Entreri <drizzt@...>
>> >> > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>> >> > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 3:12 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Ok let me expain how the racewar server works.
>> >> > >Good Races:WoodElf,HighElf,Half-Elf,Halflings,Dwarf
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Neutral:Gnome,Humans,Erudites,Barbarians
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Evil:DarkElf,Troll,Orge
>> >> > >
>> >> > >NPC Guards of the Goody races will not KOS Goody and Neutral Races
>and
>> >> will
>> >> > >KOS Evil Races
>> >> > >
>> >> > >NPC Guards of the Evil Races will KOS all Goody races and
>> >> Neutral-Goodclass
>> >> > >races
>> >> > >
>> >> > >HOWEVER,different groups can PvP different groups players which
>means
>> >let
>> >> > >say a human walks into Kelethin,he would not be KOS by guards BUT
>> >could
>> >> be
>> >> > >killed by Elves..
>> >> > >
>> >> > >I think this should clear things up
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Entreri
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Email: drizzt@...
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>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >-----Original Message-----
>> >> > >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>> >> > >To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>> >> > >Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:51 AM
>> >> > >Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I'm neutral to the shifting, I just follow the majority kakis's
>> >> decision,
>> >> > >>even thou my wiz is just half bubb to lvl 24 (shld have lvl if not
>> >becoz
>> >> > of
>> >> > >>server down last night).
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Personally I think TZ server will be a very difficult server yet
>> >filled
>> >> > >>with roleplay elements. Ever since we play EQ for so long, I bet
>by
>> >now
>> >> > >>most of us know what we wanna be, how to train what our char and
>> >possess
>> >> > >>with, at least, the basic survival knowledge. Compared to the

time

>> >when
>> >> I
>> >> > >>start EQ w/o been a beta player, I was wrong at that time when
>making
>> >> > >>certain decisions, particularly how my char is created.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Nevertheless, I will stick to Wiz even if we were to shift over to
>> >the
>> >> new
>> >> > >>server. Life is gonna be tough (esp the the begining stage, like
>> >wanna
>> >> > die
>> >> > >>cannot die, wanna live cannot live) but if it's a race war server,
>> >that
>> >> > >>mean we better select to be under the same team. With the same
>team,
>> >I
>> >> > bet
>> >> > >>it will be much easier for us to hunt together.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I'm for Erudite Wiz - with max INT pump in. Life will be harder
>than
>> >a
>> >> HE
>> >> > >>since ER dun have infravision (tried once in Prexus making a ER

Wiz

>> >and
>> >> > >>find it VERY difficult to play w/o light, kena whack
>> >up-down-left-right
>> >> > >>shortly after I walked out of city).
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>I leave the decision to the majority and my heart follow the
>> >majority.
>> >> > Just
>> >> > >>make sure this is the LAST migration, IF we have decided to shift.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Btw, can someone enllighten me on the following:
>> >> > >>In normal server, npc only KOS char of different alignment (eg DE
>> >kena
>> >> KOS
>> >> > >>in all elfs settlements, human kena KOS in Troll/Ogre territory,
>BUT
>> >> human
>> >> > >>wont be KOS in elf terrority). May I know if a char of good race
>> >walk
>> >> > into
>> >> > >>the city of ANOTHER TEAM which is ALSO a good race, will the char
>> >kena
>> >> > KOS?
>> >> > >> Eg HE and Human are considered good races yet under different
>team,
>> >> will
>> >> > a
>> >> > >>human who walk into Felwithe kena KOS by HE npcs?
>> >> > >>- If the answer is yes, then evil races will be a good choice,
>since
>> >> based
>> >> > >>on EQ'Lizer's article abt race war team comparison, evil races

(DE,

>> >> troll,
>> >> > >>Ogre) have some of the best races for most of the classes. They
>also
>> >> have
>> >> > >>advantages since they have more access to the better lvling
>dungeons.
>> >> > >>- If the answer is no (ie human char can go to elf shop buying
>> >supplies
>> >> > w/o
>> >> > >>been KOS), I will go for human, erudite and barbarian, they can

lvl

>> >> > >>fastest. Thou life is hard in the begining w/o light, but the
>reward
>> >> will
>> >> > >>pay off at the later stage. Erudite makes the most powerful
>casters
>> >at
>> >> > >>high lvl, Barbarian make excellent tankers and human is the most
>> >> flexible
>> >> > >>amg all races, plus no xp penalty - see how someone in Inno lvl so
>> >damn
>> >> > >>fast? hehe.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Ziltus
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>On Tuesday, 27 July, 1999 9:25 PM, Entreri
>> >[SMTP:drizzt@...]
>> >> > >>wrote:
>> >> > >>> Hi guys,
>> >> > >>> I propose that we all move to Tallon Zek[PvP Teams].Okay here

are

>> >my
>> >> > >>SUGGESTIONS on why we MIGHT wanna move there.However if there isnt
>> >much
>> >> > >>support,I will stay in Innoruuk with u guys.All critisims are
>> >welcomed!
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 1.Guild:Okay,lets face it,for normal servers,Guild aint of much
>fan
>> >> > >>except of a tag there.I foresee that if a guild is set up in

Tallon

>> >> Zek,it
>> >> > >>would be much more meaningfull in the sense that when everyone has
>a
>> >> > common
>> >> > >>goal and at the same time roleplaying WHAT it should be[huh?A
>paladin
>> >> and
>> >> > >>SK chatting with each other?].Serious roleplaying could be carried
>to
>> >> the
>> >> > >>fullest and the tension when going over zones which WILL encourage
>> >> > grouping
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 2.New Server.Since its new,it would be nice that there will be
>> >players
>> >> > >>around to group.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 3.MAIN POINT:The tension!This time,you would be much more
>carefull
>> >> going
>> >> > >>through zones and when buddies come the fullest and where racism
>too
>> >> > >>:).Although all the Singaporean EQ Players would be best if same
>> >> > >>group,however we could have some not in this group so they could
>set
>> >up
>> >> > >>their own guild and wage war with us which WILL defintely improve
>the
>> >SG
>> >> > EQ
>> >> > >>community.If we could not be friends,we could be still foes :)
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 4.ok..high level players..ahem Garren...There seems to be a

quest

>> >to
>> >> > >>switch servers though I do not encourage this coz it would be more
>> >fun
>> >> if
>> >> > >>everyone same level.
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 5.SG Mauling:heh..Imagine all 35SG players on this list play

same

>> >> group
>> >> > >>and have a FULLSCALE invasion on Freeport?hehe...imagine the fun..
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 6.The spirit bond BTW on SG players will defintely tighten with
>> >> this..:)
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 7.Makes higher lv SGs get good items for their lower SG
>> >counterparts
>> >> so
>> >> > >>our SG strength could be increased.[Note:Coz 300levels4s could

maul

>a
>> >> > >>level50?]
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 8.We could have serious planning on what class to use so we

would

>> >not
>> >> be
>> >> > >>as messy as now...
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 9.We had PROBABLY wrongly configured our chr in the past so it
>> >would
>> >> be
>> >> > a
>> >> > >>nice change
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> 10.SGs players are now split into 2..mainly the highlevels and
>low
>> >> > >>levels..It would be nice if this everyone would be same level

again

>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Thx for reading...just my 2cents
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Entreri
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Email: drizzt@...
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