I'll type up my response on Saturday, damn lectures has sapped off all my
creative essence.
Alex wrote:
> From: "Alex" <leealex@...>
>
> A very obivous Scenerio of A STEAL
>
> Not necassary have to be a wiz, if u think that only wiz steals , u r wrong.
> All type of Classes steals, from Monk to Shaman(and those not so important
> Classes in between, 8-) ).
> "U spot a nastis no one is fighting . U r the first and only one fighting it
> now. A spellcaster is invis/sitting pretty at a safe distance watching u
> fighting alone , U hit and kick and bite and scream at that nasties till its
> down to about 55% HP left on it (U probaly have about 80% hp left).The
> Spellcaster stands up throw a heavy nuke and Kills it on the spot. He hits
> it with 55% damage, u hit only 45%. He gets the loot AND the Xp.U get
> NOTHIN. oh..not really nothing , if u happened to be a tank-monk(VIC -aka
> VERY Important Class) , u get the injuries and the pissed. Tough :P
>
> Even seen a Enchanter "steal"?. He waits till another naties is about.
> "Charm" the nasties u r fighting. The Charmed nasties(the one your WERE
> fighting) turn around and fight the other nasties. He spellcasted and hit
> the other nasties with the help of the Charmed . ah.. interesting... SUX.
> "Stealing"????
>
> Yiyang
> Monk'eying at East Karana with Trifrost
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Synzzz <hannibal@...>
> To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Solo'ing
>
> >From: "Synzzz" <hannibal@...>
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >I think it's very sad that wiz get to steal kills like that. I'm a magi and
> >i've yet to encounter it...
> >but i'm not jealous or anything..but i think this really spoils a game when
> >ppl steal kills.
> >I never steal kill even when i'm a sole caster around and can nuke. I mean
> >if everyone
> >could just be nicer...this game would be so much better. Then again..the
> >WORLD would be much
> >better...hehe...guess real life gets into everything *sigh*
> >
> >I just feel kinda demoralised at hearing such stuff about the game.
> >I'm not very sure on this but can you guys clarify?
> >When you and others attack a mob..the one that gets last kill has what
> >rewards? Loot?
> >I thought that as long as you contribute significant (50%?) of dmg to
> >mob..you get exp too?
> >Maybe someone can explain this to me =)
> >
> >I got alot to find out man...played a few days till now..still blur on
> >several things.
> >
> >p.s. What is IMHO???? "I Make Huge Oreos"?? "I aM a Horny Ogre"??
> >
> >Zanderion
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:23 PM
> >Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Solo'ing
> >
> >
> >> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >>
> >> It's very sad to see Trifrost changing sex, ops, I mean changing class,
> >> hehe. I'll missed all the good old days of having free SOWing ;)
> >>
> >> From my personal experience, my hardest days as a wiz is between lvl
> 6-11.
> >> This is the time where our dd spell sux, our melee sux, we cant steal,
> we
> >> cant block, we cant melee and has to live like a parasite begging
> everyone
> >> to let us tag along, haha (loss count of how many times I spaming the
> zone
> >> shouting for group and no one ever reply). After lvl 12, we start to
> pick
> >> up some face with the more 'presentable' shock spell, and our market
> value
> >> incease with lvl 16 lighing shock spell. I heard at lvl 20, we will
> start
> >> to get our very 1st mana efficient 'mass dd' spell - force shiok, ops I
> >> mean shock, hehe. Maybe Leshrec can elaborate more on this. ;)
> >>
> >> I've been teaming with a magi and a bard since lvl 8 - Flyingfox and
> >> Deadflower. DF's song has save our butts many times but he is now having
> >> his hardest day finding a magical weap to attack mobs tat can only be
> >> hurted by magic means. His melee is also lossing out when comparing with
> >> paladin/shadowknight/warriors. For the past 2 night DF has died at least
> >2
> >> times trying to tank in the group. Fox also start to face a hard time
> >> losing kills to those wiz of similar lvl. According to Sereph, magi
> will
> >> have a hard time getting their summoning spells from lvl 16 onwards,
> necro
> >> from lvl 20+ and wiz from lvl 30+ onwards.
> >>
> >> On the other hand I feel I'm playing at the peak of my wiz life so far,
> >coz
> >> with the shieldskin, invis and root, I have no problem travelling and
> >> fighting a mob white or sometime yellow to me. Of coz, I still need a
> >> group for long term survival, but I start to feel the joy of playing as a
> >> wiz. I remember the days I whine alot of been a weakling wiz during
> >newbie
> >> time coz I've so much problem in both soloing and grouping - very often
> >I'm
> >> the first one who died in a group ;) Now I feel I have to ability to
> solo
> >> at times when I cant find a good team to join. (Hopefully I dun have to
> >> whine again at higher lvl, hehe).
> >>
> >> I ever mentioned abt an articles I read on UOVault or UOSS abt soloing,
> >> which the author ranking the race/class combo best for soloing in the
> >> following order:
> >> - Troll anything
> >> - Wiz
> >> - Shaman
> >> - Dwarven Cleric
> >> - Monk
> >> He also mentioned monk, been the lowest in soloing order, will ultimately
> >> become the easiest to solo above lvl 30. Dunno if this is still true,
> but
> >> I just hope wiz remains to be a possible choice for soloing at high lvl.
> >>
> >> Last night there is a big stealing party at HH. 90% of the participants
> >> are pure casters, and melee chars all have to stand aside, hehe. Even
> >> combining Ling (lvl 18 wiz), Fox (lvl 17 magi) and I, we only have a 50%
> >> successful rate in getting a kill (well we are competing with lvl 20s
> >> there). Frankly speaking if thing con't to stay on like tat, I would
> >> rather hunt at oasis orc camp, thou the loot is much more lousy and
> >> inconvenient due to the wulu wulu location.
> >>
> >> Come to think of it, I dun think TF is taking too long lvling his shaman,
> >> coz he has MIA for quite a while. If he find it too long, then he shld
> >> compare me and Les - which I'm at one time 6 to 7 lvl lag behind him coz
> >of
> >> house shifting - dun forget Les is also training his necro while I only
> >> focusing on 1 char.
> >>
> >> No doubt a magi can solo well, coz he's like a provisional shop keeper
> >with
> >> most of the stuffs avilable at his summoning. H/w, I think we have to
> >> consider 2 sides of soloing - roleplaying aspect and realplaying aspect.
> >> As a magi, u can have all the supplies at a wave of ya hand, but when it
> >> come to hunting and lvling, you still need somone to tank, someone to
> nuke
> >> for u. A soloing magi will get no where at high lvl, coz wiz will steal
> >> from u, tankers can last longer than u, and worse, half of ya XP goes to
> >ya
> >> pet! So I will consider magi a very good choice for roleplaying but not
> >> REALplaying. I guess necro is a better choice for REALplaying, since
> they
> >> can dot and drain hp (ie heal). Magi is next to enchanter when coming to
> >> 'group' caster. I've nothing against it, but hope TF can consider the
> l/t
> >> implication instead of just current situation. Yes, the 1st lvl 8 I met
> >in
> >> Prexus is a magi and a necro, who guard the Kobold camp whole day with
> >> their pets. But imagine like a place like HH pass, ya guarding pet only
> >> provide a tank for those nukers - which they use ya pet to tank them
> while
> >> they laughing behind, nuking and stealing ya kill.
> >>
> >> EQ is a group game, personally I dun think any of the char I mentioned
> >> above is a good soloing choice. At most they can only be a good
> PART-TIME
> >> soloer, where u can still do a bit soloing when you dun feel like teaming
> >> with others sometime (err who knows? some gals are in bad mood certain
> >> time of the month, hehe).
> >>
> >> At least we have a big pool of local kakis which we can rely and
> dependent
> >> on, trusty worthy as well. I used to vioce out the loot order when I
> join
> >> other groups as a newbie, but now I prefer free loot coz I knew I can
> >trust
> >> our own kakis to bahave themselves. With all of us under the same guild,
> >I
> >> dun think we will encounter much problem getting a descent group using
> the
> >> guildsay.
> >>
> >> As for the backward trick, it's not working for casters. Once we lose a
> >> lvl, we lose the mana, which reduce our casting ability. Losing a lvl at
> >> those critical lvl where we gain new spells will disable us to cast the
> >new
> >> spells, even if I've memo it (already try it, not on purpose but I always
> >> seem to die the moment I gain the lvl to cast new spells, hehe).
> >>
> >> I agreed with YY abt sometime we tends to slow down abit when grouping.
> >> When I gain my last bubb of xp at lvl 18, I only need an hr, where I
> took
> >> whole Sunday grouping with others to gain 4 bubb, and mind u, I'm playing
> >> the 'legal' nuking for my last bubb of xp. The worse time-vs-xp rate is
> >> when I team with DF (ok, just for elaborate purpose), I'm basically
> nuking
> >> 95% of the time while he stand nearby singing song. I won't blame him
> coz
> >> it's really very diifficult for him to assist in kill the mobs. 1st most
> >> of the mobs are red to him, 2nd he dun have a good weap. H/w, I still
> >> enjoy sharing xp with him coz I enjoy his company. Of coz I can simply
> >act
> >> blur and solo, coz it dun really make much different for me, but DF has
> do
> >> me a big favor during my newbie time and I really dun mind sharing my xp
> >> with him. I think this is the other element which we will come across
> >when
> >> playing EQ - friendship.
> >> DF ever to come all the way from Felwithe to escort me to get my corpse
> >> from mino cave and lead me back to Felwithe during my 1st trip to
> >> Steamfont. He was killed at lesser Faydark when we meet with a train of
> >> orcs half way thru the journey. If u guys hunt with him often, u will
> >> notice DF always LD at night, and given the fact that he almost logout
> >that
> >> night and change him mind after getting my seek help msg, I will never
> >> forget his kindness. That's why until now I will try my very best to
> help
> >> him, and hopefully contribute back to those who ever help me (Leshrec,
> >> Garren, YY etc). OPs, side track more than YY liao, pai seh, hahaha.
> >>
> >> YY, let organise a Paw/Permfrost trip tonight if HH is flooded with
> >> stealers again? I'm the first one who is more than willing to follow.
> >I've
> >> been begging around for pple to bring me to Paw, heard too much of the
> >> goodies there, yet fairly safe for group hunting. I propose we form 2
> >> groups there -the higher lvls protect and help the lower lvls to get some
> >> descent equipments.
> >>
> >> Someone train a damn SOWer pls, hahahahahahah ;-?
> >>
> >> Ziltus
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, 06 July, 1999 4:58 PM, Alex [SMTP:leealex@...]
> >> wrote:
> >> > From: "Alex" <leealex@...>
> >> >
> >> > Today TriFrost just started a magician Char. He finds its takes too
> long
> >> to
> >> > Solo-Lvl at 16th for a Shaman. I dont blame him,casters will find it
> >more
> >> > diff to Solo when they get higer lvl. I have read that monks too will
> >> have
> >> > some diff. when monks reach 25th. it going to be tougher. Con' msg
> >> changes
> >> > again to 2 types of Green, 3-4 types of Blue msg.
> >> >
> >> > EQ being a Group game will "force" player to be group and team. An
> "old"
> >> EQ
> >> > monk friend name "Chien" whom started off the same time as me is now a
> >> Lvl
> >> > 36th monk. He been trying to avoid being "guilded" into a Guild. But
> now
> >> is
> >> > with the "Apo Knights" becos his regualr Kakis r in that Guild and I
> >> noticed
> >> > a slowed down on his lvling , my guess is that so he could "group" with
> >> his
> >> > buddies , partly also is get tougher to lvl as u go higer.
> >> >
> >> > the following parargrah is not about xp lvling is bout soloing and
> >> enjoying
> >> > killin the nasties that u like to kill over and over again. 8-)
> >> > I had tried a "back-ward" lvling trick(original idea) to hit nasties
> >that
> >> > cons Green to me at 19th lvl but r Blue at 18th. I max out melee skills
> >> at
> >> > 19th on the first bubble. Commited sucide and be killed 3-4 times and
> go
> >> > back to 18th. I killed the "Blue" nasties easy since my melee is max at
> >> 19th
> >> > lvl. The purpose is obviously not for xp or lvls. It for easy money and
> >> > kills. Now i've tried this on lvl 20th it didnt work too well since i
> >got
> >> a
> >> > new skill, "Eagle strike" on this lvl. When i backward lvl. I "Lost"
> >that
> >> > new Skill, since "Eagle Strike" is not avaible for lvl 19.Ok i have
> >side
> >> > Tracked. sorri.
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions to overcome some of the Soloing problem?
> >> > Perhaps more informal expeditions and Gatherings need to be organise,
> >not
> >> > only for weekends but any other days. Need not be to new far away
> >places.
> >> > Some where need by with decent loot and decent xp. Whats imporatant is
> >> the
> >> > enjoyment.
> >> >
> >> > ANy one for Paw or Permfrost?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Yiyang at FP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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