A very obivous Scenerio of A STEAL
Not necassary have to be a wiz, if u think that only wiz steals , u r wrong.
All type of Classes steals, from Monk to Shaman(and those not so important
Classes in between, 8-) ).
"U spot a nastis no one is fighting . U r the first and only one fighting it
now. A spellcaster is invis/sitting pretty at a safe distance watching u
fighting alone , U hit and kick and bite and scream at that nasties till its
down to about 55% HP left on it (U probaly have about 80% hp left).The
Spellcaster stands up throw a heavy nuke and Kills it on the spot. He hits
it with 55% damage, u hit only 45%. He gets the loot AND the Xp.U get
NOTHIN. oh..not really nothing , if u happened to be a tank-monk(VIC -aka
VERY Important Class) , u get the injuries and the pissed. Tough :P
Even seen a Enchanter "steal"?. He waits till another naties is about.
"Charm" the nasties u r fighting. The Charmed nasties(the one your WERE
fighting) turn around and fight the other nasties. He spellcasted and hit
the other nasties with the help of the Charmed . ah.. interesting... SUX.
"Stealing"????
Yiyang
Monk'eying at East Karana with Trifrost
-----Original Message-----
From: Synzzz <
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Date: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Solo'ing
>From: "Synzzz" <hannibal@...>
>
>Guys,
>
>I think it's very sad that wiz get to steal kills like that. I'm a magi and
>i've yet to encounter it...
>but i'm not jealous or anything..but i think this really spoils a game when
>ppl steal kills.
>I never steal kill even when i'm a sole caster around and can nuke. I mean
>if everyone
>could just be nicer...this game would be so much better. Then again..the
>WORLD would be much
>better...hehe...guess real life gets into everything *sigh*
>
>I just feel kinda demoralised at hearing such stuff about the game.
>I'm not very sure on this but can you guys clarify?
>When you and others attack a mob..the one that gets last kill has what
>rewards? Loot?
>I thought that as long as you contribute significant (50%?) of dmg to
>mob..you get exp too?
>Maybe someone can explain this to me =)
>
>I got alot to find out man...played a few days till now..still blur on
>several things.
>
>p.s. What is IMHO???? "I Make Huge Oreos"?? "I aM a Horny Ogre"??
>
>Zanderion
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Solo'ing
>
>
>> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>>
>> It's very sad to see Trifrost changing sex, ops, I mean changing class,
>> hehe. I'll missed all the good old days of having free SOWing ;)
>>
>> From my personal experience, my hardest days as a wiz is between lvl
6-11.
>> This is the time where our dd spell sux, our melee sux, we cant steal,
we
>> cant block, we cant melee and has to live like a parasite begging
everyone
>> to let us tag along, haha (loss count of how many times I spaming the
zone
>> shouting for group and no one ever reply). After lvl 12, we start to
pick
>> up some face with the more 'presentable' shock spell, and our market
value
>> incease with lvl 16 lighing shock spell. I heard at lvl 20, we will
start
>> to get our very 1st mana efficient 'mass dd' spell - force shiok, ops I
>> mean shock, hehe. Maybe Leshrec can elaborate more on this. ;)
>>
>> I've been teaming with a magi and a bard since lvl 8 - Flyingfox and
>> Deadflower. DF's song has save our butts many times but he is now having
>> his hardest day finding a magical weap to attack mobs tat can only be
>> hurted by magic means. His melee is also lossing out when comparing with
>> paladin/shadowknight/warriors. For the past 2 night DF has died at least
>2
>> times trying to tank in the group. Fox also start to face a hard time
>> losing kills to those wiz of similar lvl. According to Sereph, magi
will
>> have a hard time getting their summoning spells from lvl 16 onwards,
necro
>> from lvl 20+ and wiz from lvl 30+ onwards.
>>
>> On the other hand I feel I'm playing at the peak of my wiz life so far,
>coz
>> with the shieldskin, invis and root, I have no problem travelling and
>> fighting a mob white or sometime yellow to me. Of coz, I still need a
>> group for long term survival, but I start to feel the joy of playing as a
>> wiz. I remember the days I whine alot of been a weakling wiz during
>newbie
>> time coz I've so much problem in both soloing and grouping - very often
>I'm
>> the first one who died in a group ;) Now I feel I have to ability to
solo
>> at times when I cant find a good team to join. (Hopefully I dun have to
>> whine again at higher lvl, hehe).
>>
>> I ever mentioned abt an articles I read on UOVault or UOSS abt soloing,
>> which the author ranking the race/class combo best for soloing in the
>> following order:
>> - Troll anything
>> - Wiz
>> - Shaman
>> - Dwarven Cleric
>> - Monk
>> He also mentioned monk, been the lowest in soloing order, will ultimately
>> become the easiest to solo above lvl 30. Dunno if this is still true,
but
>> I just hope wiz remains to be a possible choice for soloing at high lvl.
>>
>> Last night there is a big stealing party at HH. 90% of the participants
>> are pure casters, and melee chars all have to stand aside, hehe. Even
>> combining Ling (lvl 18 wiz), Fox (lvl 17 magi) and I, we only have a 50%
>> successful rate in getting a kill (well we are competing with lvl 20s
>> there). Frankly speaking if thing con't to stay on like tat, I would
>> rather hunt at oasis orc camp, thou the loot is much more lousy and
>> inconvenient due to the wulu wulu location.
>>
>> Come to think of it, I dun think TF is taking too long lvling his shaman,
>> coz he has MIA for quite a while. If he find it too long, then he shld
>> compare me and Les - which I'm at one time 6 to 7 lvl lag behind him coz
>of
>> house shifting - dun forget Les is also training his necro while I only
>> focusing on 1 char.
>>
>> No doubt a magi can solo well, coz he's like a provisional shop keeper
>with
>> most of the stuffs avilable at his summoning. H/w, I think we have to
>> consider 2 sides of soloing - roleplaying aspect and realplaying aspect.
>> As a magi, u can have all the supplies at a wave of ya hand, but when it
>> come to hunting and lvling, you still need somone to tank, someone to
nuke
>> for u. A soloing magi will get no where at high lvl, coz wiz will steal
>> from u, tankers can last longer than u, and worse, half of ya XP goes to
>ya
>> pet! So I will consider magi a very good choice for roleplaying but not
>> REALplaying. I guess necro is a better choice for REALplaying, since
they
>> can dot and drain hp (ie heal). Magi is next to enchanter when coming to
>> 'group' caster. I've nothing against it, but hope TF can consider the
l/t
>> implication instead of just current situation. Yes, the 1st lvl 8 I met
>in
>> Prexus is a magi and a necro, who guard the Kobold camp whole day with
>> their pets. But imagine like a place like HH pass, ya guarding pet only
>> provide a tank for those nukers - which they use ya pet to tank them
while
>> they laughing behind, nuking and stealing ya kill.
>>
>> EQ is a group game, personally I dun think any of the char I mentioned
>> above is a good soloing choice. At most they can only be a good
PART-TIME
>> soloer, where u can still do a bit soloing when you dun feel like teaming
>> with others sometime (err who knows? some gals are in bad mood certain
>> time of the month, hehe).
>>
>> At least we have a big pool of local kakis which we can rely and
dependent
>> on, trusty worthy as well. I used to vioce out the loot order when I
join
>> other groups as a newbie, but now I prefer free loot coz I knew I can
>trust
>> our own kakis to bahave themselves. With all of us under the same guild,
>I
>> dun think we will encounter much problem getting a descent group using
the
>> guildsay.
>>
>> As for the backward trick, it's not working for casters. Once we lose a
>> lvl, we lose the mana, which reduce our casting ability. Losing a lvl at
>> those critical lvl where we gain new spells will disable us to cast the
>new
>> spells, even if I've memo it (already try it, not on purpose but I always
>> seem to die the moment I gain the lvl to cast new spells, hehe).
>>
>> I agreed with YY abt sometime we tends to slow down abit when grouping.
>> When I gain my last bubb of xp at lvl 18, I only need an hr, where I
took
>> whole Sunday grouping with others to gain 4 bubb, and mind u, I'm playing
>> the 'legal' nuking for my last bubb of xp. The worse time-vs-xp rate is
>> when I team with DF (ok, just for elaborate purpose), I'm basically
nuking
>> 95% of the time while he stand nearby singing song. I won't blame him
coz
>> it's really very diifficult for him to assist in kill the mobs. 1st most
>> of the mobs are red to him, 2nd he dun have a good weap. H/w, I still
>> enjoy sharing xp with him coz I enjoy his company. Of coz I can simply
>act
>> blur and solo, coz it dun really make much different for me, but DF has
do
>> me a big favor during my newbie time and I really dun mind sharing my xp
>> with him. I think this is the other element which we will come across
>when
>> playing EQ - friendship.
>> DF ever to come all the way from Felwithe to escort me to get my corpse
>> from mino cave and lead me back to Felwithe during my 1st trip to
>> Steamfont. He was killed at lesser Faydark when we meet with a train of
>> orcs half way thru the journey. If u guys hunt with him often, u will
>> notice DF always LD at night, and given the fact that he almost logout
>that
>> night and change him mind after getting my seek help msg, I will never
>> forget his kindness. That's why until now I will try my very best to
help
>> him, and hopefully contribute back to those who ever help me (Leshrec,
>> Garren, YY etc). OPs, side track more than YY liao, pai seh, hahaha.
>>
>> YY, let organise a Paw/Permfrost trip tonight if HH is flooded with
>> stealers again? I'm the first one who is more than willing to follow.
>I've
>> been begging around for pple to bring me to Paw, heard too much of the
>> goodies there, yet fairly safe for group hunting. I propose we form 2
>> groups there -the higher lvls protect and help the lower lvls to get some
>> descent equipments.
>>
>> Someone train a damn SOWer pls, hahahahahahah ;-?
>>
>> Ziltus
>>
>> On Tuesday, 06 July, 1999 4:58 PM, Alex [SMTP:leealex@...]
>> wrote:
>> > From: "Alex" <leealex@...>
>> >
>> > Today TriFrost just started a magician Char. He finds its takes too
long
>> to
>> > Solo-Lvl at 16th for a Shaman. I dont blame him,casters will find it
>more
>> > diff to Solo when they get higer lvl. I have read that monks too will
>> have
>> > some diff. when monks reach 25th. it going to be tougher. Con' msg
>> changes
>> > again to 2 types of Green, 3-4 types of Blue msg.
>> >
>> > EQ being a Group game will "force" player to be group and team. An
"old"
>> EQ
>> > monk friend name "Chien" whom started off the same time as me is now a
>> Lvl
>> > 36th monk. He been trying to avoid being "guilded" into a Guild. But
now
>> is
>> > with the "Apo Knights" becos his regualr Kakis r in that Guild and I
>> noticed
>> > a slowed down on his lvling , my guess is that so he could "group" with
>> his
>> > buddies , partly also is get tougher to lvl as u go higer.
>> >
>> > the following parargrah is not about xp lvling is bout soloing and
>> enjoying
>> > killin the nasties that u like to kill over and over again. 8-)
>> > I had tried a "back-ward" lvling trick(original idea) to hit nasties
>that
>> > cons Green to me at 19th lvl but r Blue at 18th. I max out melee skills
>> at
>> > 19th on the first bubble. Commited sucide and be killed 3-4 times and
go
>> > back to 18th. I killed the "Blue" nasties easy since my melee is max at
>> 19th
>> > lvl. The purpose is obviously not for xp or lvls. It for easy money and
>> > kills. Now i've tried this on lvl 20th it didnt work too well since i
>got
>> a
>> > new skill, "Eagle strike" on this lvl. When i backward lvl. I "Lost"
>that
>> > new Skill, since "Eagle Strike" is not avaible for lvl 19.Ok i have
>side
>> > Tracked. sorri.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions to overcome some of the Soloing problem?
>> > Perhaps more informal expeditions and Gatherings need to be organise,
>not
>> > only for weekends but any other days. Need not be to new far away
>places.
>> > Some where need by with decent loot and decent xp. Whats imporatant is
>> the
>> > enjoyment.
>> >
>> > ANy one for Paw or Permfrost?
>> >
>> >
>> > Yiyang at FP
>> >
>> >
>> >
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