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Message ID: 1008
Date: Tue Jul 6 14:14:29 BST 1999
Author: Synzzz
Subject: Re: Solo'ing
----- Original Message -----
From: LKW <leekw13@...>
To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Solo'ing
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
> It's very sad to see Trifrost changing sex, ops, I mean changing class,
> hehe. I'll missed all the good old days of having free SOWing ;)
>
> From my personal experience, my hardest days as a wiz is between lvl 6-11.
> This is the time where our dd spell sux, our melee sux, we cant steal, we
> cant block, we cant melee and has to live like a parasite begging everyone
> to let us tag along, haha (loss count of how many times I spaming the zone
> shouting for group and no one ever reply). After lvl 12, we start to pick
> up some face with the more 'presentable' shock spell, and our market value
> incease with lvl 16 lighing shock spell. I heard at lvl 20, we will start
> to get our very 1st mana efficient 'mass dd' spell - force shiok, ops I
> mean shock, hehe. Maybe Leshrec can elaborate more on this. ;)
>
> I've been teaming with a magi and a bard since lvl 8 - Flyingfox and
> Deadflower. DF's song has save our butts many times but he is now having
> his hardest day finding a magical weap to attack mobs tat can only be
> hurted by magic means. His melee is also lossing out when comparing with
> paladin/shadowknight/warriors. For the past 2 night DF has died at least
2
> times trying to tank in the group. Fox also start to face a hard time
> losing kills to those wiz of similar lvl. According to Sereph, magi will
> have a hard time getting their summoning spells from lvl 16 onwards, necro
> from lvl 20+ and wiz from lvl 30+ onwards.
>
> On the other hand I feel I'm playing at the peak of my wiz life so far,
coz
> with the shieldskin, invis and root, I have no problem travelling and
> fighting a mob white or sometime yellow to me. Of coz, I still need a
> group for long term survival, but I start to feel the joy of playing as a
> wiz. I remember the days I whine alot of been a weakling wiz during
newbie
> time coz I've so much problem in both soloing and grouping - very often
I'm
> the first one who died in a group ;) Now I feel I have to ability to solo
> at times when I cant find a good team to join. (Hopefully I dun have to
> whine again at higher lvl, hehe).
>
> I ever mentioned abt an articles I read on UOVault or UOSS abt soloing,
> which the author ranking the race/class combo best for soloing in the
> following order:
> - Troll anything
> - Wiz
> - Shaman
> - Dwarven Cleric
> - Monk
> He also mentioned monk, been the lowest in soloing order, will ultimately
> become the easiest to solo above lvl 30. Dunno if this is still true, but
> I just hope wiz remains to be a possible choice for soloing at high lvl.
>
> Last night there is a big stealing party at HH. 90% of the participants
> are pure casters, and melee chars all have to stand aside, hehe. Even
> combining Ling (lvl 18 wiz), Fox (lvl 17 magi) and I, we only have a 50%
> successful rate in getting a kill (well we are competing with lvl 20s
> there). Frankly speaking if thing con't to stay on like tat, I would
> rather hunt at oasis orc camp, thou the loot is much more lousy and
> inconvenient due to the wulu wulu location.
>
> Come to think of it, I dun think TF is taking too long lvling his shaman,
> coz he has MIA for quite a while. If he find it too long, then he shld
> compare me and Les - which I'm at one time 6 to 7 lvl lag behind him coz
of
> house shifting - dun forget Les is also training his necro while I only
> focusing on 1 char.
>
> No doubt a magi can solo well, coz he's like a provisional shop keeper
with
> most of the stuffs avilable at his summoning. H/w, I think we have to
> consider 2 sides of soloing - roleplaying aspect and realplaying aspect.
> As a magi, u can have all the supplies at a wave of ya hand, but when it
> come to hunting and lvling, you still need somone to tank, someone to nuke
> for u. A soloing magi will get no where at high lvl, coz wiz will steal
> from u, tankers can last longer than u, and worse, half of ya XP goes to
ya
> pet! So I will consider magi a very good choice for roleplaying but not
> REALplaying. I guess necro is a better choice for REALplaying, since they
> can dot and drain hp (ie heal). Magi is next to enchanter when coming to
> 'group' caster. I've nothing against it, but hope TF can consider the l/t
> implication instead of just current situation. Yes, the 1st lvl 8 I met
in
> Prexus is a magi and a necro, who guard the Kobold camp whole day with
> their pets. But imagine like a place like HH pass, ya guarding pet only
> provide a tank for those nukers - which they use ya pet to tank them while
> they laughing behind, nuking and stealing ya kill.
>
> EQ is a group game, personally I dun think any of the char I mentioned
> above is a good soloing choice. At most they can only be a good PART-TIME
> soloer, where u can still do a bit soloing when you dun feel like teaming
> with others sometime (err who knows? some gals are in bad mood certain
> time of the month, hehe).
>
> At least we have a big pool of local kakis which we can rely and dependent
> on, trusty worthy as well. I used to vioce out the loot order when I join
> other groups as a newbie, but now I prefer free loot coz I knew I can
trust
> our own kakis to bahave themselves. With all of us under the same guild,
I
> dun think we will encounter much problem getting a descent group using the
> guildsay.
>
> As for the backward trick, it's not working for casters. Once we lose a
> lvl, we lose the mana, which reduce our casting ability. Losing a lvl at
> those critical lvl where we gain new spells will disable us to cast the
new
> spells, even if I've memo it (already try it, not on purpose but I always
> seem to die the moment I gain the lvl to cast new spells, hehe).
>
> I agreed with YY abt sometime we tends to slow down abit when grouping.
> When I gain my last bubb of xp at lvl 18, I only need an hr, where I took
> whole Sunday grouping with others to gain 4 bubb, and mind u, I'm playing
> the 'legal' nuking for my last bubb of xp. The worse time-vs-xp rate is
> when I team with DF (ok, just for elaborate purpose), I'm basically nuking
> 95% of the time while he stand nearby singing song. I won't blame him coz
> it's really very diifficult for him to assist in kill the mobs. 1st most
> of the mobs are red to him, 2nd he dun have a good weap. H/w, I still
> enjoy sharing xp with him coz I enjoy his company. Of coz I can simply
act
> blur and solo, coz it dun really make much different for me, but DF has do
> me a big favor during my newbie time and I really dun mind sharing my xp
> with him. I think this is the other element which we will come across
when
> playing EQ - friendship.
> DF ever to come all the way from Felwithe to escort me to get my corpse
> from mino cave and lead me back to Felwithe during my 1st trip to
> Steamfont. He was killed at lesser Faydark when we meet with a train of
> orcs half way thru the journey. If u guys hunt with him often, u will
> notice DF always LD at night, and given the fact that he almost logout
that
> night and change him mind after getting my seek help msg, I will never
> forget his kindness. That's why until now I will try my very best to help
> him, and hopefully contribute back to those who ever help me (Leshrec,
> Garren, YY etc). OPs, side track more than YY liao, pai seh, hahaha.
>
> YY, let organise a Paw/Permfrost trip tonight if HH is flooded with
> stealers again? I'm the first one who is more than willing to follow.
I've
> been begging around for pple to bring me to Paw, heard too much of the
> goodies there, yet fairly safe for group hunting. I propose we form 2
> groups there -the higher lvls protect and help the lower lvls to get some
> descent equipments.
>
> Someone train a damn SOWer pls, hahahahahahah ;-?
>
> Ziltus
>
> On Tuesday, 06 July, 1999 4:58 PM, Alex [SMTP:leealex@...]
> wrote:
> > From: "Alex" <leealex@...>
> >
> > Today TriFrost just started a magician Char. He finds its takes too long
> to
> > Solo-Lvl at 16th for a Shaman. I dont blame him,casters will find it
more
> > diff to Solo when they get higer lvl. I have read that monks too will
> have
> > some diff. when monks reach 25th. it going to be tougher. Con' msg
> changes
> > again to 2 types of Green, 3-4 types of Blue msg.
> >
> > EQ being a Group game will "force" player to be group and team. An "old"
> EQ
> > monk friend name "Chien" whom started off the same time as me is now a
> Lvl
> > 36th monk. He been trying to avoid being "guilded" into a Guild. But now
> is
> > with the "Apo Knights" becos his regualr Kakis r in that Guild and I
> noticed
> > a slowed down on his lvling , my guess is that so he could "group" with
> his
> > buddies , partly also is get tougher to lvl as u go higer.
> >
> > the following parargrah is not about xp lvling is bout soloing and
> enjoying
> > killin the nasties that u like to kill over and over again. 8-)
> > I had tried a "back-ward" lvling trick(original idea) to hit nasties
that
> > cons Green to me at 19th lvl but r Blue at 18th. I max out melee skills
> at
> > 19th on the first bubble. Commited sucide and be killed 3-4 times and go
> > back to 18th. I killed the "Blue" nasties easy since my melee is max at
> 19th
> > lvl. The purpose is obviously not for xp or lvls. It for easy money and
> > kills. Now i've tried this on lvl 20th it didnt work too well since i
got
> a
> > new skill, "Eagle strike" on this lvl. When i backward lvl. I "Lost"
that
> > new Skill, since "Eagle Strike" is not avaible for lvl 19.Ok i have
side
> > Tracked. sorri.
> >
> > Any suggestions to overcome some of the Soloing problem?
> > Perhaps more informal expeditions and Gatherings need to be organise,
not
> > only for weekends but any other days. Need not be to new far away
places.
> > Some where need by with decent loot and decent xp. Whats imporatant is
> the
> > enjoyment.
> >
> > ANy one for Paw or Permfrost?
> >
> >
> > Yiyang at FP
> >
> >
> >
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