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Message ID: 220
Date: Thu May 6 17:41:29 BST 1999
Author: Whitmore, Lance
Subject: Re: What's missing in Everquest?


forget to add.� its a real-time fully 3d game.� im sure there is a
proformance hit to systems that have low amounts of graphic data storage on
their systems. ie a 4meg card as appose to a 16+ meg video hardware..
�
Ves

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitmore, Lance [mailto:lwhitmore@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:37 PM
To: 'EverQuest@onelist.com'
Subject: Re: [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?



I don't seem to understand what the complaining is about... the speed
between loads is based on a few things.. processor speed, motherboard speed,
hard drive speed, and of course memory..� to keep it short its based on your
system, High ends will switch zones faster than low ends.� Those with fat
pipes will tend to have less overall lag.� When you are inside a zone you
are getting an almost constant stream of data that updates your surrounding
location and zone chat information. on a P200 with a T1 pipe im getting
around a 15sec/or less load time.. On my P2 333 with a 50k modem im getting
around the same load times.�

Overall i dont see a big issue about load times, it doesnt cause an
inconvenience to make an issue. :)

Ves

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel P. Sniderman [ mailto:slide@...]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 12:25 PM
To: EverQuest@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?


From: "Daniel P. Sniderman" <slide@...>

Network speed can not possibly be the sole issue.� The vast majority of us
have extremely similar connection speed between 28800 and 50000 - I would
guess most have V.90 running just under 50000.� While of course upstream is
31200 for V.90 - it's safe to assume the data transfer on "zoning" would be
primarily downstream.� I have heard that people running on fat pipes get
good zone times - so clearly this IS an important issue.

However - those of us without those fat pipes (again the vast majority of
us) notice HUGE discrepancies in zoning times based on speed of the machine.

Ever have a party member running on a 166 machine?� So clearly - there is
also something processor intensive going on here in addition to the
data-transfer.

I'm guessing that there is some sort of code building complex data
structures from the data it is getting from the net.� This would lead me to
believe that with enough memory - there could be something done in code to
store multiple zones in memory...

But of course - only the people with access to the code could answer that
question.

To be honest - I'd be thrilled with a very simple change Verant could put in

with a few lines of code:� get rid of that bloody license agreement that I
have to click accept on EVERY single time I load the game...� Put a switch
in an INI file or something!

Slyde Bard of Xegony


----- Original Message -----
From: <Michael_Wyatt@...>
To: <EverQuest@onelist.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?


> From: Michael_Wyatt@...
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> One point - with the zone loading it is not at all a question of *your*
> loading the zone into memory - if you watch your HD while zoning
> you will notice that it only spends a fraction of that time on actually
> loading things - the rest is network traffic. This is because the zones
> on each server are split up among many different computers.
> >From what I can see, when you zone, the game logs you off the
> current zone server and then logs you into the new zone server
> automatically. This is why sometimes you get kicked back to the
> login screen when you are zoning ( the login to the new zone server
> time outs ) .
>
> It would be nice if it could transfer you straight into the zone if it is
> on the same zone server, but the way it is setup allows for load
> balancing and such which is good ( but damn the wait is
> frustrating 8) )
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> Wizard <wizard@...> on 06/05/99 09:01:26
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> Subject:� [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?
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> From: Wizard <wizard@...>
>
> Everquest is best thing what i see in online gaming, from graphic to sound

> and grup sistem but it still miss much things wich leaves too much place
to
> concurent products to enter.
>
> First it is hard to add new zones or monsters it request huge uploads (
> this can be corrected with addon discs but it is another question),
loading
> of zones is realy messed up if you just exit one zone it takes soooo long
> to reload it again it will be nice to have 2 zones in memory if you have
> enough memory for this (i have 128 mb).
>
> it is concentrated on gruping but too hard for solo play for some classes
> and i dont like to play necromancer or any pet holder, and gruping have
> much flows wich need corection and additional balancing like higer lv
mages
> and wizards.
>
> Also there are too low gains from questing and one thing wich can add much

> to game can be a god questing sistem where many diferent players must
> cooperate to reach some target but for now it is only killing stronger MOB

> and if you spend 5 hours to resolve quest and in end you dont know a right

> word wich you hear on other side of continent you make all way back write
a
> right word on paper go back and say it only to get 1 rusty sword and 5
> copper as a 12 lv caracter not to see any move on your experience bar it
is
> realy bad. i do it 3 times to 3 diferent quests and as i try hardest
things
> what i found and after this reward i lost wish to try again.
>
> to be thrue it will be nice to get experience also for trading skills and
> give them more variants so a posibility to make all normal armours and
> weapons. And it will be nice to have possibility to make a dragon leather
> armour ( hint hint)
>
> It will be nice to have some chests wich thiefs can picklock.
>
> Fishing some other things then normal fishs, or other stramge things like
> boots with a gen in bag with a surprise big fish wich will pull you in
> water and cast summon pirana swarm on you eheheeh
>
> It will be nice to have a place where you can leave your goods to sell and

> where you must pass evry now and then to collect all income or it is lost
> put this place on some lost plane or limit sellers to some level range, i
> wish to buy a totem stah and all mana gain equipment but as im from europe

> and i play normaly when all servers are empty i cannot buy or sell nearly
> anything. and i play on fenin ro wich is all time full. ( hmm maybe i will

> move from rathe mountains not too much people know where this place is
> eheheheh)
>
> It is great and wonderfull world but for now it is a little bit empty it
> needs a soul, a movement a random orc attacks on kelethim, dark elf
rampage
> on freeport, dragon flying in sky in unknown direction, strange never seen

> beast in dark wood to start legends. More inteligence in program to make
> world looks more diferent so that finaly a camping is not more
interesting.
> It is not need for human intervence it can be done by program if you leave

> a orc camp and in zone is many players then why not that orcs group and
> start hunting around geting items from falen (eheheh at last some money so

> bank will get some real signifikance). Other similar products will come
> soon big bad MS is preparing to enter in game on big door ( i just read a
> news on its site it will bring some interesting news) the other players
are
> also on front door for bringing something new soon everquest will not be
> only game in 3d rpg town and if a game is not interesting enough when
> others come in play ? .... ?
>
>
>
> P.S. I like this game very very much and all this critics are only in hope

> that it will give some ideas how to make it better and that i will be
shure
> to play it long long time as i enjoy it now. ( my english is not maxed jet

> sorry)
>
>
>
> Silverion
> High elf wizard (against all statistics eheheeh)
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