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Message ID: 1678
Date: Thu Jul 22 04:17:09 BST 1999
Author: refplace
Subject: Re: about the new enchant items (long rant)
>From: XIII <dlepriol@...>how
>
>
> The problem I foresee is not us becoming overkillers, that never was
>and never will be. But twinking is a very likely possibility. Picture a 20+
>enchanter who group temporarily with a 8-10 tank enchant his stuff and let
>him loose against wisps or whatever. This would be moreso true in the race
>war server, where enchanters are already 1st in the most wanted to be
>played poll. The point wasn't did we deserve it or not, but if we become
>the most popular mage-type after this is put in play (assuming the ability
>is useful not just icing on the cake, which would be demeaning) won't we
>get nerfed in a feeback process?.
>
> Also the first reply stated that there were lots of jewelcrafters who
>were not enchanters. Please tell which is your server for in Karana this is
>totally false. It has been a long while since I saw someone auctionning
>enchanted bars of any kind.
>
>best,
>Ibn
>
>ps : Cogg, what of "Jira"?.
>
>At 17:41 21/07/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>>From: "Garett" <osmosis@...>
>>
>>Personally I'd love to be able to enchant items, but I also have to agree
>>that since we've come this close to being balanced with the other classes
>>(that arent fucked up), we might be asking for trouble. I thought of the
>>problem of there being a sudden surge of magical weapons in norrath and
>>that could completely flood a possible market quite quickly, but I suppose(I'd
>>that could be solved by making enchant : item, ore, weapon very high level
>>spells, and either a lore item/quest item or in a difficult place (or
>>unobvious) place to get it. Then will it make us that much tougher? Well
>>you can certainly imagine there will be a few more people interested in
>>playing enchanters, and personally I think I see enough enchanters now
>>like to be the only one really). We'd be in very high demand, but we havenot
>>gotten that from some other spells like clarity (IMHO our greatest asset
>>unlike SoW). Yeas well you can see how scattered my thinking is today soclass
>>I'm shuttin up. You can pick that apart.
>>
>>Cogg - Rallos Zek (20)
>>
>>
>>btw, what do you think of the last name Zilla? I think its cheezy myself
>>but many seem to like the idea... any suggestions?
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Farr, Robert <robert.farr@...>
>>To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 7:46 AM
>>Subject: RE: [eqenchanters] about the new enchant items (long rant)
>>
>>
>>> From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
>>>
>>> Giving us the ability to enchant items would not add anything to our
>>> to unbalance it vs. other casting classes. It is just a continution ofour
>>> current enchant metals line. It is what our class is about. There arelots
>>> of jewelcrafters out there that aren't enchanters, just as there will bea
>>> lot of people who aren't enchanters crafting magic weapons and armor ifwe
>>> get the ability to enchant ore in the future. This isn't an 'addition'to
>>> our class, this is finally delivering what was promised...in
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: XIII [SMTP:dlepriol@...]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 3:18 AM
>>> > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] about the new enchant items (long rant)
>>> >
>>> > From: XIII <dlepriol@...>
>>> >
>>> > Party pooper, party pooper. Ok you know the song, this time I fill the
>>> > role
>>> > :).
>>> >
>>> > May I point out that the message said that the code was going to be
>>> > implemented, not that -we- enchanters are going to benefit from it.
>>True,
>>> > it was stated in the book we could do it, but at no time in B4 it was
>>> > effect, and, according to EQE, we received other benefits to make upfor
>>> > it.up
>>> >
>>> > As I see it, such thing would overbalance us (enchanters) in regard
>>> > of
>>> > other pure spell user classes. So either the benefit will be too small
>>to
>>> > even consider it or too huge and Verant might take out something in
>>return
>>> > to balance our classe again. Don't tell me we're nerfed now. We were,
>>> > true,
>>> > but that was sometime ago and from my point of view we are rather
>>balanced
>>> > regarding other pure spell users. To sum up we have our "niche".
>>> >
>>> > So, the idea is: By talking here, and offering Verant options to
>>> > consider
>>> > we may have a say in the matter and make our class fuller in the
>>way -we-
>>> > see it. What I would like to see discussed here is : What can we give
>>> > tostill
>>> > have a 'proper' enchantment line of spells?. Or are we just to receive
>>> > this
>>> > new ability/spell/line of spells without giving up anything?.
>>> >
>>> > As stated above, I dont think we can't expect a 'useful' line of
>>> > enchantment's spells unless we give up something in exchange. Thinking
>>> > back
>>> > of Beta, there was a line of spells we didn't have but nonetheless
>>> > managed to survive and prosper : Pet line of spells. Plus they don'tfit
>>> > enchanters very well . On the other hand, this line form the very coreVerant
>>of
>>> > most of our solo strategies so losing it wouldn't be a small thing.
>>> >
>>> > This is just an example, a topic's starter. Feel free to agree,
>>> > disagree
>>> > or tell me to shut up. Once again my aim to to talk things out here
>>first
>>> > and offer something (petition/ EQE/ you name it) constructive to
>>> > before we see something not implemented or half implemented in place.
>>> >
>>> > Best,
>>> > Ibnabeth / Karana
>>> > still going up
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