See more replies below :)
>
> See replies below :)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Sanders [mailto:christopher.sanders@...]
> > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 2:54 PM
> > To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: OT Hardware (was:- RE: [eqbards] New Video Card
> and more Ram -
> > th e results for me...)
> >
> >
> > Grats! Great to hear everything worked out so well!
> >
> > While we're on the topic of hardware...
> >
> > If you decide to buy an Intel P4, you're most likely gonna
> be happy...if,
> > that is, you don't mind spending more. Historically, Intel
> processors are
> > more expensive than AMD processors.
>
> And a bit more reliable (less out-of-the-box failures with Intel)
>
Aye, Ive been an avid Intel fan, but do this still count? I know before K7
AMD had pretty lousy stability and QA. I havent heard about any problems
with k7 series though??
> >
> > Additionally, if you select Intel P4, you will be required to
> > also purchase
> > a new type of memory (RAMBUS - if my memory serves...heh).
> This memory is
> > much, much more expensive than the typical memory you see
> advertised today
> > (eg: $65 for 256MB RAM).
> >
>
> Yeah, RAMBUS is much more expensive, however, Intel is
> working with it's own
> and 3rd party motherboard manufacturers to get SDRAM and DDR
> SDRAM (double
> data rate) mobo's working w/ P4, last I heard, expect them to
> be out before
> Christmas.
>
In the meanwhile NVIDA is working on their own chipset (according to toms
its a byproduct of X-box) which among other nifty things doubles the
bandwith to the memory (using DDR):
http://www.tomshardware.com/mainboard/01q2/0106041/index.html
This mainboard is for the Athlon, btw..
So even if Intel makes the transition to DDRRAM they will still be hard
pressed to keep up with AMD in terms of raw performance.
> > The bottom line is, do your homework before you buy
> computers or computer
> > parts. Pricewatch.com is an excellent source, and I have the
> > Google toolbar
> > as part of my browser. :) Know what you're buying, and what
> > your money is
> > being spent on.
> >
> > Also, don't forget the "arcane" science of overclocking.
> :) With proper
> > cooling, you can get an 800Mhz processor to 1Ghz.
> >
>
> Both pc's I've tried overclocking have caused problems w/
> Everquest. PIII
> 600 overclocked to 800mhz, locks up after any 8 minutes in
> old world zones,
> any 3 minutes in Kunark, never tried w/ velious. AMD hrm...I
> think it was a
> 500 clocked to 675 or 700 or so...would lock up on ANY direct3d
> input/output. Worked great if I never accessed anything
> using directx,
> though.
>
Yeah Ive dropped OC'ing too. However my K7-600 Runs flawlessly at 1024x768
with a ASUS V6800 (GeForce I)
Ive had it running like 800, but it had very little visible impact on EQs
performance (My bottleneck is elsewhere).
So I pulled out some of the extensive cooling and clocked it back down hehe
- The sound from all those fans drove me crazy anyway.
My next project is to build a quiet machine..
> > Feel free to email me directly for directions to the best (IMHO)
> > overclockers info/support site on the internet. :)
>
> If you try this, good luck, hopefully better than mine :) (a
> friend of mine
> has a piii-7xx(?), overclocked to 1.2ghz, plays all manner of
> 3d games, and
> loves it, he's also running 1gb of ram...and about a dozen
> fans in his case)
>
Ugh Dosens of fans, Ill never go there again...
Musiker