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Message ID: 2359
Date: Mon Jun 14 23:00:14 BST 1999
Author: James Dwyer
Subject: Re: Exploits


With this problem you, as a gamer, are in a unique position to state
your right. From now on ASSUME that a game will not be perfect upon
release, wait a few months, watch the message boards, until people
aren't complaining as much. The companies will understand when they
don't get the sales figures until the games are "done" and the dinner
bell rings.

I see your point but we gamers are shooting ourselves in the feet by
buying the games right on release. The anticipation is ours. The hype is
ours. Unfortunately the willpower is NOT ours :P The companies are not
forcing us to buy the games, and they certainly are not claiming they
are "perfect" at release as they continue to update them.

Theres no use complaining to us! We didn't make the game :P The gaming
magazines all recognize this yet the gaming companies still do it. Go
figure.

Croesus Illuminatus (Xegony)

PS I usually wait until games are 20 bucks at Electronics Boutique
before buying them. I used to get burned a lot by the unfinished but now
I get the cool games, and all the patches, in one fell cheap swoop.
*sigh* Some you just can't wait for though...

Sergey Bukhman wrote:
>
> From: Sergey Bukhman <sergeyb@...>
>
> mstokes wrote:
>
> > From: mstokes <mstokes@...>
> >
> > Two things.
> > First, you will never have a project of this magnitude without having some bugs
> > making it to release undiscovered. Software is inherently buggy, its a fact of
> > life, get used to it, you will see it happen more and more.
>
> Being a software designer, I tend to notice that.
>
> >
> > Second, they have stated that people found exploiting a bug will be warned. If they
> > continue to exploit the bug, then they will be punished. Its painfully obvious why
> > they don't list bugs. They don't want to be forced into policing them 24/7. If you
> > stumble onto something that is a blatent bug, report it so that it gets fixed, and
> > move on. If you find something that could go either way, enjoy it until a GM/Guide
> > tells you to stop.
> >
>
> Thing is, they released buggy software. I paid good money for it, and keep paying every
> month.
>
> They should take care of it. Their game. My money. Their problem, not mine. As a
> consumer, I shouldn't even have to think about these things. What happens is that the
> game designers are aware as to how much the gaming public is involved in the process of
> making designing games, so the EXPLOIT us.
>
> Have you ever seen a TV released that only shows prime number channels, with a promise
> to come fix it some time? Ever seen a stove that only heats to 50 degrees with a promise
> to come fix it some time? Ever see a car that only turns left with a promise to come fix
> it some time? No. This happens only in computer software, especially high profile games.
>
> --
> Sergey
> --
> KPS PUNK (Paramilitary Undercover Nuclear Kamikaze)
>
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