Excuse my choice of words.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Carney [mailto:
jcarney@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 9:27 AM
To:
EQ-Monks@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts (whatever)
From: John Carney <
jcarney@...>
Wrong.
That is so arrogant. "Grisok so I could get my red headband no, but
sometimes
you have to do that". Had you said "Grisok so I could get my red headband
no,
but sometimes _I_ have to do that", I would have agreed with you.
I will fight verbally to defend my way of play, to allow me to get the
maximum
enjoyment for my ten dollars. Especially when what I'm doing has no major
effect
on the game play of others.
EvilJohn
"Lombard.Mikhael" wrote:
> From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
>
> Well then if you choose to play outside of the constraints then you have
no
> one to complain to about, because you choose to play this way don't expect
> everyone to do the same, I do not like to sit for an item but sometimes it
> can not be helped, did I like to wait 6 hours for that stupid High Priest
> Grisok so I could get my red headband no, but sometimes you have to do
that.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Carney [mailto:jcarney@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:50 AM
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts (whatever)
>
> From: John Carney <jcarney@...>
>
> 'I hate to break this to you, this game is a camp game, if you want
> something
> then sometimes you have to sit there, sorry until Verant fixes this there
is
> just no other way around it.."
>
> No, I'm trying to tell you differenlty. If your game is to run around and
> acquire items, it is a camp game. I don't want to play a camp game, so I
> have
> taken a different route to allow me enjoy the game as I see fit.
>
> As for "Verant" fixing items, that statement is so far out of line, I
don't
> know
> where to start. You say the word "fix", which implies something is broken
> (not
> working as designed). Well, that simply is not the case, things are
working
> as
> designed. I just choose not to be constrained by those choices.
>
> BTW, I did read your whole post, and I did not choose your words out of
> context,
> your post is anti-twinking, I choose phrases to illustrate that.
>
> EvilJohn
>
> "Lombard.Mikhael" wrote:
>
> > From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> >
> > That is what I am speaking of, and you should really read the whole
thing
> > before taking words out of context, I am not twinked I have received
> > everything I have through my own hard work, and but as for twinking I
do
> not
> > twink nor do I let it affect my enjoyment
> > of my gaming experience. As for playing, I play with my roommate on our
> DSL
> > line and we have a blast, plus we play with the same group of about 12
> > people so I do not know where you feel your the only one who enjoys
being
> > with people that you have known for more than just the life of the game.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Carney [mailto:jcarney@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:29 AM
> > To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts (whatever)
> >
> > From: John Carney <jcarney@...>
> >
> > "Nice spread" - "Worked damn hard" - "nothing to look forward too".
> >
> > Whatever. These are all words and phrases that bother me.
> >
> > I think I'm going to throw up all over my cloth shoes. I have a some
> twinked
> > items, no doubt about it. Among my favorites are the Serp Braces given
to
> me
> > by
> > a dear real life friend when I first broke level ten.
> >
> > Do not presume to tell me how to enjoy MY game paid for with MY MONEY.
If
> > your
> > idea of fun is waiting around, camping out a certain area for some piece
> of
> > equipment, be my guest, but DO NOT ASSUME everyone else has that same
> sense
> > of
> > fun.
> >
> > I do not, and never will attach any amount of significance to the
> > acquisition of
> > items THAT ARE NOT REAL. If I could play this game naked, without any
> > inventory
> > at all, I would. This is one of the reasons I choose the Monk class. I
> > detest
> > the idea of running all over the universe begging to group with some
other
> > players, using each other to just get a new piece of armor. If I were
> forced
> > to
> > do that, I would not be "around too much longer".
> >
> > As it stands now, I am having the most fun leveling my monk, attempting
to
> > reach
> > a point in the game where I can adventure with my friends who purchased
> the
> > game
> > two or three months before I did. I want to play with them, sitting in
> their
> > office till 3 am, playing on their T1, drinking beer, while we all are
> > gaming
> > Together, not merely on the same server.
> >
> > Stonedorn - Xegony - 15th Oval
> > ---------------------------------
> > John M. Carney - EvilJohn EFNet @#quake - http://www.eviljohn.net/
> >
> > "Lombard.Mikhael" wrote:
> >
> > > From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> > >
> > > I think another idea about the level limits could be the con system,
if
> > you
> > > con certain level and you do not get experience from them, the same
> should
> > > work in reverse for items, level groups should work for instance 1-5
> 5-15
> > > 15-25 25-35 35-50 or something of the like. That would solve a lot of
> > those
> > > problems, but in my real opinion, I just really love this game, it may
> be
> > > because I am still so new, haven't even got past my first month and my
> > 19th
> > > (almost 20th Level) Monk is my pride and joy. I really enjoy when
people
> > > look at my gear and say nice spread, I worked damn hard for my stuff
and
> > it
> > > is my own personnel satisfaction I get from my character. If I see
> someone
> > > else who is twinked, I think that's good for them, I hope they enjoy
> that
> > > because I know they will enjoyment of the game for they have nothing
to
> > look
> > > forward too, so those people won't be around too much longer.
> > >
> > > Kaladiel
> > > 19th Season
> > > Brell Serilius
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bennett, Brian [mailto:BRIAN.BENNETT@...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:04 AM
> > > To: 'EQ-Monks@onelist.com'
> > > Subject: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts, continued
> > >
> > > From: "Bennett, Brian" <BRIAN.BENNETT@...>
> > >
> > > I have to agree with Praelor. I don't know *why* twinking bothers me.
> I
> > > don't deny it is perhaps partial jealousy. Hell yes I would like
level
> > 40+
> > > armor to start out with! I'm level 20 and I'd take it now!
> > >
> > > But I think what really gets me is the unfair (And it is) advantage
that
> > the
> > > twinkers get over a non-twinked same level person. Now perhaps that
the
> > > advantage is more of a psycological thing.. i.e. I *think* they have a
> > > better chance than me. But I feel that if I'm standing beside a level
> 20
> > > monk with high level gear and me with my low level gear, I feel like
the
> > > monk is going to be able to fight better and for longer without
downtime
> > > because of his ill gotten gear. I haven't seen any "studies" to back
up
> > my
> > > feelings, but it just makes sense to me :)
> > >
> > > And I don't want to open the "If you want better gear go get it" can
of
> > > worms. I get the best that me and my group can get. In a group of
> 10-12
> > > people, we have to balance out quest items - it's only fair. So that
is
> > not
> > > an option, so to speak.
> > >
> > > Simple solution (And I like it no matter what anyone says) Make gear
> > start
> > > to have a level requirement. If that "Glowing Baseball cap of Might"
> > comes
> > > from a level 40 MoB, then only a level 35+ can wear it.
> > >
> > > I think the thing that bothers me the most about EQ is the money
> > situation.
> > > The greed factor has almost turned it into a UO-type situation. I
> realize
> > > this is a total tangent, but how many of you have actually had to turn
> OFF
> > > the auction channel on a non-bazaar day? I hate it. I hate greed.
I'm
> > > level 20 and I have 15 pp to my name. But that's just me and I could
be
> > > stupid :)
> > >
> > > Back to the twinking issue, I see one more factor: My over developed
> > sense
> > > of injustice. If I had to work so hard to get what I have, what gives
> Mr.
> > > Twinkee the right to get everything handed to him? Actually, now that
I
> > > think about it, it is the sense of injustice. Jealousy is just a
> > mitigating
> > > factor :)
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