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-----Original Message-----
From: Bennett, Brian [mailto:
BRIAN.BENNETT@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 8:40 AM
To: '
EQ-Monks@onelist.com'
Subject: RE: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts (whatever)
From: "Bennett, Brian" <
BRIAN.BENNETT@...>
No one was presuming to tell you anything. We were discussing why it
(twinking) bothered us. Perhaps most heavy twinkers are in that same boat
you are - friends are way ahead of them as far as levels go and they need
every chance they can to catch up.
But someone did ask why Twinking bothered us so much, and I gave an honest
answer without trying to force anyone to conform to my POV.
And if you don't attach any significance to items that aren't real why the
hostile response? I honestly took the time and read this through - and
perhaps mistakingly I did pick up on an anger vibe. :) I've found when
people start shouting MY GAME MY MONEY MY TIME that some nerve has been hit.
Camping is a sad fact of the online genre now. UO, EQ and AC (From what
little I've been able to actually get in) all have spawn points. People
needing money or items are going to find out where they are and camp the
site. But basically it seems that the view you've taken is screw camping,
this <Insert your own word here> isn't real, I don't care about ITEMS THAT
ARE NOT REAL - but screw anyone who complains about these things being given
to me. If you couldn't give a crap about ITEMS THAT ARE NOT REAL then why
not give me your Serp Bracers? :)
And as far as the "Working damn hard" "nice spread" comments you made: If
this is all just some mixed up little insignificant universe that matters
nothing to you - go into the character selection screen, pick your Monk that
has all those ITEMS THAT ARE NOT REAL, and click "Delete"
-----Original Message-----
From: John Carney [mailto:
jcarney@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 11:29 AM
To:
EQ-Monks@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts (whatever)
From: John Carney <
jcarney@...>
"Nice spread" - "Worked damn hard" - "nothing to look forward too".
Whatever. These are all words and phrases that bother me.
I think I'm going to throw up all over my cloth shoes. I have a some twinked
items, no doubt about it. Among my favorites are the Serp Braces given to me
by
a dear real life friend when I first broke level ten.
Do not presume to tell me how to enjoy MY game paid for with MY MONEY. If
your
idea of fun is waiting around, camping out a certain area for some piece of
equipment, be my guest, but DO NOT ASSUME everyone else has that same sense
of
fun.
I do not, and never will attach any amount of significance to the
acquisition of
items THAT ARE NOT REAL. If I could play this game naked, without any
inventory
at all, I would. This is one of the reasons I choose the Monk class. I
detest
the idea of running all over the universe begging to group with some other
players, using each other to just get a new piece of armor. If I were forced
to
do that, I would not be "around too much longer".
As it stands now, I am having the most fun leveling my monk, attempting to
reach
a point in the game where I can adventure with my friends who purchased the
game
two or three months before I did. I want to play with them, sitting in their
office till 3 am, playing on their T1, drinking beer, while we all are
gaming
Together, not merely on the same server.
Stonedorn - Xegony - 15th Oval
---------------------------------
John M. Carney - EvilJohn EFNet @#quake -
http://www.eviljohn.net/
"Lombard.Mikhael" wrote:
> From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
>
> I think another idea about the level limits could be the con system, if
you
> con certain level and you do not get experience from them, the same should
> work in reverse for items, level groups should work for instance 1-5 5-15
> 15-25 25-35 35-50 or something of the like. That would solve a lot of
those
> problems, but in my real opinion, I just really love this game, it may be
> because I am still so new, haven't even got past my first month and my
19th
> (almost 20th Level) Monk is my pride and joy. I really enjoy when people
> look at my gear and say nice spread, I worked damn hard for my stuff and
it
> is my own personnel satisfaction I get from my character. If I see someone
> else who is twinked, I think that's good for them, I hope they enjoy that
> because I know they will enjoyment of the game for they have nothing to
look
> forward too, so those people won't be around too much longer.
>
> Kaladiel
> 19th Season
> Brell Serilius
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bennett, Brian [mailto:BRIAN.BENNETT@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:04 AM
> To: 'EQ-Monks@onelist.com'
> Subject: [EQ-Monks] Twinking thoughts, continued
>
> From: "Bennett, Brian" <BRIAN.BENNETT@...>
>
> I have to agree with Praelor. I don't know *why* twinking bothers me. I
> don't deny it is perhaps partial jealousy. Hell yes I would like level
40+
> armor to start out with! I'm level 20 and I'd take it now!
>
> But I think what really gets me is the unfair (And it is) advantage that
the
> twinkers get over a non-twinked same level person. Now perhaps that the
> advantage is more of a psycological thing.. i.e. I *think* they have a
> better chance than me. But I feel that if I'm standing beside a level 20
> monk with high level gear and me with my low level gear, I feel like the
> monk is going to be able to fight better and for longer without downtime
> because of his ill gotten gear. I haven't seen any "studies" to back up
my
> feelings, but it just makes sense to me :)
>
> And I don't want to open the "If you want better gear go get it" can of
> worms. I get the best that me and my group can get. In a group of 10-12
> people, we have to balance out quest items - it's only fair. So that is
not
> an option, so to speak.
>
> Simple solution (And I like it no matter what anyone says) Make gear
start
> to have a level requirement. If that "Glowing Baseball cap of Might"
comes
> from a level 40 MoB, then only a level 35+ can wear it.
>
> I think the thing that bothers me the most about EQ is the money
situation.
> The greed factor has almost turned it into a UO-type situation. I realize
> this is a total tangent, but how many of you have actually had to turn OFF
> the auction channel on a non-bazaar day? I hate it. I hate greed. I'm
> level 20 and I have 15 pp to my name. But that's just me and I could be
> stupid :)
>
> Back to the twinking issue, I see one more factor: My over developed
sense
> of injustice. If I had to work so hard to get what I have, what gives Mr.
> Twinkee the right to get everything handed to him? Actually, now that I
> think about it, it is the sense of injustice. Jealousy is just a
mitigating
> factor :)
>
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