will do. A question tho... if this is the case, why then do many monks say
we need more damage dealing ability? Because they are not out-damaging
everyone in sight? I have no problem with my role in group situations
changing as my abilities change.. Actually I think they should. I know I
would get fairly bored if my role from lvl 1-50 was static. It is the whole
reason I dumped my lvl 18 warrior. I never saw any change in what would be
expected of the class. The original post I responded to said most groups
seek monks for their pulling ability. Well, lets take a look at what the
other classes are sought after for:
Cleric- healing
Druid- ok.. bad example, they do alot of things
Shaman- buffing (and see druid)
Wiz- blasting
War- soaking and dealing damage
Ranger- dealing damage
Enchanter- debuffing
rogue- backstabbing
Mag- ummm never grouped with one so I am not sure.
Necro- DoT
All classes (except Druid and Shaman) have one thing they are outstanding
at, and other things they do ok, and some things they just plain stink at.
Why is it bad to be sought after because we are the best pullers in the
lands? Should Rogues be upset that the only thing anyone ever expects of
them is to backstab? The point I am trying rather long-windedly to make is
that while there are many abilities we do not have, the ones we do have are
vital in a group situation, which is how EQ was designed to be played (I
won't go into the whole solo vs group issue, as I am sure each of us has a
different opinion). Regardless of what class is played, if you know what
your strengths and weaknesses are and utilize them accordingly, you will be
a sought after party member.
But thanks for the info on the perception and ability change that comes with
30. I look forward to finding yet another facet of the monk class.
Safe travels
Praelor Dileasai
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Red Eyes [SMTP:puckhoog@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 10:01 AM
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Suggested monk improvements
>
> From: "Red Eyes" <puckhoog@...>
>
> Your entire opinion will change once you hit 30th level. You will start
> outdamaging almost everyone. I am in the high 40s and have outdamaged 3
> 50th
> Paladins. We are a great tank AC goes up every level as Defense goes up
> and
> we dont have to hunt down all kinds of crap for armor. attacking 4 times
> in
> a round and hitting for 30 to 50 points each shot and then kicking for 90+
> you will pull almost anything off a party member...clerics...in no time.
> Give it some more time and I think you will see that all this changes.
>
> Heldenfeld
> 47th monk
> Solusek Ro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robb Flynn <RobF@...>
> To: <EQ-Monks@onelist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 4:16 AM
> Subject: RE: [EQ-Monks] Suggested monk improvements
>
>
> > From: Robb Flynn <RobF@...>
> >
> > I for one like the current damage we do. I don't think we should be
> > out-damaging a warrior swinging a big 2h weapon or dual wielding, and I
> > don't want to. They have the ac and the hp to protect them from those
> 50+
> > damage blows that would chew us up in very little time. I have always
> been
> > of the belief that the monk is NOT a tank. Our armor limitations prevent
> us
> > from acting like one. With one MoB, we are fine as Dodge and Block will
> > serve us well, but if we get hit, we get hit HARD. With 2 or more MoB's,
> our
> > Dodge and Block skill will not serve us nearly as well. We are more like
> an
> > animated DoT spell, inflicting a steady amount of damage throughout the
> > duration of a fight. Few people can dish out the damage we can yet
> remain
> > relatively unmolested. A drawback is it is very difficult to pull a MoB
> off
> > a party member who is in trouble, and perhaps I would enjoy having a
> Taunt
> > skill (no I don't think it is built into our special attacks), but I for
> one
> > think the Monk class on the whole is doing just fine.
> >
> > Praelor Dileasai
> > lvl 27 Monk of the Ashen Order
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Felizpunk@... [SMTP:Felizpunk@...]
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 2:58 AM
> > > To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> > > Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Suggested monk improvements
> > >
> > > From: Felizpunk@...
> > >
> > >
> > > Lots of good points brought up in this discussion.
> > > I agree completely that we should get some kind of stunning attack,
> and
> > > that
> > > our delay should beat most, if not all, weapons. As a very
> well-equipped
> > > monk
> > > at lvl 40, I am routinely outdamaged by Ogre and Troll warriors, to
> say
> > > nothing of casters. So, though we have some unique abilities, monks
> could
> > > certainly stand some improvement. On my server, monks are sought
> primarily
> > > as
> > > pullers rather than combatants, b/c of Feign pulling...
> > > But until we get organized, and talk to Verant in some organized
> manner,
> > > we
> > > will get very little...
> > >
> > > Catsup Bustardo
> > > Cazic-Thule
> > >
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