whoohoo another twinking thread!!!
At 04:33 PM 2/10/00 -0500, you wrote:
>From: James W Hooper <jhooper@...>
>
>
> >Twinkers RIGHTS!
> >
> >I would say that I have earned my right to twink. ALL of you playing the
> game
> >today, owe me and all the other pioneers a debt of gratitude. Who do you
>think
this is garbage. why do i have to earn the right to twink? i can twink
whenever
i want. i don't owe you anything.
> >writes all those quest walk throughs? How is that you came by that
>knowledge of
> >exactly where that item is dropped? You take for granted the fact that
>you can
> >walk into a dungeon, hang out by the zone and auction for a group, but
> when I
> >hit level 30 ( and I was one of the first to do - way back in March! ) I
>spent
> >lots and lots and lots of deaths figuring out the dungeons all over
>NOrrath. I
> >was in FuLL Bronze back then and VERY VERY VERY proud of it! I weilded a
>Black
> >iron Bastard sword (Ghoulbane had not been found yet) and I thought I was DA
> >BOMB! This is NEWBIE gear now a days, largely due to the deflationary
>influence
> >of the pioneering players trading off their old equipment and
> discovering the
> >spawns so that everyone knows how/where to camp the items.
yah right. or maybe due to the fact that 100 new bronze pieces enter the
economy every day on every server just in unrest. this is the real
deflationary
influence not the original players. and what does this have to do with
twinking?
if older players are twinking newer characters they are not trading off old
equipment and are actually contributing to INflation.
> >
> >Every player today, even the untwinked ones, owes a lot to the pioneers.
>You can
> >BUY items at a trade bazaar at unbelievably cheap prices, these are the same
> >items I would have spent HOURS searching for the spawn, or xp dying while
> >learning how to pull the area. YOu take for granted the fact that you can
>pick
> >up a serp bracer for 200pp, a BIBS for 500pp, bronze armor at 6pp a peice!
> >These were once *status* items that would probably not have even been
>traded for
> >6 or 7 months ago.
so 6 or 7 months ago. let's just use bronze armor as an example. 100 pieces
a day out of unrest. that's 3000 pieces per month. or 18000 to 21000 in 6
or 7
months. nah, creating 20000 new pieces of bronze (just in one zone, mind you)
couldn't have anything to do with the price of bronze falling so rapidly.
> >
> >Excuse me If I want to just take some of the excess items I have
> acccumulated
> >over the months ( and once you start going to the PoF/HATE/etc you will
>start to
> >PILE stuff up!) and creat a Uber character of my choosing! I have
> invested 9
> >months into my first character, I dont see it as fair to require me to
> invest
> >ANOTHER 9 months in a new one!
well does this refer to powerlevelling or twinking? not sure
here. twinking alone won't
cut a lot of time out of those 9 months. if anything it may be worse now
cuz there
are many more people on the server. you won't be able to go to your pet spots
and have them to yourself all the time.
> >
>
>I am sorry, but is this discussion about twinking or the fact that you
>started playing the game before I did? It sounds like you have some issues
>to deal with here and are very hostile about this discussion. I started
>this thread as an intelleuctual discussion, not a flame war. Twinkers have
>no more rights than Kill stealers in my estimation. Do you feel that we
>who started after you automatically owe you repsect because you have played
>a GAME longer than we have? I don't think so. I, too, spend my time in
>dungeons, dying and dying again, in the search for elusive items and
>experience. Items and experience are becoming harder and harder to find
>due to server overcrowding and spawn camping. To me, you were lucky that
>you didn't have to deal with people camping spawning points early in the
>life of the game. It was probably easier for you to find creatures of the
>appropriate level. When I go out looking, I often find that people will
>jump on monsters, yelling "Mine! Mine", like some 2 year old, because they
>need the XP or the items. Do not make assupmtions about me. I do not take
>for granted that I can buy serp bracers for 200pp or any of the other
>things. Why? Because I play this game for adventuring purposes. At 17th
>level, I figured that the 200 pp I had stashed away would last me quite a
>while. That is 200pp I earned the hard way. No one gave it to me. It is
>twinking that is one of the causes of the drop in prices for items. If
>every 6th level character has access ti items intended for a 20th level
>character, those items will decrease in value. As for the fact that you
>shouldn't have to invest 9 months into a new character: Why not? Are you
>afraid that you will get bored? You already have intimate knowledge of
>most of the areas of the world that you can use to your advantage. Why
>should you add the capability of walking around with items that your
>character would never have had to chance to obtain? To be honest, I do not
>have a problem with a character getting a sword or a piece of armor from
>someone, even another of the PCs that a player owns.. There are plenty of
>historical and fantasy based accounts of this, but when someone steps onto
>the stage, a new character, decked out in itmes that should belong to a
>10th level or 20th level or 30th level characters, it really cheeses those
>of us who are trying to earn the items legitimately. Every item that goes
>into a twinkers hands, is one less that I or another honest player can earn.
oh whine whine whine. i've heard this argument and it is lame. maybe you
don't understand the meaning of the word ''legitimately''. here's an example,
i have a level 38 bard. i camp the frenzy for experience. i get lucky and get
a fbss. now my bard is pretty well decked out until i can go to the planes.
there's a few things i want, but nothing major. now let me get this
straight. if
i wear this fbss, i have gotten it legitimately. if i give it to my 16th
level monk
i have not? give me a break. how is me giving it to my monk instead of
wearing it myself taking it out of your hands. if you got your ass up and went
to lower guk and camped the frenzy maybe you'd have a chance to
''legitimately''
get it yourself. the other lame thing you say is ''one less that I or
another honest
player can earn''. are you implying that twinking is ''dishonest''? hmm
maybe i
should give you a dictionary, you sure seem to be unclear on what these words
mean. if this really ''cheeses'' you, maybe you are taking this game way too
seriously.
>Shando
>
>
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