>Twinkers RIGHTS!
>
>I would say that I have earned my right to twink. ALL of you playing the game
>today, owe me and all the other pioneers a debt of gratitude. Who do you
think
>writes all those quest walk throughs? How is that you came by that
knowledge of
>exactly where that item is dropped? You take for granted the fact that
you can
>walk into a dungeon, hang out by the zone and auction for a group, but when I
>hit level 30 ( and I was one of the first to do - way back in March! ) I
spent
>lots and lots and lots of deaths figuring out the dungeons all over
NOrrath. I
>was in FuLL Bronze back then and VERY VERY VERY proud of it! I weilded a
Black
>iron Bastard sword (Ghoulbane had not been found yet) and I thought I was DA
>BOMB! This is NEWBIE gear now a days, largely due to the deflationary
influence
>of the pioneering players trading off their old equipment and discovering the
>spawns so that everyone knows how/where to camp the items.
>
>Every player today, even the untwinked ones, owes a lot to the pioneers.
You can
>BUY items at a trade bazaar at unbelievably cheap prices, these are the same
>items I would have spent HOURS searching for the spawn, or xp dying while
>learning how to pull the area. YOu take for granted the fact that you can
pick
>up a serp bracer for 200pp, a BIBS for 500pp, bronze armor at 6pp a peice!
>These were once *status* items that would probably not have even been
traded for
>6 or 7 months ago.
>
>Excuse me If I want to just take some of the excess items I have acccumulated
>over the months ( and once you start going to the PoF/HATE/etc you will
start to
>PILE stuff up!) and creat a Uber character of my choosing! I have invested 9
>months into my first character, I dont see it as fair to require me to invest
>ANOTHER 9 months in a new one!
>
I am sorry, but is this discussion about twinking or the fact that you
started playing the game before I did? It sounds like you have some issues
to deal with here and are very hostile about this discussion. I started
this thread as an intelleuctual discussion, not a flame war. Twinkers have
no more rights than Kill stealers in my estimation. Do you feel that we
who started after you automatically owe you repsect because you have played
a GAME longer than we have? I don't think so. I, too, spend my time in
dungeons, dying and dying again, in the search for elusive items and
experience. Items and experience are becoming harder and harder to find
due to server overcrowding and spawn camping. To me, you were lucky that
you didn't have to deal with people camping spawning points early in the
life of the game. It was probably easier for you to find creatures of the
appropriate level. When I go out looking, I often find that people will
jump on monsters, yelling "Mine! Mine", like some 2 year old, because they
need the XP or the items. Do not make assupmtions about me. I do not take
for granted that I can buy serp bracers for 200pp or any of the other
things. Why? Because I play this game for adventuring purposes. At 17th
level, I figured that the 200 pp I had stashed away would last me quite a
while. That is 200pp I earned the hard way. No one gave it to me. It is
twinking that is one of the causes of the drop in prices for items. If
every 6th level character has access ti items intended for a 20th level
character, those items will decrease in value. As for the fact that you
shouldn't have to invest 9 months into a new character: Why not? Are you
afraid that you will get bored? You already have intimate knowledge of
most of the areas of the world that you can use to your advantage. Why
should you add the capability of walking around with items that your
character would never have had to chance to obtain? To be honest, I do not
have a problem with a character getting a sword or a piece of armor from
someone, even another of the PCs that a player owns.. There are plenty of
historical and fantasy based accounts of this, but when someone steps onto
the stage, a new character, decked out in itmes that should belong to a
10th level or 20th level or 30th level characters, it really cheeses those
of us who are trying to earn the items legitimately. Every item that goes
into a twinkers hands, is one less that I or another honest player can earn.
Shando