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Message ID: 547
Date: Mon Jun 14 11:38:10 BST 1999
Author: Sereph
Subject: Re: Analysis Version 2.


5458743 - Garford/Sereph

Leshrec wrote:

> btw, should we have a singapore eq ICQ list?That way we can contact
> each other easier, rather than loading up eq to see whos online and
> all.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sereph <garford@...>
> To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Analysis Version 2.
> More like every few seconds. I'm waiting impatiently for my
> dinner so replying e-mails in the mean time
>
> Leshrec wrote:
>
> > From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
> >
> > I would say the gnomish wizard would be better in stats
> > than the de wiz, but
> > talking bout outwards look, i think dark elf looks nicer.
> > ) However, being a
> > wiz, its kinda bad playing a de, since playing another
> > race is better cos of
> > the faction thing. Some classes cannot be avoided, in
> > reference to faction
> > such as necro or shadow knight since most ppl will not
> > like u anyways.
> > btw, you guys are responding very fast, are u all checking
> > mail every 5
> > mins?
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 6:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Analysis Version 2.
> >
> > >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >
> > >Disagree. Talk abt total DEX and AGI, gnome is 5 points
> > more. Talk abt
> > >INT, gnome is one point more.
> > >
> > >Gnome also got nightvision, thou it's not ultravision.
> > But at lvl 12, wiz
> > >will get the ligh band spell which is a head band with
> > light of large
> > >lightstone plus ac 3.
> > >
> > >Talk abt faction, gnome has the best faction with other
> > races (same as
> > >dwarf). Only this 2 races have good relation with all
> > races except against
> > >troll, dark elf and orge, but they do not get KOS by
> > these 3 evil races
> > >like other humaniod races - they are only unwelcomed by
> > the evil races.
> > > For all other humaniod races, they get KOS by evil races
> > and vice versa.
> > >
> > >Any other reason that say DE wiz is better than gnome? -
> > other than the
> > >fact the gnome eye lvl does not hit other char's chest
> > lvl - very impt when
> > >talking to female chars, hehe.
> > >
> > >Note that this is not an arguement abt DE or gnome wiz
> > better but I would
> > >love to find out more abt the wiz class ;)
> > >
> > >Mondain
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >On Monday, June 14, 1999 6:01 PM, Entreri
> > [SMTP:drizzt@...]
> > >wrote:
> > >> From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
> > >>
> > >> DarkElf Wizard on my point of view is the strongest OF
> > all
> > >> wizards.Again,generally DarkElf wizards have higher
> > Agility and Dexterity
> > >> than highelf and erudites and since this 2 stats are
> > the most impt
> > >besides
> > >> intelligence,the darkelf wizard simply rocks!
> > >>
> > >> With Ultranight vision,there will be no more porblem at
> > night!
> > >>
> > >> Now down to the faction thingy,DarkElf wizards can
> > choose AGNOSTIC which
> > >> means they wont be KOS by humans however will be
> > elves.However,Darkelves
> > >> would pass through freeport to get to faydwer,so
> > killing orcs on the way
> > >> would enable access to elves territory which thus
> > improves faction with
> > >> dwarves,gnomes.Now all races like u :P,and BTW killing
> > orcs does not
> > >> decrease ya faction with darkelves...so its a good
> > factionbooster enemy.
> > >>
> > >> Generally,Darkelves hate every single race besides
> > themselves ..duh!So I
> > >do
> > >> not think much enemies would actualyl lower ya faction
> > with ya guild.
> > >>
> > >> This is through my experience with a DarkElf warrior[I
> > was not KOS in
> > >> freeport,riverdale,commons,etc] and a Darkelf Wizard.
> > >>
> > >> Conclusion:Darkelves simply rock once u pass the
> > faction thingy.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Entreri
> > >>
> > >> Email: drizzt@...
> > >> ICQ UIN: 2326860
> > >> Previewer, Singularity Gaming Network
> > >> http://www.sg-gaming.net
> > >> Your Single Source of Everything Gaming
> > >>
> > >> .plan at
> > >>
> > http://www.wplan.com/cgibin/directplan.cgi?name=Entreri&viewpass=
> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > <sccheng@...>
> > >> To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> >
> > >> Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 2:35 PM
> > >> Subject: [sg-everquest] Analysis Version 2.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy"
> > <sccheng@...>
> > >> >
> > >> >Well... i have a different analysis fer Wiz... instead
> > of Dark Elf... i
> > >> >think i will prefer High Elf instead... since they
> > generally have higher
> > >> >stats (generally) and well accepted by most races...
> > although they aint
> > >> that
> > >> >great when comes to INT... but i think High Elf will
> > be my choice when
> > >its
> > >> >Wizard.... and Dark Elf or Erudite fer Necro since
> > Sereph mentioned that
> > >> >imroving faction among the good fellas will reduce
> > yours with the bad
> > >> >guys.... i think its a hard part to handle... or
> > perhaps... gnome might
> > >be
> > >> >the best choice afterall :) or perhaps not fer me...
> > since i prefer to
> > >have
> > >> >something that 'looks' better in-game... (no offence
> > DF)...
> > >> >Also, the most impt stats thast STA n INT fer Wiz...
> > is quite different
> > >fer
> > >> >Necro... think its DEX n INT fer em... anyway... i
> > guess the impt factor
> > >or
> > >> >choosing is to have something u like... otherwise i
> > dont think anyone
> > >can
> > >> >hang there long enough... n perhaps that might take a
> > little of
> > >> >experiment... (much like UO, the first char is usually
> > not the best one
> > >u
> > >> >will have)...
> > >> >the Hide thingy is also another interesting factor...
> > well... who
> > >knows...
> > >> >the Human might be the best in this in the long
> > run.... since they can
> > >> >progress faster than anyone else... i guess thats
> > something i have to
> > >look
> > >> >into...
> > >> >
> > >> >i think i better get back to work... :)
> > >> >Fred
> > >> >----- Original Message -----
> > >> >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >> >To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > >> >Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 2:39 PM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Role-playing element in EQ
> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I've analysed the erudite, dark elf and gnome when I
> > try to make my
> > >2nd
> > >> >> wiz. No doubt erudite and dark elf "seem' to have
> > better vital stats
> > >for
> > >> >a
> > >> >> wiz, but if you look at an overall view, a gnome
> > seems to work out
> > >> >better -
> > >> >> due to the high dex and high agi, which I top them
> > up with 5 stats
> > >each
> > >> to
> > >> >> make them 90. Having high dex, my casting rarely
> > get disturbed, and
> > >with
> > >> >> high agi, many times I managed to kill my opponents
> > b4 they killed me
> > >> when
> > >> >> it's a fair fight coz I can avoid their attack and
> > blast them back.
> > > The
> > >> >> impt stats for wiz is INT and STA, which is where I
> > spend all my 30
> > >stats
> > >> >> points when I create my 1st high elf wiz in
> > Innoruuk. H/w, after
> > >reading
> > >> >> so many player guides in the net, I realised we all
> > missed a very impt
> > >> >> point - ie to built AGI instead of STA. Why? Becoz
> > at high lvl,
> > >compare
> > >> >> putting 5 points in STA and AGI, will u wanna get
> > hit by a monster
> > >that
> > >> >> delivery a 100 HP dam with the additional 25HP gain
> > due to the 5 STA
> > >> >> points, or to stand a higher chance to totally avoid
> > the 100 HP dam?
> > >;)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I think EQVault, EQSS, EQlore, EQlizer, EQGuide etc
> > all have very
> > >> >> interesting and informative articles on creating
> > chars which worth
> > >> reading
> > >> >> b4 making a new char ;)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Always remember - the game itself has the default
> > vital stats for each
> > >> >> class, but we have to consider our playing style as
> > well. Simply
> > >> building
> > >> >> up based on the vital status may hinder ya survival
> > in EQ :)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Mondain (Gnome Wiz)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> p/s: OK buddy Leshrec, I will join u in making an
> > evil char to wipe
> > >out
> > >> >the
> > >> >> painskin pigs, whahahahahaah! I leave you guys to
> > guess what I'm
> > >> creating
> > >> >> tonight....maybe a surprise for all when I reach
> > high lvl, heh.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Monday, June 14, 1999 12:30 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh,
> > Freddy
> > >> >> [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > >> >> > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy"
> > <sccheng@...>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > i dont mind being a bad guy as long as i can find
> > company... but i
> > >> think
> > >> >> fer
> > >> >> > a start... its better to improve ya relationship
> > with other races...
> > >i
> > >> >> dont
> > >> >> > think i want the entire town KOS whenever...
> > wherever i visit...
> > >btw...
> > >> >> if
> > >> >> > they keep coming up to u... i.e., KOS... then how
> > can u ever improve
> > >ya
> > >> >> > faction? think thats gonna be a hard task....
> > although the gnome has
> > >> >> better
> > >> >> > stats... than the dark elf... but i think... in
> > terms of stats
> > >critical
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> > Necro... Dark Elf is slightly better...in fact...
> > i think comparable
> > >to
> > >> >> > Erudite... as i tried to create both on paper... n
> > Dark Elf got the
> > >> >> > advantage of Hide n Ultravision... :) maybe i need
> > more research as
> > >> >> regards
> > >> >> > to Erudite n Dark Elf...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > till then...
> > >> >> > Fred
> > >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> >> > From: Leshrec <leshrec@...>
> > >> >> > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 12:21 PM
> > >> >> > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Role-playing element
> > in EQ
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Aye i'm intending to improve my faction not for
> > the sake of good,
> > >but
> > >> >> > rather
> > >> >> > > to fool the pale skinned beings, whom many of
> > you call humans into
> > >> >> > believing
> > >> >> > > I am fighting for their cause. However, I am
> > loyal only to
> > >Innoruuk
> > >> >> > himself
> > >> >> > > and for that, I say HAIL INNORUUK. Seeing the
> > humans die shall
> > >always
> > >> >> be
> > >> >> > my
> > >> >> > > joy, however i always welcome another ally in
> > Evil.----->Mondain )
> > >> >> > > ooc Although the gnomish necro has the best
> > stats, I chose dark
> > >elf
> > >> >> after
> > >> >> > > seeing a fully equipped Tier'dal necro wearing
> > full Gossmer armor,
> > >> not
> > >> >> > sure
> > >> >> > > of the spelling who looked really nice . I saw
> > many gnomish
> > >warriors
> > >> >> wear
> > >> >> > > armor and they look kinda stumpy hehe.
> > >> >> > > btw, the human guards in commons won't attack,
> > neither do the
> > >guards
> > >> >in
> > >> >> > > freeport, they are evil. I got a dubious con on
> > most of them, but
> > >> >those
> > >> >> > with
> > >> >> > > SIR, u better watch out. They are the self
> > proclaimed paladins and
> > >> are
> > >> >> > fools
> > >> >> > > imho. Innkeepers in commons are KOS to us tho,
> > so if u plan on
> > >coming
> > >> >> > > commons, don't go near them. They are better
> > martial arts expert
> > >than
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > > guards.
> > >> >> > > Any yes, if possible i would like to wipe out a
> > goody town when
> > >i'm
> > >> >> very
> > >> >> > > high level. imagine seeing the bodies of those
> > pale skin beings
> > >lying
> > >> >> on
> > >> >> > the
> > >> >> > > floor in a bloody heap. Yummy )
> > >> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >> >> > > To: '* Singapore EQ Mailing List'
> > <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > >> >> > > Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 11:05 AM
> > >> >> > > Subject: [sg-everquest] Role-playing element in
> > EQ
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >Anyone read the recent EQ review in CGW June
> > issue?
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >It pointed out that EQ is more of a hack and
> > slash RPG while UO
> > >has
> > >> >> more
> > >> >> > > >stuffs other than hack & slash. Somehow I
> > agree coz seem like
> > >I've
> > >> >> > > >nothing much to do other than blasting monsters
> > in EQ, hehe.
> > > Dunno
> > >> >> how
> > >> >> > > >long can this 'blasting' will last me in EQ ;)
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >Btw, I'm having a hard time in Steamfont
> > Mountain after my wiz
> > >> >achieve
> > >> >> > lvl
> > >> >> > > >5 via soloing, AGAIN. As in Felwithe, I'm
> > having a hard time
> > >> finding
> > >> >> a
> > >> >> > > >good team to gain XP to higher lvl. 90% of the
> > team I mixed so
> > >far
> > >> >sux
> > >> >> -
> > >> >> > > >some members even disband and flee when a train
> > of monsters
> > >killed
> > >> >our
> > >> >> > > >tanks and rushed towards the casters, LOL. (Oh
> > remember the name
> > >> >> David,
> > >> >> > > >this guy looted everything in group hunting and
> > said "who loot
> > >also
> > >> >> > nimnd",
> > >> >> > > >hehe, and he is always the first one who
> > disband and flee when
> > >> danger
> > >> >> > arise
> > >> >> > > >- his name disappear in group list not becoz he
> > LD but I
> > >personally
> > >> >> see
> > >> >> > him
> > >> >> > > >running off, hehe).
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >Anyone make a gnomish char? Need a buddy badly
> > there ;) If not,
> > >I
> > >> >> will
> > >> >> > > >create a TSK or TSH (someone said we need more
> > cleric/shaman
> > >chars
> > >> in
> > >> >> > > >Prexus guild?) and solo all the way - ie make
> > the darkest evil
> > >char.
> > >> >> > Kinda
> > >> >> > > >sian finding pple to team with. Been a lawful
> > good char in UO,
> > >> maybe
> > >> >> it
> > >> >> > 's
> > >> >> > > >time to make a chaotic evil one in EQ,
> > wahahahaha!
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >Btw, Leshrec, need to check with u. Regarding
> > ya DEN, do u
> > >intend
> > >> to
> > >> >> > > >role-play evil or intend to "turn over a new
> > leave" (ie improve
> > >ya
> > >> >> > faction
> > >> >> > > >with other races)? Anyone ever think of
> > building a high lvl EVIL
> > >> >char
> > >> >> > and
> > >> >> > > >wipe off an npc town? hehehe.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >Mondain
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > >
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