I thought FBR is no lore is it??

LKW wrote:

>
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
>
> We are hunting FBR tat day, not boot. She was hunting there naked, and 1
> day later we heard from her friend auction in SK tat she is selling FBR.
> Seem like she hunt FBR for income, hehe.
>
> Hmm, as for the tin pie, not sure if it's as bad as u mentioned, but I
> heard u actually need to do something to make it rather than to buy it. I
> think the impact is not tat extreme. Anway even for new servers, there is
> still exploits which pple use to make tons and tons of money. Say by tat
> time u got a lvl 40 char and u are not aware of the bug where others have
> used it to make tons of pp, what u gonna do? ;) Just like the gp dupe in
> UO, everyone still live with it. Over time, houses will decay...players
> quit...the economy will slowly go back to normal (macro-economics? hahaha).
>
> The nerfing of necro pet is just a rumor. Dun take everythig in test
> center as 100% confirmed. Some they tested but decide not to implement
> instead. Anyway, I dun think necro need 3x longer casting time than wiz.
> I got some necro friends and when we hunt, I can see their spells hit the
> mob almost the same time as us. Talk abt disturbance, wiz can 'taunt'
> better than any tanks out there. With my nuke, I always invite mob to
> focus full attention on me, that why I bring at least 50 gems for
> leatherskin everytime I hunt (5gp each). When mob on me, it's more like I
> get disturbed most amg all casters (dun believe, ask FF when we hunt in HH,
> the mob desert him and his pet the moment I nuke it).
>
> DEX is not the only element to decide u get disturbed when casting. At
> high lvl, spec also play a part. Many times I I got hit by mob but I see
> msg tat I regain and con't casting. I think for those caster with pets, u
> shld let pet tank for the 1st 30% dam b4 u cast. We wiz got no choice, no
> pet to tank, so we have to nuke mob to hell b4 it kills us.
>
> As for lvl 31 wiz soloing 2 treants, I'm the one who has done it last
> night, b4 Fesse, Zan, FF and DF join me ;) All I need it to cast leather
> skin, ele shield on myself, and nuke a tree using 3 nukes (2x243, 1x187).
> After taking the 1st tree, my leatherskin is gone (but still 90% HP), then
> I started nuking the 2nd. I left 20% mana and 50% HP after killing the 2nd
> (and boy, I got half bubb xp!). I dun have any SoW or buff from other
> players, just plain wiz buff and nuke ;) One thing to highlight tat at DEX
> 83 only, I dun get disturbed often even when tree hit me using melee, maybe
> due to my high evoke spec skill. I also move ard when tree cast AE on me,
> but I cast at the right time such tat I dun get disturbed by my own
> movements. I dunno why Maquis is so jiat-lat handling the treants (esp I
> know he got Jboot), maybe becoz he only know how to steal kill and not
> other wiz tactics. See, that's why I say experiences and tactics counts ;)
>
> Anyway, I think my wiz stats is one of the worst ard, yet I'm still
> surviving. I also whine sometime when I see other casters using they pets
> to lvl, but deep inside I know if there is a server wipe, I will still go
> back to wiz ;) I hope u have found a right choice for youself. ;)
>
> Ziltus
>
> On Friday, 03 September, 1999 5:20 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
> >
> > trade skill is a joke in EQ... besides jewelcraft... since
> blacksmithing...
> > u can only make banded... is stupid i think... there should be more
> > options.. also tailoring... where int he world got a tailor that can make
> > leather stuff BUT not cloth? also... the bonding cost so much more... in
> the
> > end tailoring is harder than blacksmithing....in terms of trade skill...
> i
> > think UO did a much much better job... only thing they lack is magical
> > items... NOT SAY THEY DONT HAVE.. its just that one wont be willing to
> > sacrifice your vanquishing weapon to fight... hehe... at least i wont...
> >
> > lol... im surprised that vampira still havent got her boots... bcos when
> i
> > was camping... shes also camping for it that time... genreally shes a
> nice
> > lady... she helped us out alot... BTW she wasnt from my guild that time
> > (dont know that she came over)... she was from Iron League....
> > heres how the pie tin thingy works... the day b4 patch... maybe a pie tin
> > cost 1 silver... so i buy alot ... until all my backpacksin the bank n
> those
> > im carrying are full of them... the next day when the patch goes in...
> each
> > now sell for 1 plat (for example)... so u make like 100 times or 1000
> times
> > the amount u used to have... u think this is fair? worse part... verant
> did
> > nothing about it... tbey claim that they will do something... but i can
> say
> > its almost impossible to trace...
> > if u think i got a pet left? fyi... verant is nerfing the pet as well...
> > sucks rite? as for life tap line of spells.. they do like half or less
> the
> > damage for the level compared to a wizard... n takes like 3x as long to
> > cast... they are certainly not as useful as u imagine it to be... with
> dex
> > of 100... i still get disrupted often....
> >
> > not sure bout a level 31 wiz hunting 2 treants... since i saw maquis
> being
> > chased n not even able to kill any of em... LOL... anyway... my mind is
> > pretty set now to play my wiz till the necro problem is solved... from
> all
> > the mails from GZ (not to me - those i read) and forums theres 3 playable
> > class so far... DRUID, SHAMAN, and MAGICIAN... they he considered them
> > balanced... not sure bout wiz since i havent read any of em... the good
> > thing bout wiz is all the transport spells... but i think druid is very
> > close in fact... could be better than wiz.... oh well... despite all the
> > rant... i will still be playing this game... perhaps until my account run
> > dry and another better game comes... DIABLO2 in mind... hehe...
> >
> > Freed
> > p/s : i quit UO becos i have achieved all the trade skills n stuff... so
> > nothing to look forward to... i guess be the same when u have got
> level50...
> > hopefully a cross between UO (all the trade skills and housing comes to
> > mind) and EQ... will be good... ARGH! ENOUGH OF MY RANT...
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 5:52 PM
> > Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
> >
> >
> > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >
> > > Ah, now I get wat u mean. U mean the economy is screwed in all older
> > > servers, not just Inno ;)
> > >
> > > I'm not sure abt how the pie tin thingy can earn u 10,000s of pp a
> night
> > > (sure or not?) last time, but talk abt brewing, it really give good
> money
> > > for LOW lvls. At mid lvl onwards, it will be more fruitful to hunt
> rather
> > > than to trade. H/w, the joy of trade skills is not only earn money, I
> > > personally feel the satisfaction of been a master in some trade skills.
> > > None of my trade skills can give my more than 30pp a night of 4 hrs
> now,
> > > but I'm still willing to max them out when I have the money to spend on
> > raw
> > > material. Reason is simply personal satisfaction. The only regret I
> have
> > > is tat wiz is unable to train in jewel crafting (can make but cant
> > enchant)
> > > and tinkering. ;(
> > >
> > > As for ya remarks....
> > >
> > > 1. EQ is all abt lvl. Quite true, unlike UO we got more things (eg GM
> > trade
> > > skils, vendor, properties) there. H/w, there will also be a stage in
> UO
> > > where u achieved everything u want and in the end feel so aimless and
> > > boring, just to login every week to refresh houses. I think Verant
> > > initially wanna make lvl so difficult tat it will take a a yr to gain
> lvl
> > > 50 but things just dun turn out that way.
> > >
> > > 2. So far enchanter is still making good money, and gnome's thinkering
> is
> > > still not explored much yet.
> > >
> > > 3. I think local kakis is lucky in the sense that server is least
> packed
> > > when we play from 7pm to 10pm. So far my gang camp few days in Najena
> and
> > > only 1 time there is a DE magi b4 us. Nica u may know her - Vampira,
> from
> > > ya DE guild in Inno. She is so scare tat she start shouting over the
> zone
> > > b4 we nuke her kills, annoucing all that we are KSers, lol. She is
> yellow
> > > to me and FF at tat time, who r the highest lvl in the grp - she is
> damn
> > no
> > > ball, hehe.
> > >
> > > 4. It's more like a 'grass is greener elsewhere' sydrome ;) Tanks is
> so
> > > much better than casters at early stages, but we still see lots of
> casters
> > > out there ;) Necro and Magi is so much better than wiz and enchanter
> in
> > > the newbie stage, but we still see tons of wiz and enchanters ard.
> Druid
> > > is getting dd as powerful as wiz, only 5 lvl behind, not to forget they
> > can
> > > buff, can kite, melee. Even if Verant nerfs kiting, druid is still a
> very
> > > powerful class to play. Talk abt necro, u think the Dot is nerfed, but
> > you
> > > still got a pet. Ya pet normally got higher lvl than magi's pet, not
> > > forgeting that you can tap-life-heal-yaself. At lvl 49 u can drain
> life
> > > from a party of mob at the same time. So u think wiz's dd is cool, but
> > > have u thot of we fighting a mob and they killed us with only 3% hp
> left?
> > > Necro, on the other hand, can hurt mob and at the same time, drain HP.
> > > Not to forget u have a pet to tank for u. ;)
> > >
> > > 5. I think both UO and EQ are equally good, coz they belongs to 2
> > different
> > > kinda online RPG. Again, "grass is greener elsewhere" sydrome, hehe.
> UO
> > > got lag, I mean BAD lag, blue pker, house breakin etc problems. I
> think
> > > sometime we have to be firm on what we wanna be, and I admit this is
> not
> > > easy. Once we set our mind to play certain char, I believe we can do
> it
> > > well. Of coz, sometime u will make a wrong decision in select the
> wrong
> > > class/race, but human ma, sure got mistake. Try again lor, hehe.
> > >
> > > As for magical items, there are alot out there, much more than UO I
> think.
> > > U just need the lvl to hunt for them, hehe.
> > >
> > > Wiz can solo sometime, in certain situation. We are good in places
> with
> > > fixed number of spawns, which mobs tat hit hard but low HP (eg treant
> > > camp). If u ask a lvl 31 warrior to solo 2 treants, he will died much
> > > faster than he can heck the trees. Lvl 31 wiz, on the other hand, can
> > solo
> > > 2 trees, since we nuke faster than treants nuke us. In train-proned
> > > dungeons or places with random spawn, tanks can outshine us. I think
> that
> > > EQ classes are pretty balance, just tat u have to look for a situation
> > > which benefit u most.
> > >
> > > Ziltus
> > >
> > >
> > > On Friday, 03 September, 1999 4:23 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
> > > >
> > > > ok... when i mean econ is screwed... doesnt mean twinking... that
> > happens
> > > > all the time... i mean the pie tin thingy... that many many folks
> just
> > > earn
> > > > like 10s of thousands of pp just overnight... also... when the server
> is
> > > > very established... many low level stuff are no longer useful and
> dont
> > > fetch
> > > > any money... where in the new server... a minor item can be very
> > > prized...
> > > > i do agree that frens are impt in any game... and still will be...
> some
> > > > gamers just power level their way thru and theres nothing to stop em
> > > > there... BUT there are certain stuff that made me think twice bout
> this
> > > > game...
> > > > 1. i feel that this game is all about levels... u gain levels u kill
> > > > stuff... u gain more levels to kill more powerful stuff... and its
> goes
> > > on n
> > > > on n on... never ending...
> > > > 2. nothing so interesting... initially i thought u can create items
> > using
> > > > trade skills n stuff... so its not so bad... BUT verant decided that
> > > trade
> > > > skill shouldnt let u earn marnee... so they nerfed it... sad...
> > > > 3. all the servers are wayyyyyyyyyyyy too packed... everywhere is
> > > camped...
> > > > can u imagine when ur in a fantasy world... theres folks killing
> > > everything
> > > > n u dont even get to see any mobs for u to kill? off course timing is
> > > > anotehr thing...
> > > > 4. verant start nerfing classes when they reach level 50 in one month
> > > > instead of the 1 year they claimed... maybe u guys dont play Shaman,
> > > Druid,
> > > > or Necro... so u dont really feel it... but they practically remove
> my
> > > > ability to fight (if u have some knowledge bout the new DOT patch
> they
> > > are
> > > > going to implement)... the mob just needs to keep moving at me and
> it
> > > wont
> > > > be harmed... pvp will be a joke... then u will see every necro go
> play a
> > > > mage or wiz...
> > > > 5. like all the points... this game is become more meaningless... im
> > > > starting to think that UO is actually a better game... more depth...
> > (not
> > > > that UO is without its own problems)... but i can be sure that when
> UO 2
> > > > comes out in Dec 2000, it will certainly beat all the games outta
> it....
> > > or
> > > > perhaps not since Middle Earth is due bout that time... hehe...
> > > >
> > > > despite all those ranting... hehe... i will still play the stupid
> eq...
> > > bcos
> > > > i paid until december... (what to do)... and perhaps i will change my
> > > view
> > > > when the time comes... for now... im a wiz (to be honest i find that
> wiz
> > > > perform good in group... but they suck when solo - totally opposite
> of
> > > > necro)...
> > > >
> > > > thast all i have to say...
> > > > Nicademous
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:57 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > > >
> > > > > Hmm, u mentioned that Inno economy is all screwed, can u elaborate
> > abit
> > > > > more? *scratch head* ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > I feel tat every servers will ultimately grow "mature", meaning
> more
> > > > > twinked chars will show up as the time goes by.
> > > > > The joy of playing online RPG like UO and EQ comes from the
> different
> > > > > stages of char development in the game (newbie, intermediate,
> > > experienced,
> > > > > veteran, god-like). No doubts it's easier to train a char with
> > > somebody
> > > > > twinking you, but you will lost the fun, the good, the bad, the
> sad,
> > > the
> > > > > fear, the frustration, the joy etc...all the experiences u are
> > supposed
> > > to
> > > > > encounter when playing this game.
> > > > >
> > > > > For those twinked chars you come across, most of them has a
> high-lvl
> > > char
> > > > > behind supporting. This means that those players also spend their
> > time
> > > > > going thru' the newbie stage. If everything comes so easily, u
> will
> > > soon
> > > > > lost interest in the game.
> > > > >
> > > > > Personally I think quite number of those exisitng kakis can easily
> > > spare
> > > > > 10-20pp for a newbie kakis buying a descent set of newbie
> > > > > weap/armor/stuffs. I think with this 'twinking', it's already good
> > > enuff
> > > > > to start off training ya char. On the other hand, sometime it's
> best
> > > for
> > > > > new-comers to spend a week or so, playing a brand new char w/o any
> > > > > twinking, to get the feel of the game and decide if it is the
> > > class/race
> > > > > that you are going for. If every new comers come into server and
> suga
> > > > suga
> > > > > create new char, we help to twink abit, and delete char to
> re-create
> > > > > another one and expect twinking again, then it's not tat fair to
> those
> > > > > helping. So it's always a 2-sided coins ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Just like playing RTS game. If u hack a saved game and play the
> game
> > > by
> > > > > building only the more powerful units to rush ya opponents, u will
> > > never
> > > > > learn the usefulness of other units. For most of the solo campaign
> > > game,
> > > > > normally there is 1 or 2 missions where the most powerful unit (
> which
> > > is
> > > > > normally slowest) is no longer a useful element in completing the
> > > mission.
> > > > > At this stage, only those players who really play from scatch will
> be
> > > > able
> > > > > to tackle the problems and complete the mission safely.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some players reached lvl 50 first, some reach lvl 50 later.
> > Ultimately
> > > we
> > > > > will all be lvl 50s. Just ask yaself, what kinda lvl 50 u wanna
> be?
> > ;)
> > > > > FYI there are some lvl 49 players in EQ who even lost their way in
> > > South
> > > > > Karan, si-bek jiat-lat, hahahah ;P
> > > > >
> > > > > I myself is one of those few amg local kakis tat started a char in
> > > Prexus
> > > > > when it's first up. With my wiz experience in Inno, I make a
> really
> > > cool
> > > > > wiz char in Prexus. H/w, dun to the lack of kakis, I find training
> > > there
> > > > > is very boring. In the end I follow the rest back to Inno. Now u
> may
> > > > say,
> > > > > it's not tat difficult to find grp members to hunt with, but I must
> > > > comment
> > > > > that it's VERY difficult to find TRUST-WORHTY kakis in the game.
> Ask
> > > > > veteran players like Sereph and Garren, their feeling when someone
> in
> > > the
> > > > > grp looted the camped stuffs, disband and run off? ;) At least in
> > > Inno, I
> > > > > know who I can fight together...to death. Until now I still
> remember
> > > the
> > > > > newbie named David in Prexus, who disband from the team when we
> > striked
> > > a
> > > > > skelly train near Ak'non dragon bone land. When some of the team
> > > members
> > > > > asked him why he disband after the battle, he said he was LD, while
> I
> > > > > myself saw him running to guards with my own eyes ;)
> > > > >
> > > > > Ziltus
> > > > >
> > > > > p/s: I read form a EQ site that the numbers of casters armors
> > > discovered
> > > > is
> > > > > only less than 10% of all the casters armors in the game ;) Just
> tat
> > > > > casters sux in adventuring (we are better in camping) due to train
> and
> > > > > random spawn, we dun discover as many casters stuffs like those
> tanks
> > > out
> > > > > there.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Friday, 03 September, 1999 2:44 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > > > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy"
> <sccheng@...>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if u r looking to get twinked... i suggest u go prexus... Mazy
> will
> > > > twink
> > > > > u
> > > > > > good... as fer innoruuk... most likely u get some plat and dont
> > think
> > > > > anyone
> > > > > > will really twink u... thast my comments...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > im on innoruuk.. but more or less retired... bcos the econ that
> is
> > > all
> > > > > > screwed... i guessim the type that i rather build from scratch
> > myself
> > > > and
> > > > > > build up from there... so i end up in Tribunal... still new n
> very
> > > > > > playable...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > Fred
> > > > > > p/s : i do go innoruuk once in awhile... but only get to play
> during
> > > > > > weekends... so not too often...
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Lim choong Ee <choongee@...>
> > > > > > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 3:32 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Lim choong Ee <choongee@...>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > maybe i will create one in innoru, just want to ask how many
> > > > > > > of u is in the same guild and what the usual time u all play
> > > > > > > in singapore timing?maybe in weekday can play n team with u
> > > > > > > guys in the night time.
> > > > > > > hehe ont thing, like to know what the guild is lacking what
> > > > > > > classes? so i know what to play n choose to benefit the kakis
> > > > > > > n in the cause u had to twink me good and i will do the power
> > > > > > > lvl myself P.
> > > > > > > and give me name so i know who to look up leh.
> > > > > > >
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