We are hunting FBR tat day, not boot. She was hunting there naked, and 1
day later we heard from her friend auction in SK tat she is selling FBR.
Seem like she hunt FBR for income, hehe.
Hmm, as for the tin pie, not sure if it's as bad as u mentioned, but I
heard u actually need to do something to make it rather than to buy it. I
think the impact is not tat extreme. Anway even for new servers, there is
still exploits which pple use to make tons and tons of money. Say by tat
time u got a lvl 40 char and u are not aware of the bug where others have
used it to make tons of pp, what u gonna do? ;) Just like the gp dupe in
UO, everyone still live with it. Over time, houses will decay...players
quit...the economy will slowly go back to normal (macro-economics? hahaha).
The nerfing of necro pet is just a rumor. Dun take everythig in test
center as 100% confirmed. Some they tested but decide not to implement
instead. Anyway, I dun think necro need 3x longer casting time than wiz.
I got some necro friends and when we hunt, I can see their spells hit the
mob almost the same time as us. Talk abt disturbance, wiz can 'taunt'
better than any tanks out there. With my nuke, I always invite mob to
focus full attention on me, that why I bring at least 50 gems for
leatherskin everytime I hunt (5gp each). When mob on me, it's more like I
get disturbed most amg all casters (dun believe, ask FF when we hunt in HH,
the mob desert him and his pet the moment I nuke it).
DEX is not the only element to decide u get disturbed when casting. At
high lvl, spec also play a part. Many times I I got hit by mob but I see
msg tat I regain and con't casting. I think for those caster with pets, u
shld let pet tank for the 1st 30% dam b4 u cast. We wiz got no choice, no
pet to tank, so we have to nuke mob to hell b4 it kills us.
As for lvl 31 wiz soloing 2 treants, I'm the one who has done it last
night, b4 Fesse, Zan, FF and DF join me ;) All I need it to cast leather
skin, ele shield on myself, and nuke a tree using 3 nukes (2x243, 1x187).
After taking the 1st tree, my leatherskin is gone (but still 90% HP), then
I started nuking the 2nd. I left 20% mana and 50% HP after killing the 2nd
(and boy, I got half bubb xp!). I dun have any SoW or buff from other
players, just plain wiz buff and nuke ;) One thing to highlight tat at DEX
83 only, I dun get disturbed often even when tree hit me using melee, maybe
due to my high evoke spec skill. I also move ard when tree cast AE on me,
but I cast at the right time such tat I dun get disturbed by my own
movements. I dunno why Maquis is so jiat-lat handling the treants (esp I
know he got Jboot), maybe becoz he only know how to steal kill and not
other wiz tactics. See, that's why I say experiences and tactics counts ;)
Anyway, I think my wiz stats is one of the worst ard, yet I'm still
surviving. I also whine sometime when I see other casters using they pets
to lvl, but deep inside I know if there is a server wipe, I will still go
back to wiz ;) I hope u have found a right choice for youself. ;)
Ziltus
On Friday, 03 September, 1999 5:20 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
[SMTP:
sccheng@...] wrote:
> From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
>
> trade skill is a joke in EQ... besides jewelcraft... since
blacksmithing...
> u can only make banded... is stupid i think... there should be more
> options.. also tailoring... where int he world got a tailor that can make
> leather stuff BUT not cloth? also... the bonding cost so much more... in
the
> end tailoring is harder than blacksmithing....in terms of trade skill...
i
> think UO did a much much better job... only thing they lack is magical
> items... NOT SAY THEY DONT HAVE.. its just that one wont be willing to
> sacrifice your vanquishing weapon to fight... hehe... at least i wont...
>
> lol... im surprised that vampira still havent got her boots... bcos when
i
> was camping... shes also camping for it that time... genreally shes a
nice
> lady... she helped us out alot... BTW she wasnt from my guild that time
> (dont know that she came over)... she was from Iron League....
> heres how the pie tin thingy works... the day b4 patch... maybe a pie tin
> cost 1 silver... so i buy alot ... until all my backpacksin the bank n
those
> im carrying are full of them... the next day when the patch goes in...
each
> now sell for 1 plat (for example)... so u make like 100 times or 1000
times
> the amount u used to have... u think this is fair? worse part... verant
did
> nothing about it... tbey claim that they will do something... but i can
say
> its almost impossible to trace...
> if u think i got a pet left? fyi... verant is nerfing the pet as well...
> sucks rite? as for life tap line of spells.. they do like half or less
the
> damage for the level compared to a wizard... n takes like 3x as long to
> cast... they are certainly not as useful as u imagine it to be... with
dex
> of 100... i still get disrupted often....
>
> not sure bout a level 31 wiz hunting 2 treants... since i saw maquis
being
> chased n not even able to kill any of em... LOL... anyway... my mind is
> pretty set now to play my wiz till the necro problem is solved... from
all
> the mails from GZ (not to me - those i read) and forums theres 3 playable
> class so far... DRUID, SHAMAN, and MAGICIAN... they he considered them
> balanced... not sure bout wiz since i havent read any of em... the good
> thing bout wiz is all the transport spells... but i think druid is very
> close in fact... could be better than wiz.... oh well... despite all the
> rant... i will still be playing this game... perhaps until my account run
> dry and another better game comes... DIABLO2 in mind... hehe...
>
> Freed
> p/s : i quit UO becos i have achieved all the trade skills n stuff... so
> nothing to look forward to... i guess be the same when u have got
level50...
> hopefully a cross between UO (all the trade skills and housing comes to
> mind) and EQ... will be good... ARGH! ENOUGH OF MY RANT...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 5:52 PM
> Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
>
>
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> > Ah, now I get wat u mean. U mean the economy is screwed in all older
> > servers, not just Inno ;)
> >
> > I'm not sure abt how the pie tin thingy can earn u 10,000s of pp a
night
> > (sure or not?) last time, but talk abt brewing, it really give good
money
> > for LOW lvls. At mid lvl onwards, it will be more fruitful to hunt
rather
> > than to trade. H/w, the joy of trade skills is not only earn money, I
> > personally feel the satisfaction of been a master in some trade skills.
> > None of my trade skills can give my more than 30pp a night of 4 hrs
now,
> > but I'm still willing to max them out when I have the money to spend on
> raw
> > material. Reason is simply personal satisfaction. The only regret I
have
> > is tat wiz is unable to train in jewel crafting (can make but cant
> enchant)
> > and tinkering. ;(
> >
> > As for ya remarks....
> >
> > 1. EQ is all abt lvl. Quite true, unlike UO we got more things (eg GM
> trade
> > skils, vendor, properties) there. H/w, there will also be a stage in
UO
> > where u achieved everything u want and in the end feel so aimless and
> > boring, just to login every week to refresh houses. I think Verant
> > initially wanna make lvl so difficult tat it will take a a yr to gain
lvl
> > 50 but things just dun turn out that way.
> >
> > 2. So far enchanter is still making good money, and gnome's thinkering
is
> > still not explored much yet.
> >
> > 3. I think local kakis is lucky in the sense that server is least
packed
> > when we play from 7pm to 10pm. So far my gang camp few days in Najena
and
> > only 1 time there is a DE magi b4 us. Nica u may know her - Vampira,
from
> > ya DE guild in Inno. She is so scare tat she start shouting over the
zone
> > b4 we nuke her kills, annoucing all that we are KSers, lol. She is
yellow
> > to me and FF at tat time, who r the highest lvl in the grp - she is
damn
> no
> > ball, hehe.
> >
> > 4. It's more like a 'grass is greener elsewhere' sydrome ;) Tanks is
so
> > much better than casters at early stages, but we still see lots of
casters
> > out there ;) Necro and Magi is so much better than wiz and enchanter
in
> > the newbie stage, but we still see tons of wiz and enchanters ard.
Druid
> > is getting dd as powerful as wiz, only 5 lvl behind, not to forget they
> can
> > buff, can kite, melee. Even if Verant nerfs kiting, druid is still a
very
> > powerful class to play. Talk abt necro, u think the Dot is nerfed, but
> you
> > still got a pet. Ya pet normally got higher lvl than magi's pet, not
> > forgeting that you can tap-life-heal-yaself. At lvl 49 u can drain
life
> > from a party of mob at the same time. So u think wiz's dd is cool, but
> > have u thot of we fighting a mob and they killed us with only 3% hp
left?
> > Necro, on the other hand, can hurt mob and at the same time, drain HP.
> > Not to forget u have a pet to tank for u. ;)
> >
> > 5. I think both UO and EQ are equally good, coz they belongs to 2
> different
> > kinda online RPG. Again, "grass is greener elsewhere" sydrome, hehe.
UO
> > got lag, I mean BAD lag, blue pker, house breakin etc problems. I
think
> > sometime we have to be firm on what we wanna be, and I admit this is
not
> > easy. Once we set our mind to play certain char, I believe we can do
it
> > well. Of coz, sometime u will make a wrong decision in select the
wrong
> > class/race, but human ma, sure got mistake. Try again lor, hehe.
> >
> > As for magical items, there are alot out there, much more than UO I
think.
> > U just need the lvl to hunt for them, hehe.
> >
> > Wiz can solo sometime, in certain situation. We are good in places
with
> > fixed number of spawns, which mobs tat hit hard but low HP (eg treant
> > camp). If u ask a lvl 31 warrior to solo 2 treants, he will died much
> > faster than he can heck the trees. Lvl 31 wiz, on the other hand, can
> solo
> > 2 trees, since we nuke faster than treants nuke us. In train-proned
> > dungeons or places with random spawn, tanks can outshine us. I think
that
> > EQ classes are pretty balance, just tat u have to look for a situation
> > which benefit u most.
> >
> > Ziltus
> >
> >
> > On Friday, 03 September, 1999 4:23 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
> > >
> > > ok... when i mean econ is screwed... doesnt mean twinking... that
> happens
> > > all the time... i mean the pie tin thingy... that many many folks
just
> > earn
> > > like 10s of thousands of pp just overnight... also... when the server
is
> > > very established... many low level stuff are no longer useful and
dont
> > fetch
> > > any money... where in the new server... a minor item can be very
> > prized...
> > > i do agree that frens are impt in any game... and still will be...
some
> > > gamers just power level their way thru and theres nothing to stop em
> > > there... BUT there are certain stuff that made me think twice bout
this
> > > game...
> > > 1. i feel that this game is all about levels... u gain levels u kill
> > > stuff... u gain more levels to kill more powerful stuff... and its
goes
> > on n
> > > on n on... never ending...
> > > 2. nothing so interesting... initially i thought u can create items
> using
> > > trade skills n stuff... so its not so bad... BUT verant decided that
> > trade
> > > skill shouldnt let u earn marnee... so they nerfed it... sad...
> > > 3. all the servers are wayyyyyyyyyyyy too packed... everywhere is
> > camped...
> > > can u imagine when ur in a fantasy world... theres folks killing
> > everything
> > > n u dont even get to see any mobs for u to kill? off course timing is
> > > anotehr thing...
> > > 4. verant start nerfing classes when they reach level 50 in one month
> > > instead of the 1 year they claimed... maybe u guys dont play Shaman,
> > Druid,
> > > or Necro... so u dont really feel it... but they practically remove
my
> > > ability to fight (if u have some knowledge bout the new DOT patch
they
> > are
> > > going to implement)... the mob just needs to keep moving at me and
it
> > wont
> > > be harmed... pvp will be a joke... then u will see every necro go
play a
> > > mage or wiz...
> > > 5. like all the points... this game is become more meaningless... im
> > > starting to think that UO is actually a better game... more depth...
> (not
> > > that UO is without its own problems)... but i can be sure that when
UO 2
> > > comes out in Dec 2000, it will certainly beat all the games outta
it....
> > or
> > > perhaps not since Middle Earth is due bout that time... hehe...
> > >
> > > despite all those ranting... hehe... i will still play the stupid
eq...
> > bcos
> > > i paid until december... (what to do)... and perhaps i will change my
> > view
> > > when the time comes... for now... im a wiz (to be honest i find that
wiz
> > > perform good in group... but they suck when solo - totally opposite
of
> > > necro)...
> > >
> > > thast all i have to say...
> > > Nicademous
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:57 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, u mentioned that Inno economy is all screwed, can u elaborate
> abit
> > > > more? *scratch head* ;)
> > > >
> > > > I feel tat every servers will ultimately grow "mature", meaning
more
> > > > twinked chars will show up as the time goes by.
> > > > The joy of playing online RPG like UO and EQ comes from the
different
> > > > stages of char development in the game (newbie, intermediate,
> > experienced,
> > > > veteran, god-like). No doubts it's easier to train a char with
> > somebody
> > > > twinking you, but you will lost the fun, the good, the bad, the
sad,
> > the
> > > > fear, the frustration, the joy etc...all the experiences u are
> supposed
> > to
> > > > encounter when playing this game.
> > > >
> > > > For those twinked chars you come across, most of them has a
high-lvl
> > char
> > > > behind supporting. This means that those players also spend their
> time
> > > > going thru' the newbie stage. If everything comes so easily, u
will
> > soon
> > > > lost interest in the game.
> > > >
> > > > Personally I think quite number of those exisitng kakis can easily
> > spare
> > > > 10-20pp for a newbie kakis buying a descent set of newbie
> > > > weap/armor/stuffs. I think with this 'twinking', it's already good
> > enuff
> > > > to start off training ya char. On the other hand, sometime it's
best
> > for
> > > > new-comers to spend a week or so, playing a brand new char w/o any
> > > > twinking, to get the feel of the game and decide if it is the
> > class/race
> > > > that you are going for. If every new comers come into server and
suga
> > > suga
> > > > create new char, we help to twink abit, and delete char to
re-create
> > > > another one and expect twinking again, then it's not tat fair to
those
> > > > helping. So it's always a 2-sided coins ;)
> > > >
> > > > Just like playing RTS game. If u hack a saved game and play the
game
> > by
> > > > building only the more powerful units to rush ya opponents, u will
> > never
> > > > learn the usefulness of other units. For most of the solo campaign
> > game,
> > > > normally there is 1 or 2 missions where the most powerful unit (
which
> > is
> > > > normally slowest) is no longer a useful element in completing the
> > mission.
> > > > At this stage, only those players who really play from scatch will
be
> > > able
> > > > to tackle the problems and complete the mission safely.
> > > >
> > > > Some players reached lvl 50 first, some reach lvl 50 later.
> Ultimately
> > we
> > > > will all be lvl 50s. Just ask yaself, what kinda lvl 50 u wanna
be?
> ;)
> > > > FYI there are some lvl 49 players in EQ who even lost their way in
> > South
> > > > Karan, si-bek jiat-lat, hahahah ;P
> > > >
> > > > I myself is one of those few amg local kakis tat started a char in
> > Prexus
> > > > when it's first up. With my wiz experience in Inno, I make a
really
> > cool
> > > > wiz char in Prexus. H/w, dun to the lack of kakis, I find training
> > there
> > > > is very boring. In the end I follow the rest back to Inno. Now u
may
> > > say,
> > > > it's not tat difficult to find grp members to hunt with, but I must
> > > comment
> > > > that it's VERY difficult to find TRUST-WORHTY kakis in the game.
Ask
> > > > veteran players like Sereph and Garren, their feeling when someone
in
> > the
> > > > grp looted the camped stuffs, disband and run off? ;) At least in
> > Inno, I
> > > > know who I can fight together...to death. Until now I still
remember
> > the
> > > > newbie named David in Prexus, who disband from the team when we
> striked
> > a
> > > > skelly train near Ak'non dragon bone land. When some of the team
> > members
> > > > asked him why he disband after the battle, he said he was LD, while
I
> > > > myself saw him running to guards with my own eyes ;)
> > > >
> > > > Ziltus
> > > >
> > > > p/s: I read form a EQ site that the numbers of casters armors
> > discovered
> > > is
> > > > only less than 10% of all the casters armors in the game ;) Just
tat
> > > > casters sux in adventuring (we are better in camping) due to train
and
> > > > random spawn, we dun discover as many casters stuffs like those
tanks
> > out
> > > > there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Friday, 03 September, 1999 2:44 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > > > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > > > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy"
<
sccheng@...>
> > > > >
> > > > > if u r looking to get twinked... i suggest u go prexus... Mazy
will
> > > twink
> > > > u
> > > > > good... as fer innoruuk... most likely u get some plat and dont
> think
> > > > anyone
> > > > > will really twink u... thast my comments...
> > > > >
> > > > > im on innoruuk.. but more or less retired... bcos the econ that
is
> > all
> > > > > screwed... i guessim the type that i rather build from scratch
> myself
> > > and
> > > > > build up from there... so i end up in Tribunal... still new n
very
> > > > > playable...
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > > Fred
> > > > > p/s : i do go innoruuk once in awhile... but only get to play
during
> > > > > weekends... so not too often...
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Lim choong Ee <choongee@...>
> > > > > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 3:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Lim choong Ee <choongee@...>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > maybe i will create one in innoru, just want to ask how many
> > > > > > of u is in the same guild and what the usual time u all play
> > > > > > in singapore timing?maybe in weekday can play n team with u
> > > > > > guys in the night time.
> > > > > > hehe ont thing, like to know what the guild is lacking what
> > > > > > classes? so i know what to play n choose to benefit the kakis
> > > > > > n in the cause u had to twink me good and i will do the power
> > > > > > lvl myself P.
> > > > > > and give me name so i know who to look up leh.
> > > > > >
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