Ah, now I get wat u mean. U mean the economy is screwed in all older
servers, not just Inno ;)
I'm not sure abt how the pie tin thingy can earn u 10,000s of pp a night
(sure or not?) last time, but talk abt brewing, it really give good money
for LOW lvls. At mid lvl onwards, it will be more fruitful to hunt rather
than to trade. H/w, the joy of trade skills is not only earn money, I
personally feel the satisfaction of been a master in some trade skills.
None of my trade skills can give my more than 30pp a night of 4 hrs now,
but I'm still willing to max them out when I have the money to spend on raw
material. Reason is simply personal satisfaction. The only regret I have
is tat wiz is unable to train in jewel crafting (can make but cant enchant)
and tinkering. ;(
As for ya remarks....
1. EQ is all abt lvl. Quite true, unlike UO we got more things (eg GM trade
skils, vendor, properties) there. H/w, there will also be a stage in UO
where u achieved everything u want and in the end feel so aimless and
boring, just to login every week to refresh houses. I think Verant
initially wanna make lvl so difficult tat it will take a a yr to gain lvl
50 but things just dun turn out that way.
2. So far enchanter is still making good money, and gnome's thinkering is
still not explored much yet.
3. I think local kakis is lucky in the sense that server is least packed
when we play from 7pm to 10pm. So far my gang camp few days in Najena and
only 1 time there is a DE magi b4 us. Nica u may know her - Vampira, from
ya DE guild in Inno. She is so scare tat she start shouting over the zone
b4 we nuke her kills, annoucing all that we are KSers, lol. She is yellow
to me and FF at tat time, who r the highest lvl in the grp - she is damn no
ball, hehe.
4. It's more like a 'grass is greener elsewhere' sydrome ;) Tanks is so
much better than casters at early stages, but we still see lots of casters
out there ;) Necro and Magi is so much better than wiz and enchanter in
the newbie stage, but we still see tons of wiz and enchanters ard. Druid
is getting dd as powerful as wiz, only 5 lvl behind, not to forget they can
buff, can kite, melee. Even if Verant nerfs kiting, druid is still a very
powerful class to play. Talk abt necro, u think the Dot is nerfed, but you
still got a pet. Ya pet normally got higher lvl than magi's pet, not
forgeting that you can tap-life-heal-yaself. At lvl 49 u can drain life
from a party of mob at the same time. So u think wiz's dd is cool, but
have u thot of we fighting a mob and they killed us with only 3% hp left?
Necro, on the other hand, can hurt mob and at the same time, drain HP.
Not to forget u have a pet to tank for u. ;)
5. I think both UO and EQ are equally good, coz they belongs to 2 different
kinda online RPG. Again, "grass is greener elsewhere" sydrome, hehe. UO
got lag, I mean BAD lag, blue pker, house breakin etc problems. I think
sometime we have to be firm on what we wanna be, and I admit this is not
easy. Once we set our mind to play certain char, I believe we can do it
well. Of coz, sometime u will make a wrong decision in select the wrong
class/race, but human ma, sure got mistake. Try again lor, hehe.
As for magical items, there are alot out there, much more than UO I think.
U just need the lvl to hunt for them, hehe.
Wiz can solo sometime, in certain situation. We are good in places with
fixed number of spawns, which mobs tat hit hard but low HP (eg treant
camp). If u ask a lvl 31 warrior to solo 2 treants, he will died much
faster than he can heck the trees. Lvl 31 wiz, on the other hand, can solo
2 trees, since we nuke faster than treants nuke us. In train-proned
dungeons or places with random spawn, tanks can outshine us. I think that
EQ classes are pretty balance, just tat u have to look for a situation
which benefit u most.
Ziltus
On Friday, 03 September, 1999 4:23 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
[SMTP:
sccheng@...] wrote:
> From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
>
> ok... when i mean econ is screwed... doesnt mean twinking... that happens
> all the time... i mean the pie tin thingy... that many many folks just
earn
> like 10s of thousands of pp just overnight... also... when the server is
> very established... many low level stuff are no longer useful and dont
fetch
> any money... where in the new server... a minor item can be very
prized...
> i do agree that frens are impt in any game... and still will be... some
> gamers just power level their way thru and theres nothing to stop em
> there... BUT there are certain stuff that made me think twice bout this
> game...
> 1. i feel that this game is all about levels... u gain levels u kill
> stuff... u gain more levels to kill more powerful stuff... and its goes
on n
> on n on... never ending...
> 2. nothing so interesting... initially i thought u can create items using
> trade skills n stuff... so its not so bad... BUT verant decided that
trade
> skill shouldnt let u earn marnee... so they nerfed it... sad...
> 3. all the servers are wayyyyyyyyyyyy too packed... everywhere is
camped...
> can u imagine when ur in a fantasy world... theres folks killing
everything
> n u dont even get to see any mobs for u to kill? off course timing is
> anotehr thing...
> 4. verant start nerfing classes when they reach level 50 in one month
> instead of the 1 year they claimed... maybe u guys dont play Shaman,
Druid,
> or Necro... so u dont really feel it... but they practically remove my
> ability to fight (if u have some knowledge bout the new DOT patch they
are
> going to implement)... the mob just needs to keep moving at me and it
wont
> be harmed... pvp will be a joke... then u will see every necro go play a
> mage or wiz...
> 5. like all the points... this game is become more meaningless... im
> starting to think that UO is actually a better game... more depth... (not
> that UO is without its own problems)... but i can be sure that when UO 2
> comes out in Dec 2000, it will certainly beat all the games outta it....
or
> perhaps not since Middle Earth is due bout that time... hehe...
>
> despite all those ranting... hehe... i will still play the stupid eq...
bcos
> i paid until december... (what to do)... and perhaps i will change my
view
> when the time comes... for now... im a wiz (to be honest i find that wiz
> perform good in group... but they suck when solo - totally opposite of
> necro)...
>
> thast all i have to say...
> Nicademous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 4:57 PM
> Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
>
>
> > From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> >
> > Hmm, u mentioned that Inno economy is all screwed, can u elaborate abit
> > more? *scratch head* ;)
> >
> > I feel tat every servers will ultimately grow "mature", meaning more
> > twinked chars will show up as the time goes by.
> > The joy of playing online RPG like UO and EQ comes from the different
> > stages of char development in the game (newbie, intermediate,
experienced,
> > veteran, god-like). No doubts it's easier to train a char with
somebody
> > twinking you, but you will lost the fun, the good, the bad, the sad,
the
> > fear, the frustration, the joy etc...all the experiences u are supposed
to
> > encounter when playing this game.
> >
> > For those twinked chars you come across, most of them has a high-lvl
char
> > behind supporting. This means that those players also spend their time
> > going thru' the newbie stage. If everything comes so easily, u will
soon
> > lost interest in the game.
> >
> > Personally I think quite number of those exisitng kakis can easily
spare
> > 10-20pp for a newbie kakis buying a descent set of newbie
> > weap/armor/stuffs. I think with this 'twinking', it's already good
enuff
> > to start off training ya char. On the other hand, sometime it's best
for
> > new-comers to spend a week or so, playing a brand new char w/o any
> > twinking, to get the feel of the game and decide if it is the
class/race
> > that you are going for. If every new comers come into server and suga
> suga
> > create new char, we help to twink abit, and delete char to re-create
> > another one and expect twinking again, then it's not tat fair to those
> > helping. So it's always a 2-sided coins ;)
> >
> > Just like playing RTS game. If u hack a saved game and play the game
by
> > building only the more powerful units to rush ya opponents, u will
never
> > learn the usefulness of other units. For most of the solo campaign
game,
> > normally there is 1 or 2 missions where the most powerful unit (which
is
> > normally slowest) is no longer a useful element in completing the
mission.
> > At this stage, only those players who really play from scatch will be
> able
> > to tackle the problems and complete the mission safely.
> >
> > Some players reached lvl 50 first, some reach lvl 50 later. Ultimately
we
> > will all be lvl 50s. Just ask yaself, what kinda lvl 50 u wanna be? ;)
> > FYI there are some lvl 49 players in EQ who even lost their way in
South
> > Karan, si-bek jiat-lat, hahahah ;P
> >
> > I myself is one of those few amg local kakis tat started a char in
Prexus
> > when it's first up. With my wiz experience in Inno, I make a really
cool
> > wiz char in Prexus. H/w, dun to the lack of kakis, I find training
there
> > is very boring. In the end I follow the rest back to Inno. Now u may
> say,
> > it's not tat difficult to find grp members to hunt with, but I must
> comment
> > that it's VERY difficult to find TRUST-WORHTY kakis in the game. Ask
> > veteran players like Sereph and Garren, their feeling when someone in
the
> > grp looted the camped stuffs, disband and run off? ;) At least in
Inno, I
> > know who I can fight together...to death. Until now I still remember
the
> > newbie named David in Prexus, who disband from the team when we striked
a
> > skelly train near Ak'non dragon bone land. When some of the team
members
> > asked him why he disband after the battle, he said he was LD, while I
> > myself saw him running to guards with my own eyes ;)
> >
> > Ziltus
> >
> > p/s: I read form a EQ site that the numbers of casters armors
discovered
> is
> > only less than 10% of all the casters armors in the game ;) Just tat
> > casters sux in adventuring (we are better in camping) due to train and
> > random spawn, we dun discover as many casters stuffs like those tanks
out
> > there.
> >
> >
> > On Friday, 03 September, 1999 2:44 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
> > [SMTP:sccheng@...] wrote:
> > > From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
> > >
> > > if u r looking to get twinked... i suggest u go prexus... Mazy will
> twink
> > u
> > > good... as fer innoruuk... most likely u get some plat and dont think
> > anyone
> > > will really twink u... thast my comments...
> > >
> > > im on innoruuk.. but more or less retired... bcos the econ that is
all
> > > screwed... i guessim the type that i rather build from scratch myself
> and
> > > build up from there... so i end up in Tribunal... still new n very
> > > playable...
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Fred
> > > p/s : i do go innoruuk once in awhile... but only get to play during
> > > weekends... so not too often...
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Lim choong Ee <choongee@...>
> > > To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 3:32 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] How many of u guys at Tribunal?
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Lim choong Ee <choongee@...>
> > > >
> > > > maybe i will create one in innoru, just want to ask how many
> > > > of u is in the same guild and what the usual time u all play
> > > > in singapore timing?maybe in weekday can play n team with u
> > > > guys in the night time.
> > > > hehe ont thing, like to know what the guild is lacking what
> > > > classes? so i know what to play n choose to benefit the kakis
> > > > n in the cause u had to twink me good and i will do the power
> > > > lvl myself P.
> > > > and give me name so i know who to look up leh.
> > > >
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