I read an article from EQ-lizer which talks abt the team comparison in TZ.
I wanna to copy & paste to the mailing list but it's already taken down
from the site. Anyway I will try to recap the main points. Let break the
4 teams into:
A. human, erudite, barbarian (the goons)
B. high elf, wood elf, half elf (the slims)
C. gnome, dwarf, halfling (the shorties)
D. dark elf, troll, ogre (the gansters)
The main points are as follows:
1. Amg the 4 teams, talk abt power-play, order from best to worst is D, C,
A, B (yeah, good races elves stats sux in EQ)
2. Talk abt the availabity and hunting 'territories" of different races
(taking into consideration of possible races conflicts as well), team D has
the best source of hunting ground.
3. Talk abt unity, team A is the worse since their races is separated while
team D is the best (all same continent).
4. Also take note that FP may be a big conflict land if there is not enuff
humans to enforce the region.
5. Talk abt lvling and lowest xp penalty, order from best to worst: A, B/C,
D
6. Comparing faction and npc relationship, from best to worst: C, A/B, D
IMHO:
- If we are going for fast lvling and willing to take the shit for night
blindness, we shld go for A. (Problem: Low availability of hunting
grounds).
- If we wanan look good and enjoy more roleplay element, we shld go for B
(Problem: Other than look, we sux big time).
- If we dun mind short sighted and wanna power play good races, we shld go
for C. (Problem: We look ugly)
- If we wanna rule and inflict fear to all hearts and power-play in own
server, we shld go for D. (Problem: we will be KOS in most area, not just
PvP but also PvNPC)
Now, just to reply some earlier queries:
Entreri:
FYI real neutral race like gnome is not KOS in evil race region. So when a
gnome walk into DE city, they will charge him very expensive for buying
stuffs but they will not KOS him, unless his faction worse after killing
too many DE alliances.
Erudite and Barb are not nentral races I think. From the EQ Guide, only
gnome with another 1 or 2 races (dwarf and halfling?) are true neutral
races. H/w, due to the faction developed later, they can be KOS by evil
races npcs.
Leshrec:
Entreri is talking abt alignment, which mainly affect the relationship with
npc, ie good, neutral and evil.
In TZ, there are actually 4 teams (which involved PvP relationship):
human, erudite, barbarian (the goons)
high elf, wood elf, half elf (the slims)
gnome, dwarf, halfling (the shorties)
dark elf, troll, ogre (the gansters)
Hope this explains.
Ziltus
On Wednesday, 28 July, 1999 3:24 PM, Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy
[SMTP:
sccheng@...] wrote:
> From: "Cheng Shan Chieh, Freddy" <sccheng@...>
>
> I think its 4 sides... like wat Leshrec says... btw whats everyone op on
> this? u guys gonna shift? I will still prefer to be Dark Elf if we
shift...
> if not High Elves....
>
> Nicademous
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Leshrec <leshrec@...>
> To: <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
>
>
> > From: "Leshrec" <leshrec@...>
> >
> > 3 sides? Wasn't it 4 sides with dwarves, halfings and gnomes forming
> another
> > side? Not sure so please confirm..
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Entreri <drizzt@...>
> > To: sg-everquest@onelist.com <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 3:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> >
> >
> > >From: "Entreri" <drizzt@...>
> > >
> > >Ok let me expain how the racewar server works.
> > >Good Races:WoodElf,HighElf,Half-Elf,Halflings,Dwarf
> > >
> > >Neutral:Gnome,Humans,Erudites,Barbarians
> > >
> > >Evil:DarkElf,Troll,Orge
> > >
> > >NPC Guards of the Goody races will not KOS Goody and Neutral Races and
> will
> > >KOS Evil Races
> > >
> > >NPC Guards of the Evil Races will KOS all Goody races and
> Neutral-Goodclass
> > >races
> > >
> > >HOWEVER,different groups can PvP different groups players which means
let
> > >say a human walks into Kelethin,he would not be KOS by guards BUT
could
> be
> > >killed by Elves..
> > >
> > >I think this should clear things up
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Entreri
> > >
> > >Email: drizzt@...
> > >ICQ UIN: 2326860
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> > >http://www.sg-gaming.net
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> > >
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> > >http://www.wplan.com/cgibin/directplan.cgi?name=Entreri&viewpass=
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >To: 'sg-everquest@onelist.com' <sg-everquest@onelist.com>
> > >Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:51 AM
> > >Subject: RE: [sg-everquest] Tallon Zek Proposal
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: LKW <leekw13@...>
> > >>
> > >>I'm neutral to the shifting, I just follow the majority kakis's
> decision,
> > >>even thou my wiz is just half bubb to lvl 24 (shld have lvl if not
becoz
> > of
> > >>server down last night).
> > >>
> > >>Personally I think TZ server will be a very difficult server yet
filled
> > >>with roleplay elements. Ever since we play EQ for so long, I bet by
now
> > >>most of us know what we wanna be, how to train what our char and
possess
> > >>with, at least, the basic survival knowledge. Compared to the time
when
> I
> > >>start EQ w/o been a beta player, I was wrong at that time when making
> > >>certain decisions, particularly how my char is created.
> > >>
> > >>Nevertheless, I will stick to Wiz even if we were to shift over to
the
> new
> > >>server. Life is gonna be tough (esp the the begining stage, like
wanna
> > die
> > >>cannot die, wanna live cannot live) but if it's a race war server,
that
> > >>mean we better select to be under the same team. With the same team,
I
> > bet
> > >>it will be much easier for us to hunt together.
> > >>
> > >>I'm for Erudite Wiz - with max INT pump in. Life will be harder than
a
> HE
> > >>since ER dun have infravision (tried once in Prexus making a ER Wiz
and
> > >>find it VERY difficult to play w/o light, kena whack
up-down-left-right
> > >>shortly after I walked out of city).
> > >>
> > >>I leave the decision to the majority and my heart follow the
majority.
> > Just
> > >>make sure this is the LAST migration, IF we have decided to shift.
> > >>
> > >>Btw, can someone enllighten me on the following:
> > >>In normal server, npc only KOS char of different alignment (eg DE
kena
> KOS
> > >>in all elfs settlements, human kena KOS in Troll/Ogre territory, BUT
> human
> > >>wont be KOS in elf terrority). May I know if a char of good race
walk
> > into
> > >>the city of ANOTHER TEAM which is ALSO a good race, will the char
kena
> > KOS?
> > >> Eg HE and Human are considered good races yet under different team,
> will
> > a
> > >>human who walk into Felwithe kena KOS by HE npcs?
> > >>- If the answer is yes, then evil races will be a good choice, since
> based
> > >>on EQ'Lizer's article abt race war team comparison, evil races (DE,
> troll,
> > >>Ogre) have some of the best races for most of the classes. They also
> have
> > >>advantages since they have more access to the better lvling dungeons.
> > >>- If the answer is no (ie human char can go to elf shop buying
supplies
> > w/o
> > >>been KOS), I will go for human, erudite and barbarian, they can lvl
> > >>fastest. Thou life is hard in the begining w/o light, but the reward
> will
> > >>pay off at the later stage. Erudite makes the most powerful casters
at
> > >>high lvl, Barbarian make excellent tankers and human is the most
> flexible
> > >>amg all races, plus no xp penalty - see how someone in Inno lvl so
damn
> > >>fast? hehe.
> > >>
> > >>Ziltus
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Tuesday, 27 July, 1999 9:25 PM, Entreri
[SMTP:
drizzt@...]
> > >>wrote:
> > >>> Hi guys,
> > >>> I propose that we all move to Tallon Zek[PvP Teams].Okay here are
my
> > >>SUGGESTIONS on why we MIGHT wanna move there.However if there isnt
much
> > >>support,I will stay in Innoruuk with u guys.All critisims are
welcomed!
> > >>>
> > >>> 1.Guild:Okay,lets face it,for normal servers,Guild aint of much fan
> > >>except of a tag there.I foresee that if a guild is set up in Tallon
> Zek,it
> > >>would be much more meaningfull in the sense that when everyone has a
> > common
> > >>goal and at the same time roleplaying WHAT it should be[huh?A paladin
> and
> > >>SK chatting with each other?].Serious roleplaying could be carried to
> the
> > >>fullest and the tension when going over zones which WILL encourage
> > grouping
> > >>>
> > >>> 2.New Server.Since its new,it would be nice that there will be
players
> > >>around to group.
> > >>>
> > >>> 3.MAIN POINT:The tension!This time,you would be much more carefull
> going
> > >>through zones and when buddies come the fullest and where racism too
> > >>:).Although all the Singaporean EQ Players would be best if same
> > >>group,however we could have some not in this group so they could set
up
> > >>their own guild and wage war with us which WILL defintely improve the
SG
> > EQ
> > >>community.If we could not be friends,we could be still foes :)
> > >>>
> > >>> 4.ok..high level players..ahem Garren...There seems to be a quest
to
> > >>switch servers though I do not encourage this coz it would be more
fun
> if
> > >>everyone same level.
> > >>>
> > >>> 5.SG Mauling:heh..Imagine all 35SG players on this list play same
> group
> > >>and have a FULLSCALE invasion on Freeport?hehe...imagine the fun..
> > >>>
> > >>> 6.The spirit bond BTW on SG players will defintely tighten with
> this..:)
> > >>>
> > >>> 7.Makes higher lv SGs get good items for their lower SG
counterparts
> so
> > >>our SG strength could be increased.[Note:Coz 300levels4s could maul a
> > >>level50?]
> > >>>
> > >>> 8.We could have serious planning on what class to use so we would
not
> be
> > >>as messy as now...
> > >>>
> > >>> 9.We had PROBABLY wrongly configured our chr in the past so it
would
> be
> > a
> > >>nice change
> > >>>
> > >>> 10.SGs players are now split into 2..mainly the highlevels and low
> > >>levels..It would be nice if this everyone would be same level again
> > >>>
> > >>> Thx for reading...just my 2cents
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Entreri
> > >>>
> > >>> Email: drizzt@...
> > >>> ICQ UIN: 2326860
> > >>> Previewer, Singularity Gaming Network
> > >>> http://www.sg-gaming.net
> > >>> Your Single Source of Everything Gaming
> > >>>
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> > >>>
> > >>>
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