Steven,

I think you misunderstood. I am NOT the naysayer. I was saying that in response to Matt's email which was largely filled with negativism that the game would end in a couple years. The point of my post is that I will be playing EQ for as long as EQ is around to be played. Be that 2 years, 5 years, or 25 years. The original purpose of my EQ math post was to show that IF EQ is around in 25 years then the in-game date will have caught up with where EQ2 supposedly begins. That's all. The speculation on what would happen to the game within that time frame is what brought about the topic of whether or not the game would survive that long. Personally, I hope it does.

Wulfric

----- Original Message -----

From: Steven R. Hulse

To: EverQuest@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 6:20 PM

Subject: Re: [EverQuest] EQ math

No Wulfric, you are not the only naysayer. I just haven't had a chance to reply yet. LOL Like you I do not believe that SOE will get rid of their biggest cash cow, (And still is) I still meet people on a weekly basis (average of at least 10) who are brand new to the game. (EQ1 +/- any scam artists in that bunch) EQ1 is still alive and strong, there are no plans for EQ1 to "catch up" with EQ2, thats up to you the individual player to use your imagination and "fill in the gaps" so to speak when you make the switch to EQ2. From the start SOE said that EQ2 is a complete change from EQ1. Also think of it this way, do music groups have the same songs on every album? No. They are always changing to appeal to the masses. If they put the same songs on every album you would eventually get bored with it and every time you hear them on the radio it would be basically the same song but with different words. EQ2 is a "sequel" to EQ1 just as "The Matrix Reloaded" is a "sequel" to "The Matrix". I'm sure that SOE would like everyone to move over to EQ2 but they know and accept the fact that not everyone has a powerful enough computer to run EQ2. I don't. Plus I have so many things to do in EQ1 first before I move on to another game. Another thing to consider, I have met players who have been in the game for 5 years or more! Imagine the cash SOE has made off these people! There will always be new games on the market. Look at WoW, The Matrix, the new D&D game coming out. and one I saw that just looks awesome Lineage II, The graphics are amazing. Honestly if I "had" to switch, thats the one I would go to. Also if you look at MMORPG.com they list Guild Wars as the top game right now plus they list all the MMORPG games out there. (There are more than you think!) So take all those into consideration and then look at how well EQ1 has done compared to all of those others out there. EQ1 is still the giant and will always be a major contender. Just my 2 cents Durgaa Ranger of Bristlebane Guild Leader of Mystic Crusaders EQ1 Chapter Anyway thats just my 2 cents. EverQuest@yahoogroups.com wrote: ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 20:05:47 -0400 From: "Wulfric Rennison" <wulftech@...> Subject: Re: Re: EQ math Well I suppose someone had to step up and be the naysayer in the group. I'm not sure if I agree with most of this or not. I've always said that as long as EQ is around I'll keep playing it. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. Wulfric ----- Original Message ----- From: M To: EverQuest@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: [EverQuest] Re: EQ math Nah, EQ1 has a remaining life of maybe 2 more years, but that is stretching it a bit. Even as SOEs major flagship game, SOE is seeing the darkness at the end of the tunnel. They will be spending more money to maintain the game than they are bringing in with subscriptions dropping more and more each month. I think SOE "may" try to revitilize EQ by releasing a completely new graphics engine and serious upgrade for the game, but this would be optional and only be window dressing since there is not too much they can do with the backend servers without a complete game overhaul, which they just are not going to do. EQ2 was a serious disapointment to them, as the players were already use to EQ1 and the social structure there. It does sadden me a bit that EQ will come to a close, but we all knew it would happen eventually. I doubt SOE will ever cancel EQ completely (at least not for another 5 or so years), but I would imagine the day when new expansion are no longer released, patches are no longer made, and maybe one or two servers are all that are left is not too far around the corner.... like I said, maybe 2 years. I doubt there will ever be another game that has the same appeal and drive that SOE captured with EQ1... however I think we might find that another game may come close only after SOE "pulls the plug" on EQ1 and forces everyone to find another game. We may see a game in the future released from SOE along the same genre of EverQuest, but with a completely different story line and perhaps even the same stayability of EverQuest, but I rather doubt it. I think SOE will end up making their bread and butter with shoot-offs of the Star Wars Universe and maybe some other games like they offer on the station website (jeopardy, wheel of fortune, etc), while another game company with the same spirit that SOE had long ago steps up to take the lead. I would say the next big game will be Vanguard : Saga of Heros. I think that Brad and Jeff have both learned a lot from their experience helping shape EverQuest, and Microsoft (one of the biggest backers of Sigil) has learned from its mistakes in the online game field and won't make the same mistakes again. SOE has started loosing its grip on the market and Microsoft has a habit of stepping in and taking over when something like that happens. I mean look at Nintendo, Sega, and even Sony. They started slipping in the console game industry and Microsoft stepped in with the X-Box and dominated the market by throwing money at the market till they owned it. Now the best graphics for console games out there are on X-Box, even if content is still split evenly but leaning more towards X-Box as time goes on. Matt aka Dragowulf Bowcraft (Ranger of The Tribunal) Dulcere the Furryfooted Ranger (Retired Guide of Erollisi Marr) --- In EverQuest@yahoogroups.com, Su <suceress@d...> wrote: > Oh cool!! > I don't know if EQ1 will still be around then though. Plus EQ2 could be considered a parrallel universe. > I didn't know Luclin had exploded in EQ2. Did they say the story behind why? What happened to the poor Vah Shir? > I imagine in 25 years the game interfaces will be much more advanced. Maybe there will be EQ 1.5 or 1.9A or something. :-D > luv, > -Su > > ======= At 2005-04-28, 01:44:00 you wrote: ======= > > >Check this out. > > > >72 minutes real time = 1 day game time > > > >You can check it if you want, I haven't verified it. > > > >Soooooooo...... > > > >72 X 365 = 26280 minutes real time > > > >26280 / 60 = 438 hours > > > >438 / 24 = 18.25 days > > > >18.25 days real time = 1 year on Norrath > > > >or roughly two and a half weeks. > > > > > >Current game date as of this writing is March 11, 3200. EQ2 is supposed to take place 500 years in Norrath's future. Luclin explodes, Kunark is nowhere to be found. So how long will it take before EQ1 catches up with EQ2?? > > > >18.25 X 500 = 9125 days real time > > > >9125 / 365 = 25 years!!! > > > > > >So if you play EverQuest for 25 years, you will reach the year 3700 game time in which case you should see the moon explode and you'll know what happened to Kunark. > > > >Cool huh? > > > >Wulfric > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.10.4 - Release Date: 4/27/2005 Visit the EverQuest homepage at http://www.everquest.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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