Yeah. You have a point. I guess I haven't been on many raids where people
were purposely screwing around. Most of the time it has been people who were
confused and having lag issues. I tend to raid with people who are friends.
My guildies are good about not screwing around. If something goes wrong it's
not bc they weren't trying to listen. Although I think a couple times some
nonguildies have joined the raid and then not listened and caused problems.
I suppose I might be harsher on non-guildies bc the guildies are all
friends. We're like a family.
On non-guild raids (by that I mean raids I attended with guilds not my own)
I had the misfortune of having the raid leader not listen. I was asked in
raid channel to buff certain people by the raid leader. I then needed to
med. I told him I was medding but he went and pulled Vox... I ran out of
mana trying to keep my group alive. Lost 3 members of the group after I
announced I was OOM-- just before Vox summoned me over and killed me.
CR took a looong time. But I still had fun. Nobody got pissed off. (except
for the corpse puller bc one person kept asking if their corpse had been
located over and over and over).
luv,
-Su
>
> When the alternative is being alone and ungrouped on a
> raid, I'll assume that accepting the TL is the only
> option.
>
> > And I would never use that tactic with my own
> guildies. That's just rude.
> > It's a game. It should be fun. And yeah, getting wiped
> out from someone not
> > listening isn't very fun, but I think it's even less
> fun to be nasty to
> > people.
>
> It has nothing to do with being nasty. As a RL (or even
> a participant in a raid), I have an obligation to
> everyone on that raid to make it go as smoothly as
> possible. And if someone is repeatedly doing something
> to put the raid at risk, then the RL has an obligation
> to "protect" the rest of the raiders.
>
> It's a 2-way street, Su. If someone is screwing around,
> wasting other people's time, why should I allow him to
> stay on the raid? I will give respect to nayone that
> earns it, but if a person doesn't have the decency to
> respect the RL and the raiders, I'm not going to get
> upset when I boot him (or when the RL boots him) from
> the raid.
>
> A 2hr CR at midnight really sucks, especially if you
> have to get up early the next morning for work. It's
> far worse when it's caused by some jack@ss that doesn't
> feel the need to listen.
>
> That's not to say we don't have fun on our raids,
> because we do. But we know that when it's time to get
> to work, the play time stops.
>
> And if I wante to be nasty, I'd leave them in the zone,
> ungroupsed, with no way to get out. Or I'd let them die
> and get their own damn corpse. A TL is humane.
>
> Sulamwen
> Outrider of <Fate's Forge>
> E'ci
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