tech question...have an SB Live! sound card...get sounds fine for effects
etc. but no music ever...is there a known problem with this?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 6:35 AM
Subject: [EverQuest] Digest Number 43
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> 1. Re: What's missing in Everquest?
> From: "Whitmore, Lance" <lwhitmore@...>
> 2. Re: What's missing in Everquest?
> From: Coot402@...
> 3. Re: What's missing in Everquest?
> From: "Whitmore, Lance" <lwhitmore@...>
> 4. Who Friends
> From: Alex Dalis <dalisa@...>
> 5. Re: Who Friends
> From: Maddog <maddog@...>
> 6. Re: zoning
> From: "Mikael Laine" <laine@...>
> 7. Re: zoning
> From: "Michael Wyatt" <mwyatt@...>
> 8. Frozen
> From: "Kevin Nguyen" <miniydr@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:01:34 -0400
> From: "Whitmore, Lance" <lwhitmore@...>
> Subject: Re: What's missing in Everquest?
>
> Mike please refrain from personal attacks on people, everyone is entitled
to
> their opinion. This is how ideas are exchanged.
>
> Thanks for your understanding.
>
> Ves
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Laine [mailto:laine@...]
> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 1999 8:35 PM
> To: EverQuest@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?
>
>
> From: "Mikael Laine" <laine@...>
>
> Bah. Get a life. I have no problems with that and I'm from Sweden. I know
I
> can't spell very well but at least I try and succeed many times (unless
> dumbasses like you add a "nice" post)
>
> Sorry just a bit frustrated.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mikael Laine / MCSE
> System Engineer
> Exide Nordic
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> Fr�n: MFerrulo@... <MFerrulo@...>
> Till: EverQuest@onelist.com <EverQuest@onelist.com>
> Datum: den 7 maj 1999 04:32
> �mne: Re: [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?
>
>
> >From: MFerrulo@...
> >
> >In a message dated 5/5/99, 7:03:05 PM, EverQuest@onelist.com writes:
> ><<Everquest is best thing what i see in online gaming, from graphic to
> sound
> >and grup sistem but it still miss much things wich leaves too much place
to
> >concurent products to enter.
> >
> >First it is hard to add new zones or monsters it request huge uploads (
> >this can be corrected with addon discs but it is another question),
loading
> >of zones is realy messed up if you just exit one zone it takes soooo long
> >to reload it again it will be nice to have 2 zones in memory if you have
> >enough memory for this (i have 128 mb).
> >
> >it is concentrated on gruping but too hard for solo play for some classes
> >and i dont like to play necromancer or any pet holder, and gruping have
> >much flows wich need corection and additional balancing like higer lv
mages
> >and wizards.
> >
> >Also there are too low gains from questing and one thing wich can add
much
> >to game can be a god questing sistem where many diferent players must
> >cooperate to reach some target but for now it is only killing stronger
MOB
> >and if you spend 5 hours to resolve quest and in end you dont know a
right
> >word wich you hear on other side of continent you make all way back write
a
> >right word on paper go back and say it only to get 1 rusty sword and 5
> >copper as a 12 lv caracter not to see any move on your experience bar it
is
> >realy bad. i do it 3 times to 3 diferent quests and as i try hardest
things
> >what i found and after this reward i lost wish to try again.
> >
> >to be thrue it will be nice to get experience also for trading skills and
> >give them more variants so a posibility to make all normal armours and
> >weapons. And it will be nice to have possibility to make a dragon leather
> >armour ( hint hint)
> >
> >It will be nice to have some chests wich thiefs can picklock.
> >
> >Fishing some other things then normal fishs, or other stramge things like
> >boots with a gen in bag with a surprise big fish wich will pull you in
> >water and cast summon pirana swarm on you eheheeh
> >
> >It will be nice to have a place where you can leave your goods to sell
and
> >where you must pass evry now and then to collect all income or it is lost
> >put this place on some lost plane or limit sellers to some level range, i
> >wish to buy a totem stah and all mana gain equipment but as im from
europe
> >and i play normaly when all servers are empty i cannot buy or sell nearly
> >anything. and i play on fenin ro wich is all time full. ( hmm maybe i
will
> >move from rathe mountains not too much people know where this place is
> >eheheheh)
> >
> >It is great and wonderfull world but for now it is a little bit empty it
> >needs a soul, a movement a random orc attacks on kelethim, dark elf
rampage
> >on freeport, dragon flying in sky in unknown direction, strange never
seen
> >beast in dark wood to start legends. More inteligence in program to make
> >world looks more diferent so that finaly a camping is not more
interesting.
> >It is not need for human intervence it can be done by program if you
leave
> >a orc camp and in zone is many players then why not that orcs group and
> >start hunting around geting items from falen (eheheh at last some money
so
> >bank will get some real signifikance). Other similar products will come
> >soon big bad MS is preparing to enter in game on big door ( i just read a
> >news on its site it will bring some interesting news) the other players
are
> >also on front door for bringing something new soon everquest will not be
> >only game in 3d rpg town and if a game is not interesting enough when
> >others come in play ? .... ?
> >
> >
> >
> >P.S. I like this game very very much and all this critics are only in
hope
> >that it will give some ideas how to make it better and that i will be
shure
> >to play it long long time as i enjoy it now. ( my english is not maxed
jet
> >sorry)
> >>>
> >
> >If English is your 2nd language, then I aplologize for this post. That
> said,
> >GOOD LORD MAN get a dictionary!!!!! Your spelling is so bad I can't even
> >read your post.
> >
> >Wizaro
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:24:34 EDT
> From: Coot402@...
> Subject: Re: What's missing in Everquest?
>
> >Mike please refrain from personal attacks on people, everyone is entitled
to
> >their opinion. This is how ideas are exchanged.
>
> >Thanks for your understanding.
>
> >Ves
> let me refresh your memory a little, the original letter here was written
> with, shall we say not the best spelling.
> this comment was then added
>
> >If English is your 2nd language, then I aplologize for this post. That
> said,
> >GOOD LORD MAN get a dictionary!!!!! Your spelling is so bad I can't even
> >read your post.
> >
> >Wizaro
>
> Now this is totally wrong. and mike posts this.
>
> >Bah. Get a life. I have no problems with that and I'm from Sweden. I know
I
> >can't spell very well but at least I try and succeed many times (unless
> >dumbasses like you add a "nice" post)
>
> >Sorry just a bit frustrated.
>
> >Cheers,
>
> >Mikael Laine / MCSE
> >System Engineer
>
> And you want to bust him. Give me a break. Why didn't you post that after
> Wizaro. Not everyone speaks good english, and if we are going to bust
people
> when they try. why don't you go and try playing a game based in France and
> see how good your French is
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:03:22 -0400
> From: "Whitmore, Lance" <lwhitmore@...>
> Subject: Re: What's missing in Everquest?
>
> Forgive me if I didn't see the original post, but does that in anyway
> justify the flame that was sent... and might I add yours. I only read
> someone's reaction and I wanted to make an attempt to halt any further
post
> in that direction. Unfortunately you felt the need to personally attack
> me.. therefore might I repeat my suggestion.
>
> Please refrain from personal attacks on people, everyone is entitled to
> their opinion. This is how ideas are exchanged.
>
> Thanks for your understanding.
>
> If that statement in someway offends you.. I apologize.
>
> Ves
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coot402@... [mailto:Coot402@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 1999 4:25 PM
> To: EverQuest@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [EverQuest] What's missing in Everquest?
>
>
> From: Coot402@...
>
> >Mike please refrain from personal attacks on people, everyone is entitled
> to
> >their opinion. This is how ideas are exchanged.
>
> >Thanks for your understanding.
>
> >Ves
> let me refresh your memory a little, the original letter here was written
> with, shall we say not the best spelling.
> this comment was then added
>
> >If English is your 2nd language, then I aplologize for this post. That
> said,
> >GOOD LORD MAN get a dictionary!!!!! Your spelling is so bad I can't even
> >read your post.
> >
> >Wizaro
>
> Now this is totally wrong. and mike posts this.
>
> >Bah. Get a life. I have no problems with that and I'm from Sweden. I know
I
> >can't spell very well but at least I try and succeed many times (unless
> >dumbasses like you add a "nice" post)
>
> >Sorry just a bit frustrated.
>
> >Cheers,
>
> >Mikael Laine / MCSE
> >System Engineer
>
> And you want to bust him. Give me a break. Why didn't you post that after
> Wizaro. Not everyone speaks good english, and if we are going to bust
people
>
> when they try. why don't you go and try playing a game based in France and
> see how good your French is
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:46:35 -0400
> From: Alex Dalis <dalisa@...>
> Subject: Who Friends
>
> Ok, back to an EQ topic....
>
> I was just wondering what people thought about this. I have a couple
> characters (Mithe on Cathic-Thule and another druid there). Everytime I
> get to that character selection screen I debate, should I play my ranger
> or druid. If I play the druid I will greatly fall behind my friends that
> only play one character. To solve this I'd love to see /who friends
> available from the character selection or server selection screen that
> way i could tell who was on and on which server. Say I click on
> Cathic-Thule and see my high level friends are not on I could decide to
> start a new character on PVP server etc...
>
> Let me know what you think. If you agree petition or suggest this when
> online.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:13:53 -0500
> From: Maddog <maddog@...>
> Subject: Re: Who Friends
>
> I agree good idea so you can see whose online prior to playing!!! Great
> addition and not to hard for prgrammers to add in!
> Scio
> Tunare
>
> Alex Dalis wrote:
>
> > From: Alex Dalis <dalisa@...>
> >
> > Ok, back to an EQ topic....
> >
> > I was just wondering what people thought about this. I have a couple
> > characters (Mithe on Cathic-Thule and another druid there). Everytime I
> > get to that character selection screen I debate, should I play my ranger
> > or druid. If I play the druid I will greatly fall behind my friends that
> > only play one character. To solve this I'd love to see /who friends
> > available from the character selection or server selection screen that
> > way i could tell who was on and on which server. Say I click on
> > Cathic-Thule and see my high level friends are not on I could decide to
> > start a new character on PVP server etc...
> >
> > Let me know what you think. If you agree petition or suggest this when
> > online.
> >
> > thanks
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:30:17 +0200
> From: "Mikael Laine" <laine@...>
> Subject: Re: zoning
>
> I think all this zoning can have something to do with your connection. I'm
pretty sure that it has to do with your computer.
>
> However when someone said it has to do with IP i think they are right
(well almost).
>
> I don't think it's the size that matters (umm ok ehe...)..
>
> I believe it has to do with how good your connection is between a and b.
Doesn't matter if you're on a T3 if you have a ISP between you and UUNET
that connects with only V.90 or a 128 Kb frame relay.
>
> As for what it transfers I'm sure it doesn't transfer much zone info. If
it would transfer everything about NPCs, PCs, your inventory and such it
would be way easy to cheat. Everyone that is making an online game knows
that if you allow the client to store gamingdata (such as amount of money
with more) the client can pretty easy freeze the memory and add a few
billion bucks (like diablo where the client told the server what kind of
spells and such it had). Second point is that I have a hard time to believe
that EQ goes for TCP, I think much of the traffic is UDP which would remove
some lag. However the zoning traffic may be TCP to ensure the delivery, I
believe the delay in zoning could be that the server tells the client to
hold on (Wait while loading or what ever) and then sends zoning info to the
client. The client loads whatever the server tells it to load. The client
tells the server that it's done. The server tells the client when it's time
to "open" the zone. In clear words, I believe it depends on the latency to
the server you are releasing and the new server you are connecting to.
>
> To those who likes zoning.
> This is like cheating to me. If you fight a monster or get attacked it
would be much more fair if the monster followed you to the other zone. To
zone as a "get a way" tactic is wimpy. I have to admit that I have done it
but this is not the way I fight. This is like using safe spots to fight.
>
> That's many believes but I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mikael Laine / MCSE
> System Engineer
> Exide Nordic
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> Fr�n: NYR21@... <NYR21@...>
> Till: EverQuest@onelist.com <EverQuest@onelist.com>
> Datum: den 7 maj 1999 23:40
> �mne: Re: [EverQuest] zoning
>
>
> >From: NYR21@...
> >
> >I connect is my isp at a halarious 21600. Running eq on a p2 450 w/128
ram it
> >takes me no longer than 10 seconds to zone. Seems to be heavily dependent
on
> >your comp rather than connection speed.
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:50:29 +1000
> From: "Michael Wyatt" <mwyatt@...>
> Subject: Re: zoning
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mikael Laine [mailto:laine@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 7:30 AM
> > To: EverQuest@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [EverQuest] zoning
> >
> > To those who likes zoning.
> > This is like cheating to me. If you fight a monster or get
> > attacked it would be much more fair if the monster followed you
> > to the other zone. To zone as a "get a way" tactic is wimpy. I
> > have to admit that I have done it but this is not the way I
> > fight. This is like using safe spots to fight.
> >
> > That's many believes but I just wanted to give my 2 cents.
> >
>
> Well, I am not sure, but I would not do it anyway for two
> good reasons :
> 1) It makes me 1-2 minutes to zone - and the frustration this
> causes is almost unbearable, zoning back and forth would drive
> me insane !
> 2) Ask any necromancer or magician why it is a stupid idea to
> hunt on a zone boundary and zone to escape 8)
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:18:05 GMT
> From: "Kevin Nguyen" <miniydr@...>
> Subject: Frozen
>
> Hey everyone, i got a problem.
> I just got EQ the other day and when i play i sometimes freeze up. From
> zoning and just standing there and i freeze up. Is something wrong with
my
> comp? I have a AMD-350 K6-2, 64 ram, and an ATI Rage Pro video card.
>
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