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Message ID: 2455
Date: Sat Mar 9 10:29:48 GMT 2002
Author: Thomas Delzer
Subject: Re: [EverQuest] EQ Windows Prog


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Yes, but it seems to be the method that most games seem to enjoy using. It is easy for them to control the desktop and it thwarts the casual hacker from trying anything. It is true that it doesn't stop all of the problems and it may even cause a few for those who wish to run things in the background. It is the method that the people who designed EQ want to use though. Legally, it does affect how they wish the game to run so it breaks the EULA that you agree to when you sign into the game each time you play it. I actually have friends that use the program. I don't use it as it takes away from the "EQ" experience in my mind. I think it is a personal choice. I also doubt they have any serious issue with the use of this program. If they did they would have found a way around the program that is out that allows users to play in a window.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Dunbar Keglifter
To: EverQuest@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 2:07 AM
Subject: SV: [EverQuest] EQ Windows Prog

I can think of a few ways to monitor my computers system memory from another computer, all I wanted to point out was that having EQ not run in a window like this is a cheesy and pointless attempt to keep hackers from hacking EQ.. :o
 
- Dun
 
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Whitmore, Lance [mailto:lwhitmore@...]
Skickat: den 8 mars 2002 19:49
Till: 'EverQuest@yahoogroups.com'
Ämne: RE: [EverQuest] EQ Windows Prog

You are correct... you can monitor the network traffic; however, that in itself doesn't alter the actual application or its residence within your systems memory.  You are referring to a sniff application that monitors computer communication traffic and translates the information that can be read by another computer, however, not alter.  Plug-ins that listen for key strokes, such as your WinAmp application do not alter EQ, only intercepts keyboard strokes to activate a 3rd party program.  On the other hand running the application in a window allows you to examine the EQ application and alter its memory storage, while the game is playing, to enact a trainer type hack.   Period...  Laugh all you want, however, that doesn't change the fact that you are violating your agreement when you run such a application. And your ruining the game for legitimate players by encouraging this kind of hack. 

 

****"I also know for a fact that EQ team knows about EQ Windows programs but they know its not a threat to the game. If they had the time and resources they might even change the game engine so that you could run it in a window I bet. ****

 

I guarantee that they are more concerned with a windows program that's more readily available and does more potential harm to their product and the integrity of the game.  Nobody wants another Diablo "fiasco".  Didn't say it's not impossible to still hack the application, but it adds a level of difficulty beyond most individual players.  Besides, they probably only have to add a query to the client and ask if it's running in a window. J



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