You are correct... you can monitor the network traffic; however, that in itself doesn't alter the actual application or its residence within your systems memory. You are referring to a sniff application that monitors computer communication traffic and translates the information that can be read by another computer, however, not alter. Plug-ins that listen for key strokes, such as your WinAmp application do not alter EQ, only intercepts keyboard strokes to activate a 3rd party program. On the other hand running the application in a window allows you to examine the EQ application and alter its memory storage, while the game is playing, to enact a trainer type hack. Period... Laugh all you want, however, that doesn't change the fact that you are violating your agreement when you run such a application. And your ruining the game for legitimate players by encouraging this kind of hack.
****"I also know for a fact that EQ team knows about EQ Windows programs but they know its not a threat to the game. If they had the time and resources they might even change the game engine so that you could run it in a window I bet. ****
I guarantee that they are more concerned with a windows program that's more readily available and does more potential harm to their product and the integrity of the game. Nobody wants another Diablo "fiasco". Didn't say it's not impossible to still hack the application, but it adds a level of difficulty beyond most individual players. Besides, they probably only have to add a query to the client and ask if it's running in a window. J
-----Original Message-----
From: Dunbar Keglifter
[mailto:dunbar@...]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:19
AM
To: EverQuest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: SV: [EverQuest] EQ
Windows Prog
I don't agree, in no way do you need this program to cheat in eq, you can just as well monitor your computer through a second computer, or just use the cheat running in the background or whatever. This program is great for people that like to be able to check their email, run ICQ or browse the web while running EQ. Locking the game to fullscreen does in NO way stop a hacker that wants to hack EQ LOL. Before I upgraded to XP I could already ALT-TAB and back into EQ without running anything whatsoever, it was just a bit tricky to get back in but once you learned how to act when tabbing back it was np.. Btw, the biggest "cheat" for EQ, ShowEQ, runs on a separate computer anyways, you can't even run it in windows since it's a linux program LOL. I also know for a fact that EQ team knows about EQ Windows programs but they know its not a threat to the game. If they had the time and resources they might even change the game engine so that you could run it in a window I bet.
You can also control other programs through EQ if you use plugins for them, such as the plugin for WinAmp(this does not violate EQ agreement since it does not modify EQ nor hack into anything that has to do with EQ itself), that monitors your keystrokes for command sequences that you type to play songs etc. I love this plugin myself and use it daily. =)
- Dunbar
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Whitmore, Lance [mailto:lwhitmore@...]
Skickat: den 8 mars 2002 15:24
Till: 'EverQuest@yahoogroups.com'
Ämne: RE: [EverQuest] EQ Windows ProgYou've created a monster. You do realize this is against the agreement you click on every time you start Everquest. It's a modification of the original program, subsequently a "hack". The only reason this tool was ever developed was to allow players to cheat by running other programs in the background to manipulate the EQ program while it's running. The whole reason EQ runs full screen is an attempt to prevent hackers from ruining the game for everyone. You're kind of naive if you believe it can't be detected if they actually made an attempt to do so. J I can already think of a couple of ways without even being intrusive.
Ah well... Good Luck
-----Original Message-----
From: David Langille [mailto:tuxedomystery2000@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:24 PM
To: EverQuest@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [EverQuest] EQ Windows Prog
whoah! that's possible. I wann download it too, and show it to several people who need it at gamefaqs.com
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