Greetings Mu,
To illustrate the trade up provision that many groups here use, let's say we are
hunting in the crypt in Old Sebilis and you win a ranger helm since no one in
the group can use and they do a group roll in the helm. Later an item that of
greater value drops, you can say "I would like to trade up." You then get to
roll on the new item, if you win it, then your old item (the ranger helm) goes
back into the pot for the others (that have not got an item yet) to roll on and
you get the new item. We figure it is a way to be fair in cause early on, lower
items drop and then we get higher items later. As long as group understands we
are using that proviso, then there is no problem and people accept it. :)
Additionally, we try to do groups that will last long times and do our best to
keep groups together until everyone gets something. This does not always work,
but that is our goal in most groups I hunt with now. Sometimes we form groups
with an agreement to get together on several different occassions to hunt items
for each member in the group, but like I said in earlier post, most grouping
that I participate in is done for experience and fun now versus loot. I have
seen loot become too much of an issue and ruin too many in game friendships.
Please do not get me wrong, I still like to get loot and still need money to buy
items I cannot camp or items that takes long time to camp like some of the
expansion spells I need. I usually like to carry a stack or two of small
coffins on me to be able to help friends in corpse recovery when a camp or raid
goes bad. I do not ask for them to pay for the coffins, I figure it is for me
to return back to the community a little of what I receive from it. :)
I am open to any suggestions that people might have for camp spots for farming
cash cow or loot that is easy to turn into cash. So please if any of you have
any suggestions for hunt spots, please share them. :)
But enough on that, I hope you all have good hunts and fun in EQ. ;)
Waylorn
"Nygaardr, FC3" wrote:
> "We allow people to trade up, when better items drop." How does this work?
> We do the same thing on my server with what you call "king" looter, but we
> call it Commie (common) loot. But how would you do the trade up? We hold
> all items until the end (except those that are Obvious equipment upgrades
> for someone then we roll right then) and lets say 5 good items dropped
> everyone would roll one time 100 to 1000 or 1 to 100 whatever different
> every time and everyone picks in that order. The bulk of the good gems and
> PP would go to the cleric for symbols and maybe some to the enchanter if
> he/she was using Rune a lot. How does the trade up work?
>
> Mu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Moore [mailto:machesta@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:12 PM
> To: EverQuest@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [EverQuest] About loot order
>
> Su,
>
> In most groups that I hunt with now, we use the king looter system, where
> one
> person loots everything and then it is divided out when someone leaves the
> group. If a major item drops, we normally have it go to whomever will use
> it
> first. If no one will use it as a primary item, then it is rolled on by the
> group. We allow people to trade up, when better items drop. Some days we
> might
> only see one or two major items drop. Then other days, we have seen
> multiples
> of items drop and everyone in the party get something good. It is always
> that
> luck element that decides the quality and quantity. Nowadays, I am more
> experienced oriented and fun oriented than loot oriented. Most of the
> places I
> camp do not drop items that are useable by my class or drop items that are
> better than the items I might already have. I do not like loot hogs or
> ninja
> looters, but I am not really concern about loot as long as the system is
> fair
> and everyone understands and agrees to it ahead of the time. :)
>
> It has been ages since I been in a group that use alpha loot or loot to X
> plat
> or whatever. Normally, I really like the king looter system, since it
> allows me
> to concentrate on supporting the party and getting mana back up. ;)
>
> On a side bar, what does FFA stand for. I know I should know it, but I am
> not
> very good with abbreviations.
>
> Tom aka Waylorn Dragonsbane, Druid of 58 seasons
>
> Su wrote:
>
> > Recently in some of the groups I've been in, we've had a few problems with
> > loot order. Often, the tanks will insist on FFA. But since I play the main
> > healer and am expected to sit and med (only getting up to heal) I get
> > totally screwed. I never get loot. But then when we try to establish alpha
> > loot some people complain. They don't care about the casters. All they
> care
> > about is getting loot for themselves. These people partake in
> > "ninja-looting". They loot everything really fast so nobody else gets a
> > chance. And even when we establish a regular loot order some people will
> > still loot out of turn.
> > And then we have times when people say we roll for certain types of loot.
> > When I first joined a group, this one guy told me it was ffa (and he was a
> > ninja-looter) but that "bronze" and ore were rolled for. I saw that he
> > picked up an FS morning star and wanted to roll for it (bc it's an
> expensive
> > item). He said no, it was only for bronze, not FS. So later he picked up a
> > bronze weapon. I said, "ok, let's roll for it". He said, "no, that's only
> > for bronze armor"...
> > Has anyone else had this problem?
> > What do you think is the best and fairest loot order?
> > Just wondering.
> > luv,
> > -Su
> > ps. alpha loot with 3 loots per turn (per person) works pretty well when
> > people cooperate.
> >
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