I gather, then, that BS can be cast on OTHERS?? not just ourselves?
And please explain the 'bonus' after level 20?
From: "Farr, Robert" <
robert.farr@...> on 05/20/99 12:01 PM
PDT
To:
eqenchanters@onelist.com@SMTP@Exchange
cc:
Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 51
From: "Farr, Robert" <
robert.farr@...>
It doesn't make a difference to YOU, as you are a non-melee type
class. It
WILL however, make a difference to 20+ level melee types who start
getting
damage bonuses for high str after level 20. Remember, the enchanter
is a
group class, not a solo class...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: FryyGuyy [SMTP:FryyGuyy@...]
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 1:56 PM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 51
>
> From: FryyGuyy <FryyGuyy@...>
>
> Well i finally got both halfs of page 30 to research my berserker
spell.
> Researched it and walla i succeeded. Only to find out that it does
not do
> what the book and all the web pages say wich is add STR and AGI.
Instead
> it gives me 20 STR and takes away 10 Agility ?? What the hells up
with
> that a buff that takes away something. I've made several different
warrior
> classes experimenting with the different
> stats and #1 althought STR does help i find it far less importent
than dex
> or agility, I'de never trade 20 str for -10 agility. #2 its not
even a
> trade off of 20 STR for -10 AGI ....Instead i can just use lvl 1
STR spell
> add 10 STR to whoever now the only difference between that and
this new
> big bad Berserker STR spell is 10 STR and loosing 10 agility !!!
What
> kinda damn spell is that...
>
> eqenchanters@onelist.com wrote:
>
> > What was YOUR favorite part?!
> > http://www.onelist.com
> > Tell other Star Wars fans at ONElist!
> >
> > There are 22 messages in this issue.
> >
> > Topics in today's digest:
> >
> > 1. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> > 2. Half-pages of Tasarin's Grimoire
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > 3. Re: On alliance again
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > 4. Re: On alliance again
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > 5. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > 6. Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> > From: "Core Leader" <coreleader@...>
> > 7. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > 8. Re: Spells I can't seem to find
> > From: Brian J Ferguson <bjf10@...>
> > 9. level 50 enchanter contd.
> > From: jcent@...
> > 10. Re: jewlcraft levels
> > From: "mark Prescott" <prescotm@...>
> > 11. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: CatsEye543@...
> > 12. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > 13. jewel Craft
> > From: WeinisFROG@...
> > 14. Re: Is Jewelry worthless or what?
> > From: XIII <dlepriol@...>
> > 15. Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> > From: "Manuel Revilla" <manuel.revilla@...>
> > 16. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> > 17. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> > 18. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > 19. Lost email
> > From: "Mike Cummins" <pakrat77@...>
> > 20. System message.
> > From: "Briles" <briles@...>
> > 21. Re: System message.
> > From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> > 22. Re: System message.
> > From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:47:43 -0700
> > From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > At 04:11 PM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> > >
> > >Verant Guy #1: Hmm, sure is quiet in here.
> > >Verant Guy #2: Yeah, all the enchanters are protesting by not
playing.
> > >Verant Guy #1: Really? We'll have to thank them later. Look!
The
> > >feedback list is cut in half today. You sure this isnt' a
holiday?
> >
> > Exactly. This is the opposite of what we need to do, although I
could
> be
> > wrong. It seems as though they are working through improving
the
> classes
> > by way of taking the most used classes first and saving the
least used
> ones
> > last. Think of how many /petitions they would get if the major
Wizard
> bomb
> > spell wasnt working! Or if Spirit of the Wind suddenly worked
like
> Fear.
> > Give them time... I think the thing we must remember is
BALANCE... they
> > must BALANCE the classes, and I'm sure they are aware of this
and know
> what
> > they're doing. Hell, they MADE the game... i'm sure they will
FIX it
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:42:37 -0700
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > Subject: Half-pages of Tasarin's Grimoire
> >
> > I have a bunch that dont match on the Innoruuk Server. Contact
me in the
> > game if interested for trades.
> > Skara the Enchantress
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:23:07 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > Subject: Re: On alliance again
> >
> > At 02:46 PM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
> > >
> >
> > Yes but mesmerize could be resisted. Up until yesterdays patch
Memory
> blur
> > was an Unresistable spell. NOTHING, not even lordd mistmoore
himself
> would
> > resist it. If you ahd tried to use mesmerize in place of memory
blur on
> a
> > sand giant it would ahve resisted it (being red to you) and
stomped youa
> s
> > well as the rest.
> >
> > >Mesmerize does the same for me. I use it all the time on wisps
in
> Erud's
> > >Crossing if I get doubleteamed. I mes one and kill the other. I
have
> never
> > >had the one that I mesmerized attack me again.
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Hapke, Matthew [SMTP:mahapke@...]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:53 PM
> > >> To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> > >> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> > >>
> > >> From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> > >>
> > >> I have had whirl, just this morning, last for less then 2
seconds, 7
> > >> times in a row. It never lasts full duration at all, and I
am
> fighting
> > >> blues, totally. Risky or dangerous, doesn't seem to matter.
> > >>
> > >> Memory Blur is what I would deem a get out of Jail free card.
It is a
> > >> second chance basically. Against Non Agressive beasts, it is
a
> do-over.
> > >> It stops them in their tracks, and makes em forget. It
doesn't freeze
> > >> them like mez does. But, my big use for it was saving a
beach full
> of
> > >> Croc surfers from the wet sandal fate. Up comes the big hill
giant,
> out
> > >> goes the Memory Blur, bingo! Instantly make 20 new friends =)
I
> don't
> > >> think I will try this much now, considering the giant will
resist me.
> > >> That was the only situation I found it useful for.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: Farr, Robert [SMTP:robert.farr@...]
> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:37 PM
> > >> > To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> > >> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> > >> >
> > >> > From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
> > >> >
> > >> > I haven't had any problems with whirl. In what way is it
supposed
> to
> > >> > be
> > >> > broken?
> > >> >
> > >> > I haven't had any problem with memory blur because I am
still using
> > >> > mesmerize. I didn't notice that memory blur offered
anything else
> > >> > besides an
> > >> > increased mana use...
> > >> >
> > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > From: Hapke, Matthew [SMTP:mahapke@...]
> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:36 PM
> > >> > > To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> > >> > >
> > >> > > From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > IMproved the effectiveness of what spells?!?
> > >> > > I have seen these improvements for us lately:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 1. Memory Blur can now be resisted.
> > >> > > 2. Whirl Can now be broken
> > >> > > 3. Whirl now has a horridly random amount of time.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > So, what exactly is better here?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: Shawn Alley [SMTP:ShawnA@...]
> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:23 PM
> > >> > > > To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From: Shawn Alley <ShawnA@...>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Variant just improved the effectiveness of some spells.
They
> may
> > >> > work
> > >> > > > on this spell (and others) if we continue to let them
know the
> > >> > spell
> > >> > > > isn't doing what we expected. So keep your hopes up,
this line
> of
> > >> > > > spells may be more powerful at some point!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > From: HiFi Review [mailto:hifireview@...]
> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:18 PM
> > >> > > > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > >> > > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > From: HiFi Review <hifireview@...>
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Then we can save a few coppers on our 100PP + platinum
bars.
> :)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --- Rob Berryhill <racefan@...> wrote:
> > >> > > > > From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > It's pretty much worthless. If you use it for an
> > >> > > > > item that costs 100+pp you
> > >> > > > > *might* save a copper or two.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Djar Lightbringer(Tarew Marr Server)
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> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > Subject: Re: On alliance again
> >
> > At 01:15 PM 5/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > Screw that. The other classes are nowhere near as broke as we
are yet
> they
> > don't get gimped. What about thsoe 6 level 16 necros who take
down a
> sand
> > gaint? Could 6 levle 16's of any other class do that? I think
not. Why?
> > Because they have an Unresistable spell. And its a damage spell
too. So
> why
> > is Verant screwing with removing our non damaging unresistable
spell
> when
> > Necros get one that allows them to do stuff no other class can?
> > Favoritsm perhaps?
> >
> > >From: Shawn Alley <ShawnA@...>
> > >
> > >um whatever, be sad about enchanters and know that Verrant
seems to not
> > >care about enchanters but is instead improving other classes.
You will
> > >see no improvement to the enchanter class and the problems
you've
> > >mentioned with spells probably won't ever be fixed...
> > >
> > >Now, to help you understand what I meant in my previous post,
take the
> > >above statement and make all the negative things positive. I
take all
> > >the complaining about enchanters to be the top statement and my
> previous
> > >post to be the opposite, which is characterized by the
statement
> > >below...
> > >
> > >be HAPPY about enchanters and know that Verrant seems to CARE
about
> > >enchanters but is instead improving other classes FIRST. You
will see
> > >improvementS to the enchanter class and the problems you've
mentioned
> > >with spells probably WILL be fixed.
> > >
> > >Now, be positive and let Verrant know how you feel. Give them
> > >constructive feedback and let them know you are unhappy.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: WeinisFROG@... [mailto:WeinisFROG@...]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:01 PM
> > >To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > >Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> > >
> > >
> > >From: WeinisFROG@...
> > >
> > >is that supposed to make sus feel better?? that fact that they
are
> > >making us
> > >stinkier and making other classes better?
> > >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > At 04:28 PM 5/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> > Do both. I have been feedbacking every day and also senbding in
email.
> Also
> > let them know in eamil etc that you will be participating in the
strike.
> And
> > thanks for helping.
> >
> > >From: "Scott" <s.fog@...>
> > >
> > >ok I will submit to this Strike on May 22, but i dont really
think that
> its
> > >gonna get thier attentions, i think we all need to decide a
message to
> send
> > >everyday as a /bug and maybe with enough of us sending this
everyday we
> > >might get thier attention, hopefully.
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > >To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:25 AM
> > >Subject: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > >
> > >
> > >> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > >>
> > >> Due to the continual Nerfing of the Enchanter class there has
been a
> call
> > >to
> > >> have a day where no one plays thier Enchanter characters.
This
> Enchanter
> > >> boycott is tentatively scheduled for May 22cnd. If you are at
all
> > >concerned
> > >> with the contunual degradation of the Enchanters spells
especially
> the
> > >bread
> > >> and butter spells like Mez, Memory Blur, and Whirl please
tell all
> your
> > >> friends about thsi and pass it along. And don't play your
Enchanter
> on May
> > >> 22cnd. Maybe we can send a message to Verant that we are
tired of
> losing
> > >> abilties.
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:32:11 EDT
> > From: "Core Leader" <coreleader@...>
> > Subject: Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> >
> > Switching characters between servers is the stupidest idea
anyone ever
> > thought of... how are you ever going to be able to contact
friends you
> made
> > on one server? Of course YOU live near all your friends and can
call
> them up
> > saying let's all go to this server but everyone doesn't have
that
> option...
> > DO THEY? Think about it from a programming point of view, the
> transfering of
> > characters would leave many many loopholes and whereas a program
similar
> to
> > uoextreme could jump in and give you 1000000 platium... hmm...
You
> didn't
> > think things through did you? Okay, you still don't agree so
here goes
> some
> > more... A new server comes up and everyone playing it is a
newbie then
> all
> > the sudden verant let's us do this stupid server switching crap
and
> > blacksmiths go over there selling everything at 5 times the cost
they
> could
> > get on an established server. This would also let high level
parties go
> to a
> > new server and camp all the huge monsters... Emporer Crush for
example?
> > Let's look a bit deeper... How would a guild be able to keep in
contact?
> > Talking between servers would cause ungodly 24 hour 7 days a
week 365
> days a
> > year LAG!!!!! Not to mention the constant character switching
would
> cause
> > more lag therefore screwing up your playing anyways... So
basically pick
> > your server and STICK TO IT!!!! Why are people always wanting to
move?
> When
> > I first started playing I picked the server with the least
amouth of
> people
> > on it... Bertoxx, and it still remains towards the bottom of the
server
> list
> > and even if it had 2000 people playing all the time I would not
switch
> > because all my friends on that server... so thank you and sorry
if it
> > sounded like a flame because it was suppose to sound worse than
that.
> >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > At 02:47 PM 5/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
> >
> > Lets try the strike first and if that doesn't work then we do a
petition
> > marathon.
> > But I ahve to say that if that is the attitudes of the Gm's I
won't be
> > playing anymore anyway.
> >
> > >From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> > >
> > >At 04:11 PM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> > >>
> > >>Verant Guy #1: Hmm, sure is quiet in here.
> > >>Verant Guy #2: Yeah, all the enchanters are protesting by not
> playing.
> > >>Verant Guy #1: Really? We'll have to thank them later. Look!
The
> > >>feedback list is cut in half today. You sure this isnt' a
holiday?
> > >
> > >Exactly. This is the opposite of what we need to do, although
I could
> be
> > >wrong. It seems as though they are working through improving
the
> classes
> > >by way of taking the most used classes first and saving the
least used
> ones
> > >last. Think of how many /petitions they would get if the major
Wizard
> bomb
> > >spell wasnt working! Or if Spirit of the Wind suddenly worked
like
> Fear.
> > >Give them time... I think the thing we must remember is
BALANCE... they
> > >must BALANCE the classes, and I'm sure they are aware of this
and know
> what
> > >they're doing. Hell, they MADE the game... i'm sure they will
FIX it
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > to persons or structures from use of this product.
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> > Message: 8
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:43:39 -0700
> > From: Brian J Ferguson <bjf10@...>
> > Subject: Re: Spells I can't seem to find
> >
> > A rouge friend of mine found Pillage off of a monster, no idea
what from
> > though. It's a level 44 spell last time I checked it. I heard
that it is
> a
> > "buff" that makes you immine to charm, no confirmation on that.
> >
> > Giltik
> >
> > At 01:59 AM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> > >From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> > >
> > >Berserker is research only. Pillage, I have no idea. I have
been unable
> to
> > >find Illusion: Halfling (probably in Erudin) and Color Shift,
which I
> assume
> > >must be research only as well.
> > >
> > >Djar Lightbringer(Tarew Marr Server)
> > >Servant of Light, Deliverer of the Truth to Norrath
> >
> >
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> > Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:10:00 -0400
> > From: jcent@...
> > Subject: level 50 enchanter contd.
> >
> > found the info on the Everworld.net site....
> >
> > FIRST ENCHANTER TO 50 (AT LEAST I THINK SO) 7:08PM PST-
Kellindil
> > Another member of the Fires of Heaven member guild has reached
level 50.
> > Zamtil Litmaz, the gnomish enchanter, got it earlier today. He's
the
> first
> > enchanter to reach 50 that I know of. Here's a screenshot of him
in his
> > spiffy new robe: Zamtil
> >
> > ps. any enchanters on The Rathe server that would like to group
with
> me?
> > I've only ONCE grouped with a fellow enchanter and would enjoy
the
> > commisserable.
> >
> > Fistlebane, High Elf Enchanter of the 12th level. ...currently
slumming
> > around Freeport/Commonlands area.
> >
> >
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> > Message: 10
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:07:00 -0600
> > From: "mark Prescott" <prescotm@...>
> > Subject: Re: jewlcraft levels
> >
> > how do i acces this digest? I have checke the one list site and
cannot
> find
> > how to do it.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dean_witcraft@...>
> > To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:47 PM
> > Subject: [eqenchanters] jewlcraft levels
> >
> > > From: dean_witcraft@...
> > >
> > > 0600 From: "mark Prescott" <prescotm@...
> > > Subject: Re: Jewererly craft
> > > I s there anyone with concrete info on what stones to use at
what
> skill? I
> > > just dont want to waste limited resourses trying ti figure
itout ...
> > >
> > > see the archives for this list
> > > Digest 21, Message 7. It has an extensive list of levels and
the
> stones
> > to do at those levels.
> > > I tried to cut and paste it here but all the table formatting
was
> lost.
> > >
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> > Message: 11
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:33:55 EDT
> > From: CatsEye543@...
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > I agree, I think that we should all assemble on one day, in one
area.
> Then we
> > petition for a GM. While we wait, we send alot of FEEDBACK
reports,
> asking
> > Verant to finally balance the enchanter. When the GM comes,
he/she will
> see
> > that we are serious (hopefully). Tell me what you think.
> >
> >
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> > Message: 12
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:57:40 -0700
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > Ok I've read a lot of things about protesting for the
Enchanter's
> > cause...lots of ideas on how to protest but shouldn't we come up
with a
> list
> > of balance issues that we can send to Verant.
> > The main issue seems to be the resistibility of our spells. Here
is what
> I
> > think. All our spells are tested against Magic Resistance where
other
> > classes spells are tested against Fire or Cold Resistance. If
you are in
> > Lavastorm Mountain, all your fire based spell wont even harm a
green
> > creature. So the trade off is that our spells can affect
creatures of
> any
> > kind. The problem is that most of the magic-users get an
extremely good
> MR
> > due to spells. Another problem is the fact that our damage
spells dont
> do
> > any damage when resisted. Right now, our spells are almost never
> resisted by
> > greens, rarely by blues, rarely by whites ( although I could not
cast a
> > single spell on Dorn when he was white to me ), sometimes
resisted by
> > yellows, resisted 20-30% of the time by the reds that are one
level
> above
> > yellows and resisted 100% by all other reds.
> > Here is my list of suggestions:
> > 1) Damage spells should at least do some damage when resisted
following
> > similar rules as the wizard spells with a lesser ratio maybe to
keep a
> > balance with those easy-to-kill wizards,
> > 2) Our spells should not jump from a 20-30% resistance to a full
100%
> > resistance, there should be a nicer ramp so that an enchanter is
not
> > completely useless in a group of 6 people attacking one strong
red
> target.
> >
> > I dont have other suggestions because I personnaly think that
enchanter
> is a
> > very strong class. I have an enchanter level 16 now and I had a
necro
> level
> > 16 before and my enchanter is almost as good in solo ( nothing
can beat
> the
> > triple dots+feign death+let pet finish the critter combo of the
necro ),
> and
> > much much better ( much more useful would be the word ) in
groups. I am
> just
> > annoyed that sometimes I have to watch my friends kill reds for
me while
> I
> > cant even cast a spell to help except buffs.
> >
> > my 2 centimes,
> > Skara
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CatsEye543@... [mailto:CatsEye543@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:34 PM
> > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > From: CatsEye543@...
> >
> > I agree, I think that we should all assemble on one day, in one
area.
> Then
> > we
> > petition for a GM. While we wait, we send alot of FEEDBACK
reports,
> asking
> > Verant to finally balance the enchanter. When the GM comes,
he/she will
> see
> > that we are serious (hopefully). Tell me what you think.
> >
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> > Message: 13
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:05:11 EDT
> > From: WeinisFROG@...
> > Subject: jewel Craft
> >
> > can some one tell me if this is normal or did i have a lucky
streak?
> > im lvl 8 high elf on the cazic-thule sever my stats are
> > str 55
> > sta 72
> > agi 90
> > dex 74 (70 +4 from rings)
> > wis 95
> > int 105
> > cha 105
> >
> > well today was the first day i started jewlcraft so i was still
lvl21 so
> i
> > decided to live dangerously i started will like 4 plat soi didnt
figure
> i
> > would get anything acomplished so i bought one silver bar
enchanted it
> and
> > then bought a jade i tried one time and it worked and my lvl
raised to
> 22
> > (YIPPEE!!) i sold the mana ring for 5 plat so i now have like
6 plat
> now
> > so i start at malachite and i try it once and lvl up and become
trivial
> and i
> > try lapiz lusal (or what ever its called) and i made two things
and both
> > times i lvled up then i moved on and kept going by the time i
finished,
> > about an hour later i had gone from lvl21 - 26 and i am now on
onyx and
> i
> > only failed 3 times twice on the agate one and once on the
onyx then
> i ran
> > out of money? is that good for a start?? the only thing
special i
> did
> > was i was meditating will i crafted
> >
> >
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> > Message: 14
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:11:23 +0900
> > From: XIII <dlepriol@...>
> > Subject: Re: Is Jewelry worthless or what?
> >
> > Yes,
> >
> > EG : Dervish ring in NRO are sold around 2-5gp and they increase
DX by
> 2.
> > Far less than the accrued cost one enchanter has to pay to make
one
> himself.
> >
> > Unless a major overhaul of jerwelry is underway, I think this
craft is a
> > sure money drain. On the other hand smithing appears to be quite
> lucratvie
> > in the end. I don't know what kind of money they have to pour in
in the
> > first place. Still that won't prevent me from trying to master
the
> craft.
> > The doctor says this has to do with the intake of caffein.
> >
> > my 2 enchanted silvers bars
> > Ibnabeth/Karana
> >
> > At 12:24 19/05/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> > >From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > >
> > >I found this web site that displays all the jewelry we can make
up to
> > >gold+ruby...Well it really looked worthless to me at first
glance.
> After
> > >thinking a bit, I thought: well, if that's all we can get in
the game,
> then
> > >players will buy it. Then I started a little research around
and I
> found out
> > >that you can find much more powerful magic items that we can
ever make
> on
> > >monsters...so what's the point? Who's gonna pay 150 plats to
buy a +3
> INT
> > >ring if he can get +6 INT Helmet by camping at a certain place.
> > >Thought of the day,
> > >Skara
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 15
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:16:28 -0400
> > From: "Manuel Revilla" <manuel.revilla@...>
> > Subject: Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> >
> > That's ok, you are allowed to express your stupidity as you deem
best
> :o)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Core Leader [mailto:coreleader@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 6:32 PM
> > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> >
> > From: "Core Leader" <coreleader@...>
> >
> > Switching characters between servers is the stupidest idea
anyone ever
> > thought of... how are you ever going to be able to contact
friends you
> made
> > on one server? Of course YOU live near all your friends and can
call
> them up
> > saying let's all go to this server but everyone doesn't have
that
> option...
> > DO THEY? Think about it from a programming point of view, the
> transfering of
> > characters would leave many many loopholes and whereas a program
similar
> to
> > uoextreme could jump in and give you 1000000 platium... hmm...
You
> didn't
> > think things through did you? Okay, you still don't agree so
here goes
> some
> > more... A new server comes up and everyone playing it is a
newbie then
> all
> > the sudden verant let's us do this stupid server switching crap
and
> > blacksmiths go over there selling everything at 5 times the cost
they
> could
> > get on an established server. This would also let high level
parties go
> to a
> > new server and camp all the huge monsters... Emporer Crush for
example?
> > Let's look a bit deeper... How would a guild be able to keep in
contact?
> > Talking between servers would cause ungodly 24 hour 7 days a
week 365
> days a
> > year LAG!!!!! Not to mention the constant character switching
would
> cause
> > more lag therefore screwing up your playing anyways... So
basically pick
> > your server and STICK TO IT!!!! Why are people always wanting to
move?
> When
> > I first started playing I picked the server with the least
amouth of
> people
> > on it... Bertoxx, and it still remains towards the bottom of the
server
> list
> > and even if it had 2000 people playing all the time I would not
switch
> > because all my friends on that server... so thank you and sorry
if it
> > sounded like a flame because it was suppose to sound worse than
that.
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> > Message: 16
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:51:52 -0400
> > From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > This is the most well thought out post of this whole
discussion.... What
> we
> > need to do is do exactly this, get an intelligent, thought out
list of
> > 'complaints', send it to Verant, and some of the bigger EQ
sites...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: DeGirolami, Franck <degirolami@...>
> > To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 7:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > >
> > > Ok I've read a lot of things about protesting for the
Enchanter's
> > > cause...lots of ideas on how to protest but shouldn't we come
up with
> a
> > list
> > > of balance issues that we can send to Verant.
> > > The main issue seems to be the resistibility of our spells.
Here is
> what I
> > > think. All our spells are tested against Magic Resistance
where other
> > > classes spells are tested against Fire or Cold Resistance. If
you are
> in
> > > Lavastorm Mountain, all your fire based spell wont even harm a
green
> > > creature. So the trade off is that our spells can affect
creatures of
> any
> > > kind. The problem is that most of the magic-users get an
extremely
> good MR
> > > due to spells. Another problem is the fact that our damage
spells dont
> do
> > > any damage when resisted. Right now, our spells are almost
never
> resisted
> > by
> > > greens, rarely by blues, rarely by whites ( although I could
not cast
> a
> > > single spell on Dorn when he was white to me ), sometimes
resisted by
> > > yellows, resisted 20-30% of the time by the reds that are one
level
> above
> > > yellows and resisted 100% by all other reds.
> > > Here is my list of suggestions:
> > > 1) Damage spells should at least do some damage when resisted
> following
> > > similar rules as the wizard spells with a lesser ratio maybe
to keep a
> > > balance with those easy-to-kill wizards,
> > > 2) Our spells should not jump from a 20-30% resistance to a
full 100%
> > > resistance, there should be a nicer ramp so that an enchanter
is not
> > > completely useless in a group of 6 people attacking one strong
red
> target.
> > >
> > > I dont have other suggestions because I personnaly think that
> enchanter is
> > a
> > > very strong class. I have an enchanter level 16 now and I had
a necro
> > level
> > > 16 before and my enchanter is almost as good in solo ( nothing
can
> beat
> > the
> > > triple dots+feign death+let pet finish the critter combo of
the necro
> ),
> > and
> > > much much better ( much more useful would be the word ) in
groups. I
> am
> > just
> > > annoyed that sometimes I have to watch my friends kill reds
for me
> while I
> > > cant even cast a spell to help except buffs.
> > >
> > > my 2 centimes,
> > > Skara
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: CatsEye543@... [mailto:CatsEye543@...]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:34 PM
> > > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: CatsEye543@...
> > >
> > > I agree, I think that we should all assemble on one day, in
one area.
> Then
> > > we
> > > petition for a GM. While we wait, we send alot of FEEDBACK
reports,
> asking
> > > Verant to finally balance the enchanter. When the GM comes,
he/she
> will
> > see
> > > that we are serious (hopefully). Tell me what you think.
> > >
> > >
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> > Message: 17
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:56:51 -0400
> > From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > Whoops.. forgot...
> >
> > If you want to send me comments or ideas that we need to convey
to
> Verant,
> > mail me at greedox@... and I'll try and make as complete a
list as
> > possible, post the results here and decide what, if anything
needs to be
> > changed...
> >
> > Oonahn
> > Xegony
> >
> >
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> > Message: 18
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:58:16 -0700
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> > Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > Well, you've got my list:
> > 1) Damage spells should at least do some damage when resisted
following
> > similar rules as the wizard spells with a lesser ratio to keep a
balance
> > with the wizards that are a nuke-only class,
> > 2) Our spells should not jump from a 20-30% resistance to a full
100%
> > resistance ( from reds with one level above yellow to reds with
two
> levels
> > above yellow ), there should be a nicer ramp so that an
enchanter is not
> > completely useless in a group of 6 people attacking one strong
red
> target.
> > Skara
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve H. [mailto:greedox@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:57 PM
> > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> > From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> >
> > Whoops.. forgot...
> >
> > If you want to send me comments or ideas that we need to convey
to
> Verant,
> > mail me at greedox@... and I'll try and make as complete a
list as
> > possible, post the results here and decide what, if anything
needs to be
> > changed...
> >
> > Oonahn
> > Xegony
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> > Message: 19
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:39:03 -0400
> > From: "Mike Cummins" <pakrat77@...>
> > Subject: Lost email
> >
> > I trimmed this down, taking out names and address. but all the
info is
> still
> > here.
> >
> > Answers:
> >
> > 1> Is it the skull of Shen'Tra or Jhen'Tra? Shen'Tra is a high
level
> monk
> > quest, Jhen'Tra is still very much a heatedly debated topic and
no one
> > really knows what it is for.
> >
> > 2> Words are research items for a ANOTHER magi class. We use
pages for
> > research. I believe that Wizards use Runes, and I'm not sure
who uses
> > Words. Trade with someone that has pages or sell it outright
for 3 to
> 5pp
> > to a PC.
> >
> > 3> That rumor is for the Skull of Jhen'Tra, but is totally
unconfirmed
> as I
> > have yet to hear of anyone that has actually accomplished this,
even
> though
> > everyone claims it to be true.
> > Hey all fellow enchanters,
> > I joind a very powerfull group and went into PAW last
night,,,,
> > there for a long time, had a great spawn killing pattern,
> > always killing Named shamans, and commanders. GREAT Exp!
> > anyway, i found a few interesting things, and i was
wondering if
> anyone
> > knew anything about them? perhaps they are quest items? or
something
> else.
> >
> > 1) Skull of (damn, i forget his name, i'll post it when i
get
> > it...sorry) but i got a skull, and it wont sell, i was not going
to sell
> it,
> > thats just how i test it to see if its anything more.
> >
> > 2) Words of Tyranny:: its a parchement? i think its part of
a
> > researchable spell, but i cannot read it, since i cannot
research yet.
> >
> > 3) thisis not a found item, but something a Mage told me
that was
> in
> > our party. he said he heard rumors of being able to mount a
certain
> skull on
> > the Totem staff??? can anyone confirm this??
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 20
> > Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:59:09 -0600
> > From: "Briles" <briles@...>
> > Subject: System message.
> >
> > Aradune send a couple system messages last night. He talked
about some
> stuff that he had to some areas. I can't remeber what the names
were of
> the places but I have no idea where they are. Could someone infor
me on
> this? The names where like (someone)'s Liar and (someone)'s eye.
He also
> said that they were for mid to high level players. Huh glad you
are
> specific on that Brad. Woud that be level 25-50?
> >
> >
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> > Message: 21
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:34:13 -0500
> > From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> > Subject: Re: System message.
> >
> > Well, there is the Lair of the Splitpaw Gnolls, commonly known
as Paw.
> It
> > is in S. Karana and is for levels 5 to 18 or so. Solusek's Eye
is a
> NASTY
> > place (probably one of the hardest places in Norrath now) since
it has
> lava
> > traps AND when I walked in the door at level 20, I saw a PET of
a
> Greater
> > Kobold Shaman that con'd Red to me, so I assumed the master was
DEEP red
> and
> > immediately left.
> >
> > Djar Lightbringer(Tarew Marr Server)
> > Servant of Light, Deliverer of the Truth to Norrath
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Briles [mailto:briles@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:59 AM
> > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > Subject: [eqenchanters] System message.
> >
> > Aradune send a couple system messages last night. He talked
about
> some
> > stuff that he had to some areas. I can't remeber what the names
were of
> the
> > places but I have no idea where they are. Could someone infor me
on
> this?
> > The names where like (someone)'s Liar and (someone)'s eye. He
also said
> that
> > they were for mid to high level players. Huh glad you are
specific on
> that
> > Brad. Woud that be level 25-50?
> >
> >
>
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> > Message: 22
> > Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 03:16:45 -0700
> > From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> > Subject: Re: System message.
> >
> > I heard this broadcast as well... what was most interesting is
where he
> > mentioned that a group should find a 'underpowered' enchanter
(sounded
> > sarcastic the way he said it) and get them to use magic resist
buffs for
> > said zones. Could be that they slipped us in a gem for a change
> >
> > At 11:59 PM 5/19/99 -0600, you wrote:
> > > Aradune send a couple system messages last night. He talked
about
> some
> > >stuff that he had to some areas. I can't remeber what the names
were
> of
> > >the places but I have no idea where they are. Could someone
infor me on
> > >this? The names where like (someone)'s Liar and (someone)'s
eye. He
> also
> > >said that they were for mid to high level players. Huh glad
you are
> > >specific on that Brad. Woud that be level 25-50?
> >
> >
>
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