Well i finally got both halfs of page 30 to research my berserker spell. Researched it and walla i succeeded. Only to find out that it does not do what the book and all the web pages say wich is add STR and AGI. Instead it gives me 20 STR and takes away 10 Agility ?? What the hells up with that a buff that takes away something. I've made several different warrior classes experimenting with the different
stats and #1 althought STR does help i find it far less importent than dex or agility, I'de never trade 20 str for -10 agility. #2 its not even a trade off of 20 STR for -10 AGI ....Instead i can just use lvl 1 STR spell add 10 STR to whoever now the only difference between that and this new big bad Berserker STR spell is 10 STR and loosing 10 agility !!! What kinda damn spell is that...
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> 1. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> 2. Half-pages of Tasarin's Grimoire
> From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> 3. Re: On alliance again
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> 4. Re: On alliance again
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> 5. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> 6. Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> From: "Core Leader" <coreleader@...>
> 7. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> 8. Re: Spells I can't seem to find
> From: Brian J Ferguson <bjf10@...>
> 9. level 50 enchanter contd.
> From: jcent@...
> 10. Re: jewlcraft levels
> From: "mark Prescott" <prescotm@...>
> 11. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: CatsEye543@...
> 12. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> 13. jewel Craft
> From: WeinisFROG@...
> 14. Re: Is Jewelry worthless or what?
> From: XIII <dlepriol@...>
> 15. Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
> From: "Manuel Revilla" <manuel.revilla@...>
> 16. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> 17. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> 18. Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> 19. Lost email
> From: "Mike Cummins" <pakrat77@...>
> 20. System message.
> From: "Briles" <briles@...>
> 21. Re: System message.
> From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> 22. Re: System message.
> From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:47:43 -0700
> From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> At 04:11 PM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> >
> >Verant Guy #1: Hmm, sure is quiet in here.
> >Verant Guy #2: Yeah, all the enchanters are protesting by not playing.
> >Verant Guy #1: Really? We'll have to thank them later. Look! The
> >feedback list is cut in half today. You sure this isnt' a holiday?
>
> Exactly. This is the opposite of what we need to do, although I could be
> wrong. It seems as though they are working through improving the classes
> by way of taking the most used classes first and saving the least used ones
> last. Think of how many /petitions they would get if the major Wizard bomb
> spell wasnt working! Or if Spirit of the Wind suddenly worked like Fear.
> Give them time... I think the thing we must remember is BALANCE... they
> must BALANCE the classes, and I'm sure they are aware of this and know what
> they're doing. Hell, they MADE the game... i'm sure they will FIX it
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:42:37 -0700
> From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> Subject: Half-pages of Tasarin's Grimoire
>
> I have a bunch that dont match on the Innoruuk Server. Contact me in the
> game if interested for trades.
> Skara the Enchantress
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:23:07 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> Subject: Re: On alliance again
>
> At 02:46 PM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
> >
>
> Yes but mesmerize could be resisted. Up until yesterdays patch Memory blur
> was an Unresistable spell. NOTHING, not even lordd mistmoore himself would
> resist it. If you ahd tried to use mesmerize in place of memory blur on a
> sand giant it would ahve resisted it (being red to you) and stomped youa s
> well as the rest.
>
> >Mesmerize does the same for me. I use it all the time on wisps in Erud's
> >Crossing if I get doubleteamed. I mes one and kill the other. I have never
> >had the one that I mesmerized attack me again.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Hapke, Matthew [SMTP:mahapke@...]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:53 PM
> >> To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> >> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> >>
> >> From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> >>
> >> I have had whirl, just this morning, last for less then 2 seconds, 7
> >> times in a row. It never lasts full duration at all, and I am fighting
> >> blues, totally. Risky or dangerous, doesn't seem to matter.
> >>
> >> Memory Blur is what I would deem a get out of Jail free card. It is a
> >> second chance basically. Against Non Agressive beasts, it is a do-over.
> >> It stops them in their tracks, and makes em forget. It doesn't freeze
> >> them like mez does. But, my big use for it was saving a beach full of
> >> Croc surfers from the wet sandal fate. Up comes the big hill giant, out
> >> goes the Memory Blur, bingo! Instantly make 20 new friends =) I don't
> >> think I will try this much now, considering the giant will resist me.
> >> That was the only situation I found it useful for.
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Farr, Robert [SMTP:robert.farr@...]
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:37 PM
> >> > To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> >> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> >> >
> >> > From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
> >> >
> >> > I haven't had any problems with whirl. In what way is it supposed to
> >> > be
> >> > broken?
> >> >
> >> > I haven't had any problem with memory blur because I am still using
> >> > mesmerize. I didn't notice that memory blur offered anything else
> >> > besides an
> >> > increased mana use...
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Hapke, Matthew [SMTP:mahapke@...]
> >> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:36 PM
> >> > > To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> >> > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> >> > >
> >> > > From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> >> > >
> >> > > IMproved the effectiveness of what spells?!?
> >> > > I have seen these improvements for us lately:
> >> > >
> >> > > 1. Memory Blur can now be resisted.
> >> > > 2. Whirl Can now be broken
> >> > > 3. Whirl now has a horridly random amount of time.
> >> > >
> >> > > So, what exactly is better here?
> >> > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: Shawn Alley [SMTP:ShawnA@...]
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 2:23 PM
> >> > > > To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: Shawn Alley <ShawnA@...>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Variant just improved the effectiveness of some spells. They may
> >> > work
> >> > > > on this spell (and others) if we continue to let them know the
> >> > spell
> >> > > > isn't doing what we expected. So keep your hopes up, this line of
> >> > > > spells may be more powerful at some point!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > From: HiFi Review [mailto:hifireview@...]
> >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 12:18 PM
> >> > > > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> >> > > > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > From: HiFi Review <hifireview@...>
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Then we can save a few coppers on our 100PP + platinum bars. :)
> >> > > >
> >> > > > --- Rob Berryhill <racefan@...> wrote:
> >> > > > > From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > It's pretty much worthless. If you use it for an
> >> > > > > item that costs 100+pp you
> >> > > > > *might* save a copper or two.
> >> > > > >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> Subject: Re: On alliance again
>
> At 01:15 PM 5/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
> Screw that. The other classes are nowhere near as broke as we are yet they
> don't get gimped. What about thsoe 6 level 16 necros who take down a sand
> gaint? Could 6 levle 16's of any other class do that? I think not. Why?
> Because they have an Unresistable spell. And its a damage spell too. So why
> is Verant screwing with removing our non damaging unresistable spell when
> Necros get one that allows them to do stuff no other class can?
> Favoritsm perhaps?
>
> >From: Shawn Alley <ShawnA@...>
> >
> >um whatever, be sad about enchanters and know that Verrant seems to not
> >care about enchanters but is instead improving other classes. You will
> >see no improvement to the enchanter class and the problems you've
> >mentioned with spells probably won't ever be fixed...
> >
> >Now, to help you understand what I meant in my previous post, take the
> >above statement and make all the negative things positive. I take all
> >the complaining about enchanters to be the top statement and my previous
> >post to be the opposite, which is characterized by the statement
> >below...
> >
> >be HAPPY about enchanters and know that Verrant seems to CARE about
> >enchanters but is instead improving other classes FIRST. You will see
> >improvementS to the enchanter class and the problems you've mentioned
> >with spells probably WILL be fixed.
> >
> >Now, be positive and let Verrant know how you feel. Give them
> >constructive feedback and let them know you are unhappy.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: WeinisFROG@... [mailto:WeinisFROG@...]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:01 PM
> >To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> >Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] On alliance again
> >
> >
> >From: WeinisFROG@...
> >
> >is that supposed to make sus feel better?? that fact that they are
> >making us
> >stinkier and making other classes better?
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:29:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> At 04:28 PM 5/19/99 -0400, you wrote:
>
> Do both. I have been feedbacking every day and also senbding in email. Also
> let them know in eamil etc that you will be participating in the strike. And
> thanks for helping.
>
> >From: "Scott" <s.fog@...>
> >
> >ok I will submit to this Strike on May 22, but i dont really think that its
> >gonna get thier attentions, i think we all need to decide a message to send
> >everyday as a /bug and maybe with enough of us sending this everyday we
> >might get thier attention, hopefully.
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> >To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:25 AM
> >Subject: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> >
> >> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> >>
> >> Due to the continual Nerfing of the Enchanter class there has been a call
> >to
> >> have a day where no one plays thier Enchanter characters. This Enchanter
> >> boycott is tentatively scheduled for May 22cnd. If you are at all
> >concerned
> >> with the contunual degradation of the Enchanters spells especially the
> >bread
> >> and butter spells like Mez, Memory Blur, and Whirl please tell all your
> >> friends about thsi and pass it along. And don't play your Enchanter on May
> >> 22cnd. Maybe we can send a message to Verant that we are tired of losing
> >> abilties.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:32:11 EDT
> From: "Core Leader" <coreleader@...>
> Subject: Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
>
> Switching characters between servers is the stupidest idea anyone ever
> thought of... how are you ever going to be able to contact friends you made
> on one server? Of course YOU live near all your friends and can call them up
> saying let's all go to this server but everyone doesn't have that option...
> DO THEY? Think about it from a programming point of view, the transfering of
> characters would leave many many loopholes and whereas a program similar to
> uoextreme could jump in and give you 1000000 platium... hmm... You didn't
> think things through did you? Okay, you still don't agree so here goes some
> more... A new server comes up and everyone playing it is a newbie then all
> the sudden verant let's us do this stupid server switching crap and
> blacksmiths go over there selling everything at 5 times the cost they could
> get on an established server. This would also let high level parties go to a
> new server and camp all the huge monsters... Emporer Crush for example?
> Let's look a bit deeper... How would a guild be able to keep in contact?
> Talking between servers would cause ungodly 24 hour 7 days a week 365 days a
> year LAG!!!!! Not to mention the constant character switching would cause
> more lag therefore screwing up your playing anyways... So basically pick
> your server and STICK TO IT!!!! Why are people always wanting to move? When
> I first started playing I picked the server with the least amouth of people
> on it... Bertoxx, and it still remains towards the bottom of the server list
> and even if it had 2000 people playing all the time I would not switch
> because all my friends on that server... so thank you and sorry if it
> sounded like a flame because it was suppose to sound worse than that.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:33:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Silverlock <croesus@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> At 02:47 PM 5/19/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
> Lets try the strike first and if that doesn't work then we do a petition
> marathon.
> But I ahve to say that if that is the attitudes of the Gm's I won't be
> playing anymore anyway.
>
> >From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> >
> >At 04:11 PM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >>From: "Hapke, Matthew" <mahapke@...>
> >>
> >>Verant Guy #1: Hmm, sure is quiet in here.
> >>Verant Guy #2: Yeah, all the enchanters are protesting by not playing.
> >>Verant Guy #1: Really? We'll have to thank them later. Look! The
> >>feedback list is cut in half today. You sure this isnt' a holiday?
> >
> >Exactly. This is the opposite of what we need to do, although I could be
> >wrong. It seems as though they are working through improving the classes
> >by way of taking the most used classes first and saving the least used ones
> >last. Think of how many /petitions they would get if the major Wizard bomb
> >spell wasnt working! Or if Spirit of the Wind suddenly worked like Fear.
> >Give them time... I think the thing we must remember is BALANCE... they
> >must BALANCE the classes, and I'm sure they are aware of this and know what
> >they're doing. Hell, they MADE the game... i'm sure they will FIX it
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 15:43:39 -0700
> From: Brian J Ferguson <bjf10@...>
> Subject: Re: Spells I can't seem to find
>
> A rouge friend of mine found Pillage off of a monster, no idea what from
> though. It's a level 44 spell last time I checked it. I heard that it is a
> "buff" that makes you immine to charm, no confirmation on that.
>
> Giltik
>
> At 01:59 AM 5/19/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> >
> >Berserker is research only. Pillage, I have no idea. I have been unable to
> >find Illusion: Halfling (probably in Erudin) and Color Shift, which I assume
> >must be research only as well.
> >
> >Djar Lightbringer(Tarew Marr Server)
> >Servant of Light, Deliverer of the Truth to Norrath
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:10:00 -0400
> From: jcent@...
> Subject: level 50 enchanter contd.
>
> found the info on the Everworld.net site....
>
> FIRST ENCHANTER TO 50 (AT LEAST I THINK SO) 7:08PM PST- Kellindil
> Another member of the Fires of Heaven member guild has reached level 50.
> Zamtil Litmaz, the gnomish enchanter, got it earlier today. He's the first
> enchanter to reach 50 that I know of. Here's a screenshot of him in his
> spiffy new robe: Zamtil
>
> ps. any enchanters on The Rathe server that would like to group with me?
> I've only ONCE grouped with a fellow enchanter and would enjoy the
> commisserable.
>
> Fistlebane, High Elf Enchanter of the 12th level. ...currently slumming
> around Freeport/Commonlands area.
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:07:00 -0600
> From: "mark Prescott" <prescotm@...>
> Subject: Re: jewlcraft levels
>
> how do i acces this digest? I have checke the one list site and cannot find
> how to do it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dean_witcraft@...>
> To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 1:47 PM
> Subject: [eqenchanters] jewlcraft levels
>
> > From: dean_witcraft@...
> >
> > 0600 From: "mark Prescott" <prescotm@...
> > Subject: Re: Jewererly craft
> > I s there anyone with concrete info on what stones to use at what skill? I
> > just dont want to waste limited resourses trying ti figure itout ...
> >
> > see the archives for this list
> > Digest 21, Message 7. It has an extensive list of levels and the stones
> to do at those levels.
> > I tried to cut and paste it here but all the table formatting was lost.
> >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:33:55 EDT
> From: CatsEye543@...
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> I agree, I think that we should all assemble on one day, in one area. Then we
> petition for a GM. While we wait, we send alot of FEEDBACK reports, asking
> Verant to finally balance the enchanter. When the GM comes, he/she will see
> that we are serious (hopefully). Tell me what you think.
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:57:40 -0700
> From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> Ok I've read a lot of things about protesting for the Enchanter's
> cause...lots of ideas on how to protest but shouldn't we come up with a list
> of balance issues that we can send to Verant.
> The main issue seems to be the resistibility of our spells. Here is what I
> think. All our spells are tested against Magic Resistance where other
> classes spells are tested against Fire or Cold Resistance. If you are in
> Lavastorm Mountain, all your fire based spell wont even harm a green
> creature. So the trade off is that our spells can affect creatures of any
> kind. The problem is that most of the magic-users get an extremely good MR
> due to spells. Another problem is the fact that our damage spells dont do
> any damage when resisted. Right now, our spells are almost never resisted by
> greens, rarely by blues, rarely by whites ( although I could not cast a
> single spell on Dorn when he was white to me ), sometimes resisted by
> yellows, resisted 20-30% of the time by the reds that are one level above
> yellows and resisted 100% by all other reds.
> Here is my list of suggestions:
> 1) Damage spells should at least do some damage when resisted following
> similar rules as the wizard spells with a lesser ratio maybe to keep a
> balance with those easy-to-kill wizards,
> 2) Our spells should not jump from a 20-30% resistance to a full 100%
> resistance, there should be a nicer ramp so that an enchanter is not
> completely useless in a group of 6 people attacking one strong red target.
>
> I dont have other suggestions because I personnaly think that enchanter is a
> very strong class. I have an enchanter level 16 now and I had a necro level
> 16 before and my enchanter is almost as good in solo ( nothing can beat the
> triple dots+feign death+let pet finish the critter combo of the necro ), and
> much much better ( much more useful would be the word ) in groups. I am just
> annoyed that sometimes I have to watch my friends kill reds for me while I
> cant even cast a spell to help except buffs.
>
> my 2 centimes,
> Skara
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CatsEye543@... [mailto:CatsEye543@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:34 PM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> From: CatsEye543@...
>
> I agree, I think that we should all assemble on one day, in one area. Then
> we
> petition for a GM. While we wait, we send alot of FEEDBACK reports, asking
> Verant to finally balance the enchanter. When the GM comes, he/she will see
> that we are serious (hopefully). Tell me what you think.
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:05:11 EDT
> From: WeinisFROG@...
> Subject: jewel Craft
>
> can some one tell me if this is normal or did i have a lucky streak?
> im lvl 8 high elf on the cazic-thule sever my stats are
> str 55
> sta 72
> agi 90
> dex 74 (70 +4 from rings)
> wis 95
> int 105
> cha 105
>
> well today was the first day i started jewlcraft so i was still lvl21 so i
> decided to live dangerously i started will like 4 plat soi didnt figure i
> would get anything acomplished so i bought one silver bar enchanted it and
> then bought a jade i tried one time and it worked and my lvl raised to 22
> (YIPPEE!!) i sold the mana ring for 5 plat so i now have like 6 plat now
> so i start at malachite and i try it once and lvl up and become trivial and i
> try lapiz lusal (or what ever its called) and i made two things and both
> times i lvled up then i moved on and kept going by the time i finished,
> about an hour later i had gone from lvl21 - 26 and i am now on onyx and i
> only failed 3 times twice on the agate one and once on the onyx then i ran
> out of money? is that good for a start?? the only thing special i did
> was i was meditating will i crafted
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:11:23 +0900
> From: XIII <dlepriol@...>
> Subject: Re: Is Jewelry worthless or what?
>
> Yes,
>
> EG : Dervish ring in NRO are sold around 2-5gp and they increase DX by 2.
> Far less than the accrued cost one enchanter has to pay to make one himself.
>
> Unless a major overhaul of jerwelry is underway, I think this craft is a
> sure money drain. On the other hand smithing appears to be quite lucratvie
> in the end. I don't know what kind of money they have to pour in in the
> first place. Still that won't prevent me from trying to master the craft.
> The doctor says this has to do with the intake of caffein.
>
> my 2 enchanted silvers bars
> Ibnabeth/Karana
>
> At 12:24 19/05/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> >
> >I found this web site that displays all the jewelry we can make up to
> >gold+ruby...Well it really looked worthless to me at first glance. After
> >thinking a bit, I thought: well, if that's all we can get in the game, then
> >players will buy it. Then I started a little research around and I found out
> >that you can find much more powerful magic items that we can ever make on
> >monsters...so what's the point? Who's gonna pay 150 plats to buy a +3 INT
> >ring if he can get +6 INT Helmet by camping at a certain place.
> >Thought of the day,
> >Skara
> >
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:16:28 -0400
> From: "Manuel Revilla" <manuel.revilla@...>
> Subject: Re: My 2 cents on the status of EQ
>
> That's ok, you are allowed to express your stupidity as you deem best :o)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Core Leader [mailto:coreleader@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 6:32 PM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] My 2 cents on the status of EQ
>
> From: "Core Leader" <coreleader@...>
>
> Switching characters between servers is the stupidest idea anyone ever
> thought of... how are you ever going to be able to contact friends you made
> on one server? Of course YOU live near all your friends and can call them up
> saying let's all go to this server but everyone doesn't have that option...
> DO THEY? Think about it from a programming point of view, the transfering of
> characters would leave many many loopholes and whereas a program similar to
> uoextreme could jump in and give you 1000000 platium... hmm... You didn't
> think things through did you? Okay, you still don't agree so here goes some
> more... A new server comes up and everyone playing it is a newbie then all
> the sudden verant let's us do this stupid server switching crap and
> blacksmiths go over there selling everything at 5 times the cost they could
> get on an established server. This would also let high level parties go to a
> new server and camp all the huge monsters... Emporer Crush for example?
> Let's look a bit deeper... How would a guild be able to keep in contact?
> Talking between servers would cause ungodly 24 hour 7 days a week 365 days a
> year LAG!!!!! Not to mention the constant character switching would cause
> more lag therefore screwing up your playing anyways... So basically pick
> your server and STICK TO IT!!!! Why are people always wanting to move? When
> I first started playing I picked the server with the least amouth of people
> on it... Bertoxx, and it still remains towards the bottom of the server list
> and even if it had 2000 people playing all the time I would not switch
> because all my friends on that server... so thank you and sorry if it
> sounded like a flame because it was suppose to sound worse than that.
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:51:52 -0400
> From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> This is the most well thought out post of this whole discussion.... What we
> need to do is do exactly this, get an intelligent, thought out list of
> 'complaints', send it to Verant, and some of the bigger EQ sites...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: DeGirolami, Franck <degirolami@...>
> To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 7:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> > From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> >
> > Ok I've read a lot of things about protesting for the Enchanter's
> > cause...lots of ideas on how to protest but shouldn't we come up with a
> list
> > of balance issues that we can send to Verant.
> > The main issue seems to be the resistibility of our spells. Here is what I
> > think. All our spells are tested against Magic Resistance where other
> > classes spells are tested against Fire or Cold Resistance. If you are in
> > Lavastorm Mountain, all your fire based spell wont even harm a green
> > creature. So the trade off is that our spells can affect creatures of any
> > kind. The problem is that most of the magic-users get an extremely good MR
> > due to spells. Another problem is the fact that our damage spells dont do
> > any damage when resisted. Right now, our spells are almost never resisted
> by
> > greens, rarely by blues, rarely by whites ( although I could not cast a
> > single spell on Dorn when he was white to me ), sometimes resisted by
> > yellows, resisted 20-30% of the time by the reds that are one level above
> > yellows and resisted 100% by all other reds.
> > Here is my list of suggestions:
> > 1) Damage spells should at least do some damage when resisted following
> > similar rules as the wizard spells with a lesser ratio maybe to keep a
> > balance with those easy-to-kill wizards,
> > 2) Our spells should not jump from a 20-30% resistance to a full 100%
> > resistance, there should be a nicer ramp so that an enchanter is not
> > completely useless in a group of 6 people attacking one strong red target.
> >
> > I dont have other suggestions because I personnaly think that enchanter is
> a
> > very strong class. I have an enchanter level 16 now and I had a necro
> level
> > 16 before and my enchanter is almost as good in solo ( nothing can beat
> the
> > triple dots+feign death+let pet finish the critter combo of the necro ),
> and
> > much much better ( much more useful would be the word ) in groups. I am
> just
> > annoyed that sometimes I have to watch my friends kill reds for me while I
> > cant even cast a spell to help except buffs.
> >
> > my 2 centimes,
> > Skara
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: CatsEye543@... [mailto:CatsEye543@...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 4:34 PM
> > To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
> >
> >
> > From: CatsEye543@...
> >
> > I agree, I think that we should all assemble on one day, in one area. Then
> > we
> > petition for a GM. While we wait, we send alot of FEEDBACK reports, asking
> > Verant to finally balance the enchanter. When the GM comes, he/she will
> see
> > that we are serious (hopefully). Tell me what you think.
> >
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 20:56:51 -0400
> From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> Whoops.. forgot...
>
> If you want to send me comments or ideas that we need to convey to Verant,
> mail me at greedox@... and I'll try and make as complete a list as
> possible, post the results here and decide what, if anything needs to be
> changed...
>
> Oonahn
> Xegony
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:58:16 -0700
> From: "DeGirolami, Franck" <degirolami@...>
> Subject: Re: Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> Well, you've got my list:
> 1) Damage spells should at least do some damage when resisted following
> similar rules as the wizard spells with a lesser ratio to keep a balance
> with the wizards that are a nuke-only class,
> 2) Our spells should not jump from a 20-30% resistance to a full 100%
> resistance ( from reds with one level above yellow to reds with two levels
> above yellow ), there should be a nicer ramp so that an enchanter is not
> completely useless in a group of 6 people attacking one strong red target.
> Skara
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve H. [mailto:greedox@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 5:57 PM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [eqenchanters] Enchanter Nerf Protest.
>
> From: " Steve H." <greedox@...>
>
> Whoops.. forgot...
>
> If you want to send me comments or ideas that we need to convey to Verant,
> mail me at greedox@... and I'll try and make as complete a list as
> possible, post the results here and decide what, if anything needs to be
> changed...
>
> Oonahn
> Xegony
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 22:39:03 -0400
> From: "Mike Cummins" <pakrat77@...>
> Subject: Lost email
>
> I trimmed this down, taking out names and address. but all the info is still
> here.
>
> Answers:
>
> 1> Is it the skull of Shen'Tra or Jhen'Tra? Shen'Tra is a high level monk
> quest, Jhen'Tra is still very much a heatedly debated topic and no one
> really knows what it is for.
>
> 2> Words are research items for a ANOTHER magi class. We use pages for
> research. I believe that Wizards use Runes, and I'm not sure who uses
> Words. Trade with someone that has pages or sell it outright for 3 to 5pp
> to a PC.
>
> 3> That rumor is for the Skull of Jhen'Tra, but is totally unconfirmed as I
> have yet to hear of anyone that has actually accomplished this, even though
> everyone claims it to be true.
> Hey all fellow enchanters,
> I joind a very powerfull group and went into PAW last night,,,,
> there for a long time, had a great spawn killing pattern,
> always killing Named shamans, and commanders. GREAT Exp!
> anyway, i found a few interesting things, and i was wondering if anyone
> knew anything about them? perhaps they are quest items? or something else.
>
> 1) Skull of (damn, i forget his name, i'll post it when i get
> it...sorry) but i got a skull, and it wont sell, i was not going to sell it,
> thats just how i test it to see if its anything more.
>
> 2) Words of Tyranny:: its a parchement? i think its part of a
> researchable spell, but i cannot read it, since i cannot research yet.
>
> 3) thisis not a found item, but something a Mage told me that was in
> our party. he said he heard rumors of being able to mount a certain skull on
> the Totem staff??? can anyone confirm this??
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:59:09 -0600
> From: "Briles" <briles@...>
> Subject: System message.
>
> Aradune send a couple system messages last night. He talked about some stuff that he had to some areas. I can't remeber what the names were of the places but I have no idea where they are. Could someone infor me on this? The names where like (someone)'s Liar and (someone)'s eye. He also said that they were for mid to high level players. Huh glad you are specific on that Brad. Woud that be level 25-50?
>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 02:34:13 -0500
> From: "Rob Berryhill" <racefan@...>
> Subject: Re: System message.
>
> Well, there is the Lair of the Splitpaw Gnolls, commonly known as Paw. It
> is in S. Karana and is for levels 5 to 18 or so. Solusek's Eye is a NASTY
> place (probably one of the hardest places in Norrath now) since it has lava
> traps AND when I walked in the door at level 20, I saw a PET of a Greater
> Kobold Shaman that con'd Red to me, so I assumed the master was DEEP red and
> immediately left.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Briles [mailto:briles@...]
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 1999 12:59 AM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: [eqenchanters] System message.
>
> Aradune send a couple system messages last night. He talked about some
> stuff that he had to some areas. I can't remeber what the names were of the
> places but I have no idea where they are. Could someone infor me on this?
> The names where like (someone)'s Liar and (someone)'s eye. He also said that
> they were for mid to high level players. Huh glad you are specific on that
> Brad. Woud that be level 25-50?
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 03:16:45 -0700
> From: osmosis <osmosis@...>
> Subject: Re: System message.
>
> I heard this broadcast as well... what was most interesting is where he
> mentioned that a group should find a 'underpowered' enchanter (sounded
> sarcastic the way he said it) and get them to use magic resist buffs for
> said zones. Could be that they slipped us in a gem for a change
>
> At 11:59 PM 5/19/99 -0600, you wrote:
> > Aradune send a couple system messages last night. He talked about some
> >stuff that he had to some areas. I can't remeber what the names were of
> >the places but I have no idea where they are. Could someone infor me on
> >this? The names where like (someone)'s Liar and (someone)'s eye. He also
> >said that they were for mid to high level players. Huh glad you are
> >specific on that Brad. Woud that be level 25-50?
>
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