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Message ID: 2488
Date: Tue Mar 21 15:33:18 GMT 2000
Author: Andrew Collins
Subject: RE: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 256


Mesmerization is a great spell for lower levels, at higher levels IMO it is
much better to use entrance. On a usual pull of 1-4 mobs you can entrance,
cast other spells you need to, and meditate. With mesmerization they all
break in 15 seconds and coming charging at you. You cannot override
mesmerization with other mes series like entrance, which is why i dont
prefer the spell at higher levels. Nothing like a zol, dar and kor breaking
mesmerization at once and charging at you.

I used ae mes for a long time up to level 35ish. But i would have to chain
cast mesmerization because of its short duration. We would be the 5 GIBS in
lower guk and i cast mesmerization, and just cast it every 10-12 seconds so
none would ever break.

Mesmerization to me is a backup spell at higher levels. It is still very
good for stopping those trains that come from nowhere (this doesnt happen
that often, but when it does, youll be glad you had ae mes). I also got my
magic resistance over 100 so I could cast it without moving. Sure i would
stil mes myself but maybe 1 out of 20 casts. These days i usually find
myself only with entrance, but if I go out soloing in train happy dungeons
like gukbottom, i may just have it memd.

Also it doesnt matter where you camp (i.e. preacher stage), spawns have a
random chance of popping. Anti-camp code was a rumor started a long long
time ago to keep people from claiming rooms.

Maelael, 50th Enchanter, Veeshan

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Subject: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 256


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There are 9 messages in this issue.

Topics in today's digest:

1. Mesmerisation
From: Jenni <freya@...>
2. RE: Mesmerisation
From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
3. RE: Mesmerisation
From: Jenni <freya@...>
4. RE: Mesmerisation
From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
5. RE: Mesmerisation
From: Jenni <freya@...>
6. RE: Mesmerisation
From: "JasonF" <jasonf@...>
7. Re: Mesmerisation
From: eqcariel@...
8. RE: Mesmerisation
From: Jenni <freya@...>
9. RE: Mesmerisation
From: td <tomaaas@...>


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:46:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Jenni <freya@...>
Subject: Mesmerisation

Hi All!

Just how useful is the Mesmerisation spell for you guys? I've found that
even with bad pulls I've been able to control things with Enthrall and
Charm (been spending a lot of time in permafrost lately). When I use
Mesmerisation I get mezzed too, makes me pretty useless to my group when
this happens (especially when I scream cancel magic and they don't
listen). It helps with the mana involved in large pulls, but is it really
worth it to use?

-Ezrae Dreamstealer
Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
Brell Serilis



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 15:53:57 -0600
From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

In the countless hours that I have spent in the Avatar of Fear room in Cazic
Thule, this is the single most used spell. The trick is not to be standing
close to the critter that you have targetted. I think once you start using
it from a distance you'll start liking it a LOT more.

Qinie Isil'Goren
34 Enchanter

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jenni [SMTP:freya@...]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:47 PM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: [eqenchanters] Mesmerisation
>
> From: Jenni <freya@...>
>
> Hi All!
>
> Just how useful is the Mesmerisation spell for you guys? I've found that
> even with bad pulls I've been able to control things with Enthrall and
> Charm (been spending a lot of time in permafrost lately). When I use
> Mesmerisation I get mezzed too, makes me pretty useless to my group when
> this happens (especially when I scream cancel magic and they don't
> listen). It helps with the mana involved in large pulls, but is it really
> worth it to use?
>
> -Ezrae Dreamstealer
> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
> Brell Serilis
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:06:08 -0600 (CST)
From: Jenni <freya@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

Really? If I try to stay back a bit I get the target too far away
message. It seems like I have to be right in on the action to make it
work. Anyone know what the actual range for it is? (I was testing it in
lake rathe on Aviak Guards, was also hilly where I was if that's a
factor..)
I'm currently fighting mainly in the Preacher room in Perma. (woohoo runed
circlets :) ) The room is pretty small. I don't know how much distance I
can get with it in there. Color Shift/Flux has come in handy in there
though. :)

-Ezrae Dreamstealer
Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
Brell Serilis

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Farr, Robert wrote:

.From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
.
.In the countless hours that I have spent in the Avatar of Fear room in
Cazic
.Thule, this is the single most used spell. The trick is not to be standing
.close to the critter that you have targetted. I think once you start using
.it from a distance you'll start liking it a LOT more.
.
.Qinie Isil'Goren
.34 Enchanter
.
.> -----Original Message-----
.> From: Jenni [SMTP:freya@...]
.> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:47 PM
.> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
.> Subject: [eqenchanters] Mesmerisation
.>
.> From: Jenni <freya@...>
.>
.> Hi All!
.>
.> Just how useful is the Mesmerisation spell for you guys? I've found that
.> even with bad pulls I've been able to control things with Enthrall and
.> Charm (been spending a lot of time in permafrost lately). When I use
.> Mesmerisation I get mezzed too, makes me pretty useless to my group when
.> this happens (especially when I scream cancel magic and they don't
.> listen). It helps with the mana involved in large pulls, but is it
really
.> worth it to use?
.>
.> -Ezrae Dreamstealer
.> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
.> Brell Serilis
.>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:11:16 -0600
From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

It has quite a long range. Not sure why you're having such trouble with it.
I know for a fact that you should be able to hit the preacher with it from
where the hallway enters his room. Keep playing with it. I know you'll be
happy with the results.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jenni [SMTP:freya@...]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 4:06 PM
> To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
> Subject: RE: [eqenchanters] Mesmerisation
>
> From: Jenni <freya@...>
>
> Really? If I try to stay back a bit I get the target too far away
> message. It seems like I have to be right in on the action to make it
> work. Anyone know what the actual range for it is? (I was testing it in
> lake rathe on Aviak Guards, was also hilly where I was if that's a
> factor..)
> I'm currently fighting mainly in the Preacher room in Perma. (woohoo runed
> circlets :) ) The room is pretty small. I don't know how much distance I
> can get with it in there. Color Shift/Flux has come in handy in there
> though. :)
>
> -Ezrae Dreamstealer
> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
> Brell Serilis
>
> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Farr, Robert wrote:
>
> .From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
> .
> .In the countless hours that I have spent in the Avatar of Fear room in
> Cazic
> .Thule, this is the single most used spell. The trick is not to be
> standing
> .close to the critter that you have targetted. I think once you start
> using
> .it from a distance you'll start liking it a LOT more.
> .
> .Qinie Isil'Goren
> .34 Enchanter
> .
> .> -----Original Message-----
> .> From: Jenni [SMTP:freya@...]
> .> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:47 PM
> .> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> .> Subject: [eqenchanters] Mesmerisation
> .>
> .> From: Jenni <freya@...>
> .>
> .> Hi All!
> .>
> .> Just how useful is the Mesmerisation spell for you guys? I've found
> that
> .> even with bad pulls I've been able to control things with Enthrall and
> .> Charm (been spending a lot of time in permafrost lately). When I use
> .> Mesmerisation I get mezzed too, makes me pretty useless to my group
> when
> .> this happens (especially when I scream cancel magic and they don't
> .> listen). It helps with the mana involved in large pulls, but is it
> really
> .> worth it to use?
> .>
> .> -Ezrae Dreamstealer
> .> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
> .> Brell Serilis
> .>
> .>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 16:39:20 -0600 (CST)
From: Jenni <freya@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

I'll definately do that. :) It might have been the hilly terrain I was on
interferring with the distance factor.
We've been breaking the spawn in the preacher room good enough that the
preacher (when and if he spawns) is usually up there alone when he spawns.
It's the fun pulls from back stage, and the other rooms around us that
sometimes get a little big. :) I suppose I could back up toward the stage
a bit for those though.. I'll play with it a bit more and see how it
goes. :)

Thanks for the help!! :)

Ezrae Dreamstealer
Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
Brell Serilis

On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Farr, Robert wrote:

.From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
.
.It has quite a long range. Not sure why you're having such trouble with it.
.I know for a fact that you should be able to hit the preacher with it from
.where the hallway enters his room. Keep playing with it. I know you'll be
.happy with the results.
.
.> -----Original Message-----
.> From: Jenni [SMTP:freya@...]
.> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 4:06 PM
.> To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
.> Subject: RE: [eqenchanters] Mesmerisation
.>
.> From: Jenni <freya@...>
.>
.> Really? If I try to stay back a bit I get the target too far away
.> message. It seems like I have to be right in on the action to make it
.> work. Anyone know what the actual range for it is? (I was testing it in
.> lake rathe on Aviak Guards, was also hilly where I was if that's a
.> factor..)
.> I'm currently fighting mainly in the Preacher room in Perma. (woohoo
runed
.> circlets :) ) The room is pretty small. I don't know how much distance I
.> can get with it in there. Color Shift/Flux has come in handy in there
.> though. :)
.>
.> -Ezrae Dreamstealer
.> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
.> Brell Serilis
.>
.> On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Farr, Robert wrote:
.>
.> .From: "Farr, Robert" <robert.farr@...>
.> .
.> .In the countless hours that I have spent in the Avatar of Fear room in
.> Cazic
.> .Thule, this is the single most used spell. The trick is not to be
.> standing
.> .close to the critter that you have targetted. I think once you start
.> using
.> .it from a distance you'll start liking it a LOT more.
.> .
.> .Qinie Isil'Goren
.> .34 Enchanter
.> .
.> .> -----Original Message-----
.> .> From: Jenni [SMTP:freya@...]
.> .> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 3:47 PM
.> .> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
.> .> Subject: [eqenchanters] Mesmerisation
.> .>
.> .> From: Jenni <freya@...>
.> .>
.> .> Hi All!
.> .>
.> .> Just how useful is the Mesmerisation spell for you guys? I've found
.> that
.> .> even with bad pulls I've been able to control things with Enthrall and
.> .> Charm (been spending a lot of time in permafrost lately). When I use
.> .> Mesmerisation I get mezzed too, makes me pretty useless to my group
.> when
.> .> this happens (especially when I scream cancel magic and they don't
.> .> listen). It helps with the mana involved in large pulls, but is it
.> really
.> .> worth it to use?
.> .>
.> .> -Ezrae Dreamstealer
.> .> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
.> .> Brell Serilis
.> .>
.> .>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:41:38 -0600
From: "JasonF" <jasonf@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

I was about to say.. The dias that the Preacher and Placeholder spawn on my
cause you problems. Maybe you're getting the "You cannot see your target."
message? I've used Mesmerization from a loooong way off.

[48 Bard] Crier (Half Elf) <Seekers of Norrath> ZONE: work
[23 Enchanter] Chiming (Erudite) <Seekers of Norrath> ZONE: work

> From: Jenni <freya@...>
>
> I'll definately do that. :) It might have been the hilly terrain I was on
> interferring with the distance factor.
> We've been breaking the spawn in the preacher room good enough that the
> preacher (when and if he spawns) is usually up there alone when he spawns.
> It's the fun pulls from back stage, and the other rooms around us that
> sometimes get a little big. :) I suppose I could back up toward the stage
> a bit for those though.. I'll play with it a bit more and see how it
> goes. :)
>
> Thanks for the help!! :)
>
> Ezrae Dreamstealer
> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
> Brell Serilis




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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:51:29 EST
From: eqcariel@...
Subject: Re: Mesmerisation

I use this one occasionally depending on where I am and what is being
pulled.
Recently we had a goblin get away from us in Solusek. (We had two not
quite
full groups in the area of the Foreman/Predetor between levels of 24 and 31)

So as soon as the one got away I memorized Mesmerisation.

And boy was I glad that I did.

With the number of people there and the goblin finding well over a dozen
buddies to bring back to the Foreman room there would have been no way to
effectively enthrall each individual one knowing that it was kind of a free
for all in killing them all off. I was able to mesmerize most of them and I

did it a few times as they killed everything off. And I was standing in the

corner farthest from the one I had targeted so I only accidentally
mesmerized
myself once.

Never seen anything like that and live to tell about it : )

Cariel
Enchanter, 31st level
Fennin Ro


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 18:20:31 -0600 (CST)
From: Jenni <freya@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

Nope, I've successfully enthralled what's on the stage from a distance
with no problem. It helps when we're initially breaking the room. :) I
also use Tashani to pull off the stage as well. :)

I'll be playing again tonight, so I'll let you guys know how it goes. :)

Rumor has it though in the preacher room if you walk on the stage it will
cause the Preacher not to spawn, Is this true? He only spawned twice all
day yesterday (and my group was very careful not to walk on the stage.
heh). Any truth in this? :)

Ezrae Dreamstealer
Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
Brell Serilis


On Mon, 20 Mar 2000,
JasonF wrote:

.From: "JasonF" <jasonf@...>
.
.I was about to say.. The dias that the Preacher and Placeholder spawn on
my
.cause you problems. Maybe you're getting the "You cannot see your target."
.message? I've used Mesmerization from a loooong way off.
.
.[48 Bard] Crier (Half Elf) <Seekers of Norrath> ZONE: work
.[23 Enchanter] Chiming (Erudite) <Seekers of Norrath> ZONE: work
.
.> From: Jenni <freya@...>
.>
.> I'll definately do that. :) It might have been the hilly terrain I was
on
.> interferring with the distance factor.
.> We've been breaking the spawn in the preacher room good enough that the
.> preacher (when and if he spawns) is usually up there alone when he
spawns.
.> It's the fun pulls from back stage, and the other rooms around us that
.> sometimes get a little big. :) I suppose I could back up toward the
stage
.> a bit for those though.. I'll play with it a bit more and see how it
.> goes. :)
.>
.> Thanks for the help!! :)
.>
.> Ezrae Dreamstealer
.> Lvl 23 DE Enchantress
.> Brell Serilis
.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 17:44:23 -0800 (PST)
From: td <tomaaas@...>
Subject: RE: Mesmerisation

I don't think it is true. When we camped him a while
back, once we cleared the room, we hang out on the
stage and pulled to it from behind, from the entrance
and sometimes the hallway. He spawned 4 out of first 5
times, then not for the next 3, then again. So I
suspect that it is random.

Arcius

> Rumor has it though in the preacher room if you walk
> on the stage it will
> cause the Preacher not to spawn, Is this true? He
> only spawned twice all
> day yesterday (and my group was very careful not to
> walk on the stage.
> heh). Any truth in this? :)


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