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Message ID: 2305
Date: Tue Jan 11 13:27:33 GMT 2000
Author: Ric R
Subject: Re: how to fight PVP without charm fear??


Howdy folks,

Here is a list of items (along with my thoughts on them) Veriant have
opened for discussion on the PvP form of there web page. I'd like to get
your thoughts about them, and possibly you could jot over and see what's
going on.
The url for the thread is:
http://boards.station.sony.com/everquest/Forum42/HTML/000181.html




1. Experience loss on all deaths. Pro: Would give naked mage/monks
something to lose. Would open some strategies that are
currently illegal (e.g. Snare the kiting druid). Con: Raises some
harassment issues with zone/bindpoint camping.

You've got to be kidding?! I've played +pvp since P4 beta, and
I've never herd such a bad idea! How about making AC/HP/Saves worth more
with equipment? There is NO WAY to prevent bind killing, there are many
more reason why this is just totally unacceptable, I think that one is enough.


2. Binding in city-only for all classes. Pro: Should cut down on
bind-rushing. Con: Might upset casters a bit.

Uhhh, I thought this was just the opposite of what you were looking at
doing. Either way, taking away from one group to help
"balance" another group is just wrong. I think we're all willing to wait
for a true course of action to help resolve this, do it right
Veriant, no shortcuts please, I think we've put up with enough of your
shortcut solutions.


3. "Sick and Tired". Make people come back from death with the
"Ressurection effect". roughly 50% hitpoints and zero mana. Pro:
Should eliminate the emainder of bind-rushing. Con: Would be a pain for
people who are fighting PvE at the time.

WOW A good idea! Sides, it would help increase the need for healer classes.


4. Changing loot to coin-only. Pro: Should make melee classes feel more at
ease. Con: Could make it very difficult for people to
obtain items from unfriendly areas.

Once again, your not thinking! You've got to be nuts to go forward with
those one.


5. Changeing loot to any item, in bag or otherwise. Though I still think
the casters come out on top of this one, I believe there is a
pretty large technology hurdle that has to be overcome for this to be
possible.

What? Is Verant becoming a kool dood now? Frankly, I think allowing
looting of any kind needs to go. There are WAY too many ppl who dont have
the time to earn those items back, espically with the way you've got the
system now. Once again, this is a VERY bad idea.


6. /CON. Making so that anyone above the level limit cons RED, anyone below
cons GREEN, and anyone in it cons
WHITE/BLACK.

Uhhhh, isn't this the way it works now? Pfffttt, either way, how about
just letting the user configure his /con, would be VERY easy to do, and
it'd make everyone happy.


A side note for all servers, not just +PvP...Dont give faction hits for
NPC's that do not exist. A good example of this was
Shadowmen and the Temple of Ro, and currently even much longer, Heretic's
and Erudin. I think many many of us would of not
killed this or that if we knew what faction 420 was going to effect (or
whatever the number was). Painel (?) is another example,
many players have horid factions with Heretics' completly unknowing we wont
be able to enter there city, yet to come.


Telan Ka`Rlaah of Rellos Zek