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Message ID: 2028
Date: Tue Nov 9 15:17:46 GMT 1999
Author: Andrew Collins
Subject: RE: Digest Number 170


When I got my incandescent gloves I put my bloodstained away. Lose +22 mana
for 3str 3agi and 3cha. Thats not a bad trade for me, especially considering
at higher levels #of mana is not as important since it takes so long to
regain the mana. Besides you get a cool new graphic with the gloves.

Maelael, 44 enchanter, Veeshan.

-----Original Message-----
From: eqenchanters@onelist.com [mailto:eqenchanters@onelist.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:12 AM
To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
Subject: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 170




There are 8 messages in this issue.

Topics in today's digest:

1. RE: Digest Number 168
From: Andrew Collins <ACollins@...>
2. Re: Digest Number 168
From: "Danny Devorkin" <devo@...>
3. kialo nuts
From: "Capps, Lee (EDS)" <lcapps@...>
4. Mroons Toy
From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
5. RE: kialo nuts
From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
6. Re: Mroons Toy
From: "Rory Fansler" <refplace@...>
7. More on Twinking?
From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
8. Re: More on Twinking?
From: alliani@... (Randy & Lori Alliani)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:10:00 -0600
From: Andrew Collins <ACollins@...>
Subject: RE: Digest Number 168

give tarn a bloodstone, and you will get a pair of gloves... nuff said :)

-----Original Message-----
From: eqenchanters@onelist.com [mailto:eqenchanters@onelist.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:38 AM
To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
Subject: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 168




There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in today's digest:

1. Re: Digest Number 166
From: Nosferatu <nosferatu@...>
2. Temple of ro quest : GLOVES
From: "Garett" <osmosis@...>


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 22:13:54 -0600
From: Nosferatu <nosferatu@...>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 166



Quentin Goldsmythe wrote:
>
> From: Quentin Goldsmythe <hifireview@...>
<snip>
> Even still, I don't consider twinking to be cheating.
> I earned all of that equipment. Now players buying
> stuff on EBAY... that's a different issue.
>

How is that? your character is reaping the benefits of another's work
(although in normal twinking the Player is the same person doing the
work), its just a matter of what the other person gets out of the
twinking. Or at least that is how I look at it.
/nosferatu
> Q


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:36:58 -0800
From: "Garett" <osmosis@...>
Subject: Temple of ro quest : GLOVES

Hail there fellow enchanters (especially you gnomish ones)!

Recently I have been attempting to complete the quest in the temple for the
enchanter gloves, and I thought i'd see if anyone here has completed it.
I've picked up the radiant gloves from cazic thule, which was a lot easier
than I expected (people often shout that radiant is dead in the hall and
he's got the gloves). I know that if I camp the shadowmen in west commons
long enough I'll get the shadow gloves... as long as they dont kill me too
many times. I'm only 29 after all... The other two pairs I hear I can buy
from gypsies in lavastorm, so thats not a big issue (I hope).

Now, the problem. When given the quest, a bloodstone from tarn vislin is
mentioned. Now you probably know tarn... he's the guy in high keep that
sells the enchanter pets. Well, he doesnt sell bloodstones. When hailed he
says "Hi there! I'm tarn vislin, nice to meet you' or something useless
like that. NOW, do I need to get this bloodstone, or is it just added to
the quest to throw us off?


Thanks in advance!


Cogg - rallos zek



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:39:29 -0500
From: "Danny Devorkin" <devo@...>
Subject: Re: Digest Number 168

ya know, its interesting, but i got a pair of bloodstained gloves, and they
are very nice...which is better, the bloodstained gloves, or incadecent
gloves?

----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Collins <ACollins@...>
To: <eqenchanters@onelist.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 168


> From: Andrew Collins <ACollins@...>
>
> give tarn a bloodstone, and you will get a pair of gloves... nuff said :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eqenchanters@onelist.com [mailto:eqenchanters@onelist.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 5:38 AM
> To: eqenchanters@onelist.com
> Subject: [eqenchanters] Digest Number 168
>
>
>
>
> There are 2 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in today's digest:
>
> 1. Re: Digest Number 166
> From: Nosferatu <nosferatu@...>
> 2. Temple of ro quest : GLOVES
> From: "Garett" <osmosis@...>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 22:13:54 -0600
> From: Nosferatu <nosferatu@...>
> Subject: Re: Digest Number 166
>
>
>
> Quentin Goldsmythe wrote:
> >
> > From: Quentin Goldsmythe <hifireview@...>
> <snip>
> > Even still, I don't consider twinking to be cheating.
> > I earned all of that equipment. Now players buying
> > stuff on EBAY... that's a different issue.
> >
>
> How is that? your character is reaping the benefits of another's work
> (although in normal twinking the Player is the same person doing the
> work), its just a matter of what the other person gets out of the
> twinking. Or at least that is how I look at it.
> /nosferatu
> > Q
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:36:58 -0800
> From: "Garett" <osmosis@...>
> Subject: Temple of ro quest : GLOVES
>
> Hail there fellow enchanters (especially you gnomish ones)!
>
> Recently I have been attempting to complete the quest in the temple for
the
> enchanter gloves, and I thought i'd see if anyone here has completed it.
> I've picked up the radiant gloves from cazic thule, which was a lot easier
> than I expected (people often shout that radiant is dead in the hall and
> he's got the gloves). I know that if I camp the shadowmen in west commons
> long enough I'll get the shadow gloves... as long as they dont kill me too
> many times. I'm only 29 after all... The other two pairs I hear I can
buy
> from gypsies in lavastorm, so thats not a big issue (I hope).
>
> Now, the problem. When given the quest, a bloodstone from tarn vislin is
> mentioned. Now you probably know tarn... he's the guy in high keep that
> sells the enchanter pets. Well, he doesnt sell bloodstones. When hailed
he
> says "Hi there! I'm tarn vislin, nice to meet you' or something useless
> like that. NOW, do I need to get this bloodstone, or is it just added to
> the quest to throw us off?
>
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> Cogg - rallos zek
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 10:53:36 -0600
From: "Capps, Lee (EDS)" <lcapps@...>
Subject: kialo nuts


has anyone recently had a problem acquiring kiola nuts from sister island?
i went to sister island last night and i couldn't get any of the sisters to
sale to me.
tried all 3 buildings and they just conned (indifferent as a half-elf) and
that's it...
they would not open a merchant trade screen for some reason.

also, has anyone found any kialo nuts anywhere else?
the quest does mention that some are found in the karanas or qeynos (i can't
remember off hand)

btw, i've done the quest before as an enchanter on another server.



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:21:48 -0900
From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
Subject: Mroons Toy

I got a hold of Mroons Toy in a trade. Trouble is that no one knows what it
is worth, not even the guy I got it off of. One of my guildmates wants it
and I am trying to find a fair price. Can anyone here help?
Here are the stats:
2HB 20DMG 70DLY
WAR SHD SHK
large races only.

Thanks
Brian


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:24:59 -0900
From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
Subject: RE: kialo nuts

I have had no trouble with getting nuts from the sisters. Last time was on
Thur I think. I have not found the nuts anywhere else. I have one in the
bank i can sell to you.

Camai on Brell

-----Original Message-----
From: Capps, Lee (EDS) [mailto:lcapps@...]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 7:54 AM
To: 'eqenchanters@onelist.com'
Subject: [eqenchanters] kialo nuts


From: "Capps, Lee (EDS)" <lcapps@...>


has anyone recently had a problem acquiring kiola nuts from sister island?
i went to sister island last night and i couldn't get any of the sisters to
sale to me.
tried all 3 buildings and they just conned (indifferent as a half-elf) and
that's it...
they would not open a merchant trade screen for some reason.

also, has anyone found any kialo nuts anywhere else?
the quest does mention that some are found in the karanas or qeynos (i can't
remember off hand)

btw, i've done the quest before as an enchanter on another server.



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:41:56 -0600
From: "Rory Fansler" <refplace@...>
Subject: Re: Mroons Toy

Prices depend on local market conditions.
Look around for comparable weapons and sell it at a comparable price.
It is not an awesome item, which is why your having trouble finding a price.

Stonedreamer.


>From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
>
>I got a hold of Mroons Toy in a trade. Trouble is that no one knows what
it
>is worth, not even the guy I got it off of. One of my guildmates wants it
>and I am trying to find a fair price. Can anyone here help?
>Here are the stats:
>2HB 20DMG 70DLY
>WAR SHD SHK
>large races only.
>
>Thanks
>Brian
>
>


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:36:29 -0900
From: Brian Pifer <bpifer@...>
Subject: More on Twinking?

First the safe question:

I am a level 12 enchanter, what gear/items do you think I should have?
Please answer this question as it is the one I am most interested in.


Now the others:

How do you (as in every one of you, all of your opinions count) determine
that a player has twinked? Is it by money? I have had several hundred
plat at level 12. I have spent much time on my jewelry business and it is
booming. Is it rare items? Most players have grouped with those a few
levels above them. What if you grouped with someone MANY levels above you
(say they needed someone with SOW or Invis)? Wouldn't they give you a turn
at looting? Didn't you stand toe to toe with them, fighting, and earn it?

What if you're a chicken and only fight blue/green's, getting little exp and
lots of loot. Take that loot and turn it into better items. If trading
with other players/NPC's was against the intent of Everquest, why did they
develop trade skill and an economy? If trading is OK, why couldn't someone
take months to level and still trade for the upper items (outpacing what
most feel is usual for that level)?



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 05:59:15 GMT
From: alliani@... (Randy & Lori Alliani)
Subject: Re: More on Twinking?

My *personal* opinion. Twinking is defined by a character receiving
money or items (s)he hasn't *earned*. If you can go kill a bunch of
skeletons and sell the bone chips for a hefty amount - so be it. That
character did the "work", that character performed the sale
transaction, that character got the benefits. Having another (usually
higher) character "help" would be twinking.

Just my 2 coppers

Facet

<snip>

>How do you (as in every one of you, all of your opinions count) determine
>that a player has twinked?

<snip>


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