don't know if there is that much of a problem on Zek after all if a
weaker char has something a stronger and mostly grudge or non-aligned
character has he just kills and loots him...Thou i may be wrong.
Lori Martin wrote:
>
>
> I wish that price-lists and standardized pricing really worked, but no
> matter how hard we try, it doesn't have much chance of succeeding.
> Why?
>
> 1) Enchanter Jerks - For whatever reason, there are those who insist
> on ruining jewelcraft for the rest of us by charging little or nothing
> for their wares or by undercutting us at every turn. These false
> enchanters are just interested in earning a quick buck, not in jewelry
> as a long-term and useful skill.
>
> 2) Market Flooding - Even on Prexus (a fairly new server) the silver
> market is already totally flooded. People don't know or don't care
> about the money you sink into the skill, they have seen on other
> servers or on the current servers that the prices are low to the
> ground and refuse to pay a reasonable amount for silver. If we try to
> save the market, it will have to be for electrum or higher.
>
> 3) Non-Enchanter Items - It's even more frustrating to be undercut by
> a non-enchanter selling a similar loot item for no money. They paid
> nothing to get it and can undercut us any day of the week. Given the
> option of paying 7-8 plat for an enchanter-made intelligence ring or
> 5-6 plat for a similar loot item with an extra armor class bonus, who
> will choose the former? (example: +3 charisma necklace - a couple
> plat to make if no failures versus a doll that does the same thing - 7
> gold to buy or free to loot).
>
> 4) We can't make what they want - True, some jewelry (int, str, mana,
> etc) sells decently. But, so many more want mana earrings or
> intelligence bracers or whatever that will never be an option for us.
> ("What earrings do you have?" "Only Stamina ones" "Oh, sorry, I need
> _____ ones"). Then, they go off in search of the loot item that will
> give them what they need.
>
> Does this mean we shouldn't try? Of course not, but don't expect a
> miracle because we set the price for jade mana rings at say 10 pp per
> ring throughout the servers. We need to educate people ... maybe a
> seminar or something where we all get together and sell our wares at
> the standard price and try to let the populace know why we sell them
> for that much and how the +2s and such all add up to help them out.
>
> I'm not interested in making a whole lot of money with jewelcraft
> (that's what my brewing skill is for), but I do want to make enough
> money to be able to raise my skill. For now, I mainly sell back
> unenchanted stuff to vendors or sell/trade for gems with my
> guildmembers to get money for my skill until I get to electrum. Then,
> perhaps the market will be more willing to buy my stuff.
>
> For those of you who can easily sell items for what they are worth ...
> perhaps you can give a seminar to those of us who keep finding
> ourselves with unsellable product and dozens of tells from people who
> find out the price we charge and either say they don't have enough
> money or run away from us laughing to their nearest loot monster.
>
> We can save electrum if we start now. Don't be discouraged, we just
> need to teach people the worth of our products and come up with a
> valid reason for them to buy at our prices.
>
> Thanks for listening
> Dietrich (Prexus server)
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