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Message ID: 1512
Date: Tue Jul 6 15:33:37 BST 1999
Author: Lori Martin
Subject: Jewelry and pricing (long txt)


I wish that price-lists and standardized pricing really worked, but no
matter how hard we try, it doesn't have much chance of succeeding. Why?

1) Enchanter Jerks - For whatever reason, there are those who insist on
ruining jewelcraft for the rest of us by charging little or nothing for
their wares or by undercutting us at every turn. These false enchanters are
just interested in earning a quick buck, not in jewelry as a long-term and
useful skill.

2) Market Flooding - Even on Prexus (a fairly new server) the silver market
is already totally flooded. People don't know or don't care about the money
you sink into the skill, they have seen on other servers or on the current
servers that the prices are low to the ground and refuse to pay a reasonable
amount for silver. If we try to save the market, it will have to be for
electrum or higher.

3) Non-Enchanter Items - It's even more frustrating to be undercut by a
non-enchanter selling a similar loot item for no money. They paid nothing
to get it and can undercut us any day of the week. Given the option of
paying 7-8 plat for an enchanter-made intelligence ring or 5-6 plat for a
similar loot item with an extra armor class bonus, who will choose the
former? (example: +3 charisma necklace - a couple plat to make if no
failures versus a doll that does the same thing - 7 gold to buy or free to
loot).

4) We can't make what they want - True, some jewelry (int, str, mana, etc)
sells decently. But, so many more want mana earrings or intelligence
bracers or whatever that will never be an option for us. ("What earrings do
you have?" "Only Stamina ones" "Oh, sorry, I need _____ ones"). Then, they
go off in search of the loot item that will give them what they need.

Does this mean we shouldn't try? Of course not, but don't expect a miracle
because we set the price for jade mana rings at say 10 pp per ring
throughout the servers. We need to educate people ... maybe a seminar or
something where we all get together and sell our wares at the standard price
and try to let the populace know why we sell them for that much and how the
+2s and such all add up to help them out.

I'm not interested in making a whole lot of money with jewelcraft (that's
what my brewing skill is for), but I do want to make enough money to be able
to raise my skill. For now, I mainly sell back unenchanted stuff to vendors
or sell/trade for gems with my guildmembers to get money for my skill until
I get to electrum. Then, perhaps the market will be more willing to buy my
stuff.

For those of you who can easily sell items for what they are worth ...
perhaps you can give a seminar to those of us who keep finding ourselves
with unsellable product and dozens of tells from people who find out the
price we charge and either say they don't have enough money or run away from
us laughing to their nearest loot monster.

We can save electrum if we start now. Don't be discouraged, we just need to
teach people the worth of our products and come up with a valid reason for
them to buy at our prices.

Thanks for listening
Dietrich (Prexus server)