Thanks exactly the info I was looking for :)
Maybe we should put this thread to sleep before it gets kaboinged, hehe
Musiker, bertox
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donny Dane [mailto:ddane01@...]
> Sent: 26. juni 2001 15:51
> To: eqbards@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: OT Hardware (was:- RE: [eqbards] New Video Card and more
> Ram - th e results for me...)
>
>
> some pieces from a couple of posts...
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Sanders [mailto:christopher.sanders@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:39 AM
> > To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: OT Hardware (was:- RE: [eqbards] New Video
> Card and more
> > Ram - th e results for me...)
> >
> >
> > Forgot to reply to this. :)
> >
> > Reliability is up...a lot.
>
> Well, I built a couple of hundred pc's in the last year...
>
> Intel - about 1 in 250 doa
> AMD - about 1 in 50
>
> Intel - none malfunctioned if it worked out of the box
> AMD - about 1 in 30 malfunctioned sometime between out of the
> box and the
> end of burn-in (72 hr running hot & heavy programs)
>
> Just my personal experience working in a pc shop...
>
> OTOH, I've heard great things about the new 1.3ghz
> AMD's...haven't actually
> messed with one, but a friend of mine has built 10-15
> machines from them,
> and 10-15 intel p4 1.7ghz...He says the AMD's he's built are
> more stable,
> and run as much as 30% faster than the same build as an intel
> p4, on EVERY
> app, games, utilities, and business apps. I'm gonna get one
> soon and try
> it.
> >
> > On the overclockers forum I frequent, I can recall no posts
> lamenting DOA
> > processors offhand...and these are people who share every
> step they take
> > when OC'ing their machines. :) The 2 biggest processor
> killers on the
> > forum are heat casualties and crushed cores from trying to install
> > heatsinks. :)
> >
> > There is no real reason to not consider equally an AMD
> machine vs an Intel
> > machine, when shopping around.
> >
> > Atonal
>
> Nah, more bang for the buck...consider also, any pc builder
> worth their salt
> will have filtered the bad processors out before you ever get
> to see the
> machines, i.e. doa rate and failure rate are gonna be much
> lower than the
> builders.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henrik Holm [mailto:HEH@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:27 AM
> > To: 'eqbards@yahoogroups.com'
> > Subject: RE: OT Hardware (was:- RE: [eqbards] New Video
> Card and more
> > Ram - th e results for me...)
> >
> > <snip>
> > >
> > > And a bit more reliable (less out-of-the-box failures with Intel)
> > >
> >
> > Aye, Ive been an avid Intel fan, but do this still count? I
> know before K7
> > AMD had pretty lousy stability and QA. I havent heard about
> any problems
> > with k7 series though??
>
> Dunno, i quit the shop I was working at a little over a month ago, and
> haven't messed with any since then, but the failure rate was
> still pretty
> bad about 3 months ago. More than I would trust, but AMD
> seems to be alot
> better about warranty issues than Intel...you can get a
> replacement AMD
> rather quickly (if you didn't nuke it w/ heat or crush it) while Intel
> wanted to take a while and test the processor you sent back,
> etc. (from an
> OEM source...most of ya'll won't have that channel).
>
> My take on the whole issue is:
> If you need a solid business machine, buy one from the big
> manufacturers,
> i.e. Dell, Gateway, etc. AMD/Intel
> If you want a solid gaming machine, buy one from the big gaming
> manufacturers, i.e. Falcon Northwest, Alienware, etc. AMD
> If you don't mind dinking around, and possibly having some
> major downtime,
> build it yourself. Intel before AMD
> If you don't have the cash to invest in one of the big rigs, build it
> yourself, but be ready for some pitfalls. AMD before Intel.
>
> Oh, yeah...I have been real impressed with the 2 machines
> I've seen from
> Alienware...One a couple of years ago, was the fastest PII I
> had ever seen,
> doing anything. The latest and greatest my buddy has, AMD
> 1.3, top of the
> line Alienware, absolutely smokes on any task you run on
> it...he dual boots
> between win2k and win98se...and both os's tear up games. (I have no
> association to Alienware, don't even own one...but the next
> machine I buy
> instead of build is gonna come from there...hmm...if I ever
> buy a machine
> again...hehe)
>
> MacGrough Mich'Rathe
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