I have only found about 2 runes, I am level 23... so you aren't unlucky,
just aren't many out there... I have also found a lot of pages and words,
20+...
Zebbi D'Arcanus (E'Ci)
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Bratina [mailto:
gbratina@...]
Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 9:54 PM
To:
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Subject: Re: [eq_wizards] Make research fun
From: "Tom Bratina" <
gbratina@...>
u must have been in a high lvl group to get those two items, or u bought
them. at lvl 19, u r no where near able to get the robe and tomb in a party
of equal lvls. but yes, i have only got a total of 5 runes from looting
monsters... 4 of them for the lvl 16 spells, and 1 for a lvl 29 spell.
maybe i just have bad luck...
Sinarlu Ce`alen
Rallos Zek - Lvl 26
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From: Wizard <
wizard@...>
To:
eq_wizards@onelist.com <
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Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [eq_wizards] Make research fun
>From: Wizard <wizard@...>
>
>Im a lv 19 wizard now and i get a Flowing Black Robe and a tome today and i
>also have more then 30 runes on me and in bank strange that you find only 5
>runes?
>
>
>
>
>At 08.09 21/06/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>From: "Tom Bratina" <gbratina@...>
>>
>>i like it. i have steered away from research, as it's just so hard to
find
>>runes. i have found probably over 100 words/pages and have only found a
>>total of 5 runes. this makes it real hard for our class. even if i were
>>finding the same runes over and over again, at least i would be able to
>>raise my skill lvl (I have only made two spells, only because those are
the
>>only runes ive been able to find).
>>
>>Sinlaru Ce`alen
>>Rallos Zek
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: shypht <evanschu@...>
>>To: eq_wizards@onelist.com <eq_wizards@onelist.com>
>>Date: Monday, June 21, 1999 8:50 AM
>>Subject: [eq_wizards] Make research fun
>>
>>
>>>From: "shypht" <evanschu@...>
>>>
>>>When I first started EQ and was told about the research skill. I thought
>>>"Wow! Cool I'll be able to find new spells". But low and behold what a
>>>dismal dissapointment this skill is. It is a skill that you NEED to be of
>>>any use at high lvls. More and more of your "Main Spells" become research
>>>only, the skill is TEDIOUS AS HELL to raise, finding runes can be hard.
>>>Finding the ones you need is the worst and finding enough of the ones you
>>>need to get to a descent skill level is HELL.
>>>
>>>So what do I suggest for this skill? A few things
>>>
>>>(A) Have 2 spell components per rank buyable at guilds. So you can buy
the
>>>runes/components you need at that lvl to get to a descent skill to make
>>your
>>>other spells.
>>>
>>>(B) Make all of the "Main Spells" buyable. So for
>>>
>>>- Wizards : Direct damage, Gates
>>>- Magi : Direct damage, pets
>>>- Encs : ???? Buffs and Debuffs ???
>>>- Necros : Pets and DoTs
>>>
>>>These would be the "basic spells" for those ranks. Things like area
effect,
>>>buffs/debuffs for some class's. Root, util spells, etc would be research
>>>only. Then, have some nice "upgraded" DDs, DOTs, Buffs, etc that are rare
>>>research runes. And verant could constatnly be adding new combos, etc.
ie)
>>>
>>>lvl 29 wiz spell does 240 dmg. Make it buyable (which it is), Have
another
>>>lvl 29 wiz spell that is harder to get, research only, etc, but have it
do
>>>like.. 270 dmg for only a few more mana.
>>>
>>>If verant was to be constantly adding componet combos/etc to the game it
>>>would add alot to it.
>>>
>>>So for example, a wizard would get every DD and every teleport buyable.
But
>>>any of his other spells would need to be researched, etc.
>>>
>>>Or a magi could buy every "basic pets" he would need. But he could be
lucky
>>>and manage to research a pet at the same lvl that has more hp and hits
for
>>>more damage then his standard one would.
>>>
>>>(C) In certian areas in the game, you should be able to invoke the
research
>>>skill to digup components. Much like the forage skill. ie) Wizard is
>>putsing
>>>about in Befallen, in the library he uses his research skill, he may dig
up
>>>a rune from the shelf that could be used for a spellt aht he needs. This
>>>would also provide an alternative way to raise your skill.
>>>
>>>(D) Have various components that change the effect of your spells. And
the
>>>mana/dmg/cast time.
>>>
>>>(btw: I play a wizard so all my examples will use wizards, this does not
>>>mean I want to "buff up the class" since this would effect all the other
>>>casters in this game aswell)
>>>
>>>So, lets say I find rune Hot and rune Bolt, which would make the Inferno
>>>Shock spell. I dont want to have the "standard" look of the inferno shock
>>>spell. I'd like it to look like a healing spell but just do a pallet swap
>>so
>>>it looks like fire not the cool-healing blue it is. I'd also like to
>>incrase
>>>its mana efficeny by sacraficing it's casting time ( so it takes longer
to
>>>cast ). So while researching the spell, I toss in the componets and pop
out
>>>the inferno shock spell. Then, I put the scrool back into the wizards
>>>lexcion, then mix/match combos etc untill I get the new desired effect
that
>>>I want.
>>>
>>>I think this would add ALOT of diversity to all of the magic casters.
Every
>>>other magi looks like the next, every wizard looks like the next when
>>>casting. Not a whole lot sets them apart.
>>>
>>>Wizard (A) May have a fast casting inferno shock that is less manna
>>>efficent, but he can pop them off faster then wizard (B), whos inferno
>>shock
>>>does more damage but takes alot longer to cast.
>>>
>>>Comments ?
>>>
>>>
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