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Message ID: 1386
Date: Sat May 15 01:46:32 BST 1999
Author: Ken Morris
Subject: Re: Ice Comet


My friend, I invite you to bring a 22nd lvl Necro out to the Cauldron, take
on a yellow Tidal Lord and then tell me he doesn't have to med. You are
very much mistaken if you think he doesn't and I almost guarantee he will
lose his pet in the process.

The enchanter's have some nice buffs, this is true, but against mutiple
enemies, I will take a Cleric and a Wizard every time. Our AE spells are
unmatched by any and the Enchanter can't touch a Cleric when it comes to
buff spells.

Again, I disagree, I have never had to sit longer than a mage or necro of
the same lvl in our group. Never. Its all on how you play your character.

Once again, a Mage can take out 2-3 blues just like us, but will lose his
pet and will be out of mana. Guaranteed. I know, I've played a Mage up to
lvl 17.

Just my thoughts on this. Again, eveyone is entitled to their own opinions
and I'm not putting you down for stating yours, but in my belief, you are
mistaken.

Talarin Kal'Amon, High Elven Wizard




----- Original Message -----
From: Wizard <wizard@...>
To: <eq_wizards@onelist.com>
Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [eq_wizards] Ice Comet


> From: Wizard <wizard@...>
>
> At 06.10 14/05/99 -0400, you wrote:
> >From: "Ken Morris" <kmorris2@...>
>
> >"It appears that yes we wizards
> >to a increasing damage amount per circle of spells (near double each
time),
> >but what troubles me is that the monsters get factorially more hit
points."
> >
> >I don't quite understand your point here. Are you saying that we should
be
> >able to take out creatures in one or two shots??? That's crazy, it would
> >totally unbalance the game.
>
> I agree on this
>
> > Of course the creatures are going to get more
> >HP the higher lvl you go. We still do more dmg than any other class in
any
> >given round. I can now cast a spell that does 175 dmg. I can cast this
> >spell 6 times and enstill 1 time. I'm currently taking out yellow Tidal
> >Lords solo in the Cauldron and in a group,
>
> Nice thing ..... a necromancer can do it also and will not have to sit and
> meditate after this why?
>
> >I have reduced the amount of dmg
> >our tanks normally take because the creatures die much faster.
>
> Enchanter is much better on this if you fight multiple enemies his buffs
are
> valid all time you will spend your mana very fast and he will have a pet
after
> a fight.
>
>
> >"But, as it has been
> >pointed out, the wizard is constantly on his ass meditating."
> >
> >Of course he is, that's part of being a wizard, or any other magic-using
> >class. Sitting on your ass meditating is not any different for a mage or
> >enchanter than it is a wizard, so once again I miss your point here.
>
> It is much different a magician or necro or enchanter will have to sit
much
> much less then you, ask somone who played at last two classes to over lv
20.
>
> >"1. Speed up casting time for Wizards. This would allow us to cast
> >in-between attacks with our newest spells.(the only class that would be
able
> >to do so)."
> >
> >First off, our casting time IS faster than the other magic-using classes.
> >Secondly, what you purpose about casting in between attacks would
seriously
> >hinder our class. As it is now, if we are in a group and attack too
often,
> >the creature turns to us and starts ripping us a new one. Not a good
thing.
> >That's why you spread your attacks out, never blasting them one right
after
> >another.
>
> No need for faster casting time but...
>
> >that extra little kick, although there is nothing 'little' about being
able
> >to deliver 175 dmg in one shot. A warrior of the same lvl with a 2-h
sword
> >can still only do 40 dmg in one round. I CAN solo 2-3 blues before I'm
out
> >of mana. I've been hunting Bosuns and Shamans, both of which are blue to
> >me, in the Cauldron and can usually take 2-3 of them before I have to
med.
>
> Hmm what do you think how many blue can solo a expert magician at lv 22
> without
> need to med and he can survive 3 blues in same time if he sacrifices a pet
and
> sometimes also win. (not to mention some other magic users)
>
>
> My comment wich i post under other tread i repeat it so to try to explain
it
> better and not to multyoly treads on same subject.
>
> In my first post i don't explained it good so i try to explain it better.
> I like to play a wizard as i play wizards in all games for more than 12
> years now, but if we talk about balancing all magic users to same lv then
i
> see some problems with a wizard class, i wish to see your comments on this
> and other ideas to make a game more playable without throwing a balance
out
> or tring to make a overpowerfull class.
>
> First positive things
>
> - wizards are great for plane(after 34+ lv), group travel (druid is best
> in individual and nearly as good in group)
> - wizards are best in DD damage spells (but not in damage to mana ratio
DOT)
> - wizards spells are less resisted and it damage at last for one part
> moust other class spells are resisted full
> - wizard is fastest to deal a massive damage in shortest time (but a
price?)
>
> Negativ things
>
> - Wizards have lowest defence, hit points and ac of all classes (lowest
> combat survivel)
> - wizard spells do massive damage but also use masive mana but when wizard
> uses it mana it is useless. Fighting is not a wizard strong side, wizard
> dont have pets, dont have buffs, dont heal, they dont run well.
> - Wizards risks very very much in combat agains only 2 blues
>
> First i don't wish to say that a wizard is not good or playable class it
is
> nice but it is also a class with most downtime of all clases so as a
result
> a 2 equaly expert people playing sametime will never get equal play time,
> wizard will most time be in his book. Why this hmm lets see
>
> All other Magic users have better mana usage then wizard, why pet is a
best
> mana use it damages, it defend, it tount and it never expires until it
dies
> ( i personaly dont like this pets i wish to have a cat or dog od mouse :-)
> not for combat but as familiar ) . Buffs as result do more damage and DOT
> spells are much more mana efficent then our DD spells.
>
> So what can be done to make a wizard a time efficent to play as other
> classes are. I suggest a faster mana recovering ratio not too much but a
> 1.3 or 1.2 faster times can help and its easy to implement one number
> change in formula and go go go.
>
> Here i dont put in effect of specialization as for now it is not in game (
> long beta ) and i dont know if in later levels exist any only wizard mana
> regeneration booster but i heared of "mana stone" but noone knows what it
> is and when you find it.
>
> Thanks all for reading and as i live in italy my english is not maxed yet,
> but i please you to join a discussion and to not take to hard my spelling
> mistakes.
>
>
>
> Silverion
> High elf wizard (against all statistics eheheeh)
>
>
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