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Message ID: 890
Date: Fri Oct 15 20:33:41 BST 1999
Author: Seamus McNeill
Subject: Re: Digest Number 94


Also with FD....say you take away 4/5th of a critters life...then FD. If
someone comes along and does the last 1/5th of damage...he gets full exp
and you get none. When you attack something then FD...any damage you did
is now considered, i guess "anonymous" would be the best word. And the
person who kills it gets credit for the whole thing. It's a good way to
stack exp on someone too....almost kill something...then FD and let him
finish it for full EXP.

~S

On 15 Oct 1999 EQ-Monks@onelist.com wrote:

>
> >
> There are 14 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in today's digest:
>
> 1. RE: Aviaks and feign
> From: Adam Hayek <Adam@...>
> 2. RE: Aviaks and feign
> From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> 3. feign death
> From: CLMarkley@...
> 4. Re: feign death
> From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> 5. Re: feign death
> From: "Dizzy J." <dizzyj@...>
> 6. RE: feign death
> From: "Bennett, Brian" <BRIAN.BENNETT@...>
> 7. Re: feign death
> From: "Tim Perkins" <tperkins@...>
> 8. Re: feign death
> From: "Dave Woomer" <dwoomer@...>
> 9. RE: feign death
> From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> 10. RE: feign death
> From: "Dizzy J." <dizzyj@...>
> 11. FD that Aviak
> From: "Jim Barnhart" <jimmydo2@...>
> 12. Re: feign death
> From: JnglSkyPWR@...
> 13. Re: FD that Aviak
> From: "Dizzy J." <dizzyj@...>
> 14. Feign Pulling Yet Again
> From: "Dave Woomer" <dwoomer@...>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:46:41 -0500
> From: Adam Hayek <Adam@...>
> Subject: RE: Aviaks and feign
>
> I dont know about harriers, but i know that Avocets will definitely come
> back and attack you after you get up from a feign.
>
>
>
> > From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> > Subject: RE: Digest Number 91
> >
> > I have a question for all the higher level monks out there. I am of
> > the 26th
> > season and I was wondering, when you solo the aviak guards in Lake
> > Rathe if
> > you need to feign death you can, then you can stand right back up and
> > bandage and continue on with the fight, my question is can you do the
> > same
> > to aviaks in the aviak village, I was wondering because if you can
> > that
> > means I can solo harriers instead of just rooks. Thank you for your
> > time. Oh
> > by the way I bought my BP Choker last night, and now I am broke, but I
> > am a
> > satisfied broke hehehe, and I also traded for a Shralok Pack for my
> > opal
> > electrum necklace too.
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:34:55 -0700
> From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> Subject: RE: Aviaks and feign
>
> Yeah harriers do come back, well at least the one I fought did any ways.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Hayek [mailto:Adam@...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 11:47 AM
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> Subject: RE: [EQ-Monks] Aviaks and feign
>
>
> From: Adam Hayek <Adam@...>
>
> I dont know about harriers, but i know that Avocets will definitely come
> back and attack you after you get up from a feign.
>
>
>
> > From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> > Subject: RE: Digest Number 91
> >
> > I have a question for all the higher level monks out there. I am of
> > the 26th
> > season and I was wondering, when you solo the aviak guards in Lake
> > Rathe if
> > you need to feign death you can, then you can stand right back up and
> > bandage and continue on with the fight, my question is can you do the
> > same
> > to aviaks in the aviak village, I was wondering because if you can
> > that
> > means I can solo harriers instead of just rooks. Thank you for your
> > time. Oh
> > by the way I bought my BP Choker last night, and now I am broke, but I
> > am a
> > satisfied broke hehehe, and I also traded for a Shralok Pack for my
> > opal
> > electrum necklace too.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:18:33 EDT
> From: CLMarkley@...
> Subject: feign death
>
> I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably, and a
> list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:28:16 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> Subject: Re: feign death
>
> If you are in combat you have to stop attacking before you feign.
> (Hit A then feign).
>
> You know it works when you do not see any message. If you see a message
> "Monk has fallen to the ground", it's failed. Get up run for 8 seconds
> or trying fighting, whichever you want to do. then get ready to feign
> again.
>
> Also, if something is casting a spell on you, it will always hit you,
> there is no escape.
>
> >
> > From: CLMarkley@...
> >
> > I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> > wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably, and a
> > list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
> >
> > >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:44:27 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Dizzy J." <dizzyj@...>
> Subject: Re: feign death
>
> it has worked rather well against everything I've fought (and hid from) so
> far (lvl 20).
> griffawns, reavers, broon, giants, spectors, crocks, dbskells, dervs,
> craig spiders (damn I've gotten a lot use out of fd)
>
> so far, most creatures will run back to you when you get up. I think mobs
> in dungeons have a higher percentage chance of not returning (hence the fd
> pull).
>
> tips for using it:
> 1) wait till after your hit. do hit fd right when a mob is swinging, if
> they hit you, they will see past fd.
> 2) wait till after a caster blasts you (same reason)
> 3) turn off auto attack for a few seconds (so you dont hit them) before
> you hit fd
> 4) (I think I'm the only one to do this) jump away from the mob right
> before you hit fd. got to time it right. this way, you are out of range,
> and so are they.
>
> when I first got it, it saved my life onece, then killed me. I was trying
> it out on an orc warrior in oasis. I fd, then got right back up, he
> aggroed on me. I fd'ed again, and waited for him to walk off. thought
> that was neat. the warrior walked off in the direction of a dbskell. the
> dbskell attacked, and the orc came running back to me (with the skell).
> the skell killed the orc, then killed me :). after that, I decided to put
> most of my points into it to get it to a somewhat usable level (got it to
> about 65 I think).
>
> -dj
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 CLMarkley@... wrote:
>
> > From: CLMarkley@...
> >
> > I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> > wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably, and a
> > list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
> >
> > >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:26:54 -0400
> From: "Bennett, Brian" <BRIAN.BENNETT@...>
> Subject: RE: feign death
>
> Easy. If you're getting hit, it won't work. If you're being cast upon, it
> won't work. So you have to either put some distance between yourself and
> what's whackin' ya, or time it between spell casts. In my experience, if a
> baddie casts a DOT on me, I will never fool them.
>
> Plus you have the baddies that will remember you, and come back after you
> after you pop back up. SG's and Harriers and stuff.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: CLMarkley@... [mailto:CLMarkley@...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:19 PM
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> Subject: [EQ-Monks] feign death
>
>
> From: CLMarkley@...
>
> I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably, and
> a
> list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:44:02 -0700
> From: "Tim Perkins" <tperkins@...>
> Subject: Re: feign death
>
> Practice is the only way to make it more reliable. you will learn how and
> when to use it. You can almost always use it as I have not found any mobs
> that will not be fooled by it but you cant forget the mobs that will run
> back /q is very good for these situations.
>
> Kizmet Bayashi
> 40th level monk
> E-Marr
> Da`Kor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <CLMarkley@...>
> To: <EQ-Monks@onelist.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:18 PM
> Subject: [EQ-Monks] feign death
>
>
> > From: CLMarkley@...
> >
> > I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> > wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably,
> and a
> > list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
> >
> > >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:26:48 -0400
> From: "Dave Woomer" <dwoomer@...>
> Subject: Re: feign death
>
> I don't know if this has made it to the production servers yet or not, but
> on Test Server, when you hit Feign Death, auto attack is automatically
> disengaged.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com <EQ-Monks@onelist.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] feign death
>
>
> >From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> >
> >If you are in combat you have to stop attacking before you feign.
> >(Hit A then feign).
> >
> >You know it works when you do not see any message. If you see a message
> >"Monk has fallen to the ground", it's failed. Get up run for 8 seconds
> >or trying fighting, whichever you want to do. then get ready to feign
> >again.
> >
> >Also, if something is casting a spell on you, it will always hit you,
> >there is no escape.
> >
> >>
> >> From: CLMarkley@...
> >>
> >> I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> >> wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably,
> and a
> >> list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:22:11 -0700
> From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> Subject: RE: feign death
>
> it already has been... it has been like that for awhile.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Woomer [mailto:dwoomer@...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:27 PM
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] feign death
>
>
> From: "Dave Woomer" <dwoomer@...>
>
> I don't know if this has made it to the production servers yet or not, but
> on Test Server, when you hit Feign Death, auto attack is automatically
> disengaged.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com <EQ-Monks@onelist.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] feign death
>
>
> >From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> >
> >If you are in combat you have to stop attacking before you feign.
> >(Hit A then feign).
> >
> >You know it works when you do not see any message. If you see a message
> >"Monk has fallen to the ground", it's failed. Get up run for 8 seconds
> >or trying fighting, whichever you want to do. then get ready to feign
> >again.
> >
> >Also, if something is casting a spell on you, it will always hit you,
> >there is no escape.
> >
> >>
> >> From: CLMarkley@...
> >>
> >> I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> >> wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably,
> and a
> >> list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
> >>
> >> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:49:09 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Dizzy J." <dizzyj@...>
> Subject: RE: feign death
>
> even still, lag often causes you to throw one last punch. thats why
> people recomend turning off autoattack first.
>
> -dj
>
> On Thu, 14 Oct 1999, Lombard.Mikhael wrote:
>
> > From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> >
> > it already has been... it has been like that for awhile.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Woomer [mailto:dwoomer@...]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 1:27 PM
> > To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com
> > Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] feign death
> >
> >
> > From: "Dave Woomer" <dwoomer@...>
> >
> > I don't know if this has made it to the production servers yet or not, but
> > on Test Server, when you hit Feign Death, auto attack is automatically
> > disengaged.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> > To: EQ-Monks@onelist.com <EQ-Monks@onelist.com>
> > Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 3:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] feign death
> >
> >
> > >From: Dave Gaines <dave@...>
> > >
> > >If you are in combat you have to stop attacking before you feign.
> > >(Hit A then feign).
> > >
> > >You know it works when you do not see any message. If you see a message
> > >"Monk has fallen to the ground", it's failed. Get up run for 8 seconds
> > >or trying fighting, whichever you want to do. then get ready to feign
> > >again.
> > >
> > >Also, if something is casting a spell on you, it will always hit you,
> > >there is no escape.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> From: CLMarkley@...
> > >>
> > >> I just got the skill, and used all my practices to max it. Now i was
> > >> wondering if anyone has any tips as hhow to make it work more reliably,
> > and a
> > >> list of the types of (or individual) mobs that can see through it.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:57:19 -0700
> From: "Jim Barnhart" <jimmydo2@...>
> Subject: FD that Aviak
>
> As at 25th and often back to 24th level Monk fighting in the Aviak Village,
> I can definitely say the FD Bandage trick works on Rooks and Harriers
>
> But it will not work if someone else is attacking the bird...
> or if someone ran an Agro Bird by you while your were fighting
> or if something causes the bird to go agro while you are bandaging
> I have had Spell Casters Nuke a Bird while I was bandaging ( they said they
> were trying to help - as I came back from Lake Rathe to Retrieve my Corpse)
> and of course the Bird agro's on you , no the nuker.
>
>
> Also make sure you are attacking the bird at or near it's spawn point, or it
> will wander away while you are bandaging :(
>
> at 25th I have not been able to kill a Harry this way yet... I do not need
> it any more for rooks - but I have come close - I burned through 30 bandages
> and two FD's and then died ( I have seen the message "caene has fallen to
> the ground" three times now at level 25 I have not seen that message since I
> was level 19 :(
>
> I think once I get Dragon punch maxed I should be able to Solo Harrys, but
> for now it would take at least 50 bandages, and that is just not cost
> effective
>
> Caene 25th Circle ( often 24th ) Mith Marr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lombard.Mikhael <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> To: <EQ-Monks@onelist.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:26 AM
> Subject: RE: [EQ-Monks] Digest Number 91
>
>
> > From: "Lombard.Mikhael" <Mikhael_Lombard@...>
> >
> > I have a question for all the higher level monks out there. I am of the
> 26th
> > season and I was wondering, when you solo the aviak guards in Lake Rathe
> if
> > you need to feign death you can, then you can stand right back up and
> > bandage and continue on with the fight, my question is can you do the same
> > to aviaks in the aviak village, I was wondering because if you can that
> > means I can solo harriers instead of just rooks. Thank you for your time.
> Oh
> > by the way I bought my BP Choker last night, and now I am broke, but I am
> a
> > satisfied broke hehehe, and I also traded for a Shralok Pack for my opal
> > electrum necklace too.
> >
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:54:21 EDT
> From: JnglSkyPWR@...
> Subject: Re: feign death
>
> auto attack does go off when you FD, but mobs won't buy it. You have to turn
> off auto attack before FD. You don't have to wait 2 or 3 seconds after this,
> just need to make sure you hit your auto attack button right before you FD.
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:15:23 -0500 (CDT)
> From: "Dizzy J." <dizzyj@...>
> Subject: Re: FD that Aviak
>
> > were trying to help - as I came back from Lake Rathe to Retrieve my Corpse)
>
> can you be bound in lake rathe? I thought the closest place was the
> arena?
>
> -dj
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:36:11 -0400
> From: "Dave Woomer" <dwoomer@...>
> Subject: Feign Pulling Yet Again
>
> Hi, all.
>
> Is there ANY way to separate mobs that stack one on top the other? I was in
> Najena today trying to pull the Ogre Captain. I'd hit him and run back out
> of the room. He would come along with one of his officers. But they were
> directly on top of each other and they would consistently leave together.
> What am I doing wrong?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
>