well @lower lvls monks can't really do that much dmg and they don't have
alot of hps... pretty much just a weak tank.
however when you get feign death that helps u out. when things go wrong your
casters can gate and you can feign.
however after your casters get evac u will rarely use feign... i don't even
train it anymore cuz i hardly ever use it.
the only time i use feign now is when i go exploring or when i'm try'n to
sort out mobs when i'm pull'n.
but sorting is gett'n to where it hardly works anymore because more mobs are
staying aggro on u forever.
also, if u do die.. u can get your friendly neighborhood cleric... to res u
for 75% exp return... not a bad deal. and now since everyone has bitch about
exp loss from death, they cut that in half.. making feign that much more
useless.
i was looking forward to doing alot of dmg when i got upto higher lvls... i
figured it would make up for the lower lvl hell that a monk goes through and
the fact that we can't carry crap or wear anything that looks decent.
but if u think your gonna be able to start the best class in the game now
and it be the best class by the time u hit 50... think again.
this is a very politically correct game... who ever whines the most... gets
fixed up a little... so i guess it's our turn to whine *sigh*:(
its really sad we hafta do that though.
we had a really nice class b4 all the enhancements.
i better stop this.. i'm just depressing myself and several other up
incoming monks out there....:(
-----Original Message-----
From: Reedo [mailto:
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Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 3:25 PM
To:
EQ-Monks@onelist.com
Subject: Re: [EQ-Monks] Monk Armor and the short end of the stick
From: "Reedo" <
reedo@...>
Wow, after all of that I'm really inspired. Is there any hope in sight for
a monk. I just started my monk and plan on taking him to a high level but if
we are pretty worthless at very high levels I might reconsider. I really
need to know what you think of the monk class. I don't want to start this
character and have him become useless. Is there anything that might be
added to the class to make it better? What do you think?
Mark
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> >don't really know why you need a monk anymore though... since the
warriors
> >are doing more dmg than ever.. they got more hps.. and they can taunt...
> >casters seem to like that taunt thing.. it can come in handy in keeping a
> >party alive... it really sucks to see one of my casters gett'n the crap
beat
> >out of em and there is nothing i can do about it... as a matter of fact i
> >normally just stay on the 1st mob until he's dead... tanks normally have
to
> >taunt off the casters when we get more than one... and they take more dmg
> >than ever... high lvl monks hardly ever take dmg... not because of block,
> >dodge, reposte and such... but because we can't taunt... i've gotten to
> >where i normally do the pull'n just so i can take some dmg before the mob
> >jumps on a caster and it has to be taunted off by the tank.
> >actually i think if there were more high lvl warriors and i wasn't such
good
> >friends with the ppl i normally party with i would probably get
replaced...
> >just like our server's 1st high lvl rogue.)
> >
> >sorry to go off the subject like that... but this has been bugging me for
a
> >while..(
>
> No, no!!! Don't apologize! This has been really on my mind
> for the last several days. One of the things I accepted when I
> became a monk was that I wouldn't really 'come into my own' until
> level 30 when Flying Kick became available - at which point I could
> start being a more serious contributor to how the party functions.
> Well, now that I'm less than a bubble from that turning point, Verant
> updates warriors in such a fashion so as to make monks a clearly
> second-class melee type. Consider the following notes regarding some
> of the skills afforded each class:
>
> Mend: Monks get it, warriors do not. With a successful mend, we have
> about as many HPs available to me as a warrior of a similar level.
> Needless to say, we do not always have mend available, so we are
> typically at a disadvantage in terms of hit points. Result: Healers
> would rather have warriors around because they don't have to heal
> them as often (all else being equal).
>
> Taunt: Monks don't get it, warriors do. Result: Casters would rather
> have a warrior around when they are getting beat on.
>
> Armor: Monks don't get it, warriors do. Result: All sorts of neat
> bonuses and stat boosters not available to us.
>
> Weapons: Don't get 'em (from a pracitical perspective). Result: All
> sorts of interesting effects we don't get to throw around.
>
> Extra Magic Resistance: Monks don't get it, warriors do. Result: We
> are far more vulnerable to magic attacks than warriors are. Team
> members don't like this because they have to rush to your aid more
> often.
>
> Critical hit: Monks don't get it, warriors do. Result: A warrior I
> group with (who is lower level than I am) REGULARLY criticals in the
> 70-90+ range. I can't expect to hit in the 90s until I'm level 45+
> (16 levels from now) and even then, it'll be a rare occurrence off of
> a special attack. Where once we had a rough parity in the amount of
> damage we could do, this has been completely destroyed with the last
> patch.
>
> Monks get more hits: I don't buy it. A warrior and a ranger I often
> group with multi-hit just as often as I do and since they are using
> cool double-weilded weapons, they do much more damage per hit.
> Besides, the theory that more hits help break up a caster's
> concentration also does not hold water. Any decent NPC (level 25+)
> will recover their concentration 9 times out of 10 and finish the job
> anyway.
>
> There is more, but I'm running the danger of getting myself a
> little too worked up about this. The bottom line is that I feel as
> if monks have been cheated by a too-generous tweaking of warriors.
> Am I way off-base here, or do others feel as I do?
>
> --
> Aaron Braunstein
> Pacific Data Management, Inc.
>
> <aaron_braunstein@...>
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