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Message ID: 141
Date: Tue Jul 13 18:35:15 BST 1999
Author: Robb Flynn
Subject: RE: Feign Death vs. casters and anomolous failures


Here is a question along these lines...

While hunting in Unrest, I contracted rabies during a fight. A moment later,
a Hag came around the corner and cast on our paladin. I FD successfully and
everyone else runs, with the Hag in pursuit. The MoB I was fighting however,
the non-casting mummy that had given me the rabies, continued to beat on me.
I stood up, just me and the Mummy now, FD successfully again, and end up
getting killed by the mummy. My question is twofold... 1) Is rabies
considered a DoT? I know it says "You resist the weak disease spell" or
something similar, but actually thought that was a bug since the mummy does
not cast any spells. 2) If we a re hit by a DoT, does that nullify the use
of FD? I ask this because since a previous spell is affecting us, does the
cast then know that we are not dead?

Thoughts?

Praelor

btw... I contacted a guide about this and was told "Sometimes monsters just
aren't fooled by feign death, even if you are successful". Excuse me, but
if they aren't fooled, exactly HOW are we successful??


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Braunstein [SMTP:aaron_spam@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:23 PM
> To: eq-monks@onelist.com
> Subject: [EQ-Monks] Feign Death vs. casters and anomolous failures
>
> From: Aaron Braunstein <aaron_spam@...>
>
> I posted this on another list, but wanted to share it with this one
> as well to see if anybody might be able to help solve the mystery of why
> FD
> fails without a message sometimes.
>
> At 9:23 AM +0200 7/13/99, Brian Peter Thorsbro wrote:
>
> >When faced with a caster you should turn off autoattack and wait for the
> >spell to hit you. Then feign before the caster starts a new spell. That
> is
> >the way to trick a caster with feign death.
>
> Interesting suggestion, and it would seem to jive with some of my
> own experiences with FD lately. I've been racking my brains trying to
> figure out why it is that FD fails to stop an aggressor's attacks even
> when
> no "xxx has fallen to the ground" message. Clearly, it has failed but we
> have no indication of this other than the fact that we're still getting
> pounded. Some of my thoughts on the subject are these, any modifications
> to this list would be well appreciated:
>
> 1 - Feigning when mobs are frenzied on you has a dramatically higher rate
> of failure than against non-frenzied mobs.
>
> 2 - Feigning 'mid-attack' seems to fail more frequently. Perhaps it goes
> something like this:
>
> a) Mob starts his swing
> b) Feign performed (no message of failure)
> c) I stob being the mob's current target
> d) Blow lands, re-instating me as the current target
> e) Mob keeps pounding on current target (me).
>
> I don't know if this is really what happens or not, but it would
> fit with the previous poster's 'wait until the caster has done his thing'
> suggestion. Also, have you noticed that after you kill a mob, you still
> sometimes take a swing and occasionally see a damage message AFTER the
> thing has died? Perhaps this is an artifact of the above sequence.
>
> 3 - Still not sure whether or not stopping your attack before feigning
> affects things except perhaps exacerbating the situation outlined in #2.
>
> Well?
>
> --
> Aaron Braunstein
> Pacific Data Management, Inc.
>
> <aaron_braunstein@...>
>
>
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