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Message ID: 1071
Date: Thu Dec 16 16:09:48 GMT 1999
Author: Dave Gaines
Subject: Re: Digest Number 122


>
> From: "Goode, Jason" <JGoode@...>
>
> Just for clarification, I'll assume when you say "you", you mean the vauge,
> general, collective "you", not me in particular, as you've not once seen me
> complain, but rather, just this once, try to speculate as to exactly why so
> many are so upset. Now, on to your points:
>

Yes, excactly, not you in particular at all, you as in general, anyone.


> What you say about the social evolution of games is true, but I'll wager
> most of the EQ players about today didn't grow up with bridge night with
> the Jones' from next door. For them, this is largely a new phenomena.
>

No bridge, but they should have played some tag, hide and seek, kickball,
hopscotch, monopoly...social contact in games is, I hope, not new at all.


> Nor, do I recall that anyone has once stated that their existing friends
> deny them groups and interactions. So, discard that paragraph.
>

Sorry, I assumed by the statements I have previously read, like
"can't find any group at all", and "no one wants monks now" that they
weren't exaggerating.

>
> Look, if you want to help, stop further insulting them and making them feel
> worse. Instead, do this:
>
> 1) Come up with examples and arguments demonstrating that they can still do
> everything they used to, or alternately propose new ways in which they can
> explore and express.
>

Monks can't. Verant believes the ability of classes to pull so safely
at high levels was simply too powerful, and thus they took it out of the
game. Half the power of FD is gone; its time to learn to live with the
change. There is no work around, monks need to suck it up and go on.

Formal, well thought out complaints are fine, but I find statements like
"Its more than a game, gimmie FD back" just plain silly. How many
weeks of venting do I have to endure?

I play a wizard...I have watched them take away our easy root/nuke/nuke
strategy. I watched them take away our escape tool, jboots. I watched
them take away our toy, manastone. Each time I suck it up. I still
have friends, I still meet new people. My power is greatly reduced
still.


But The game is just a game. Monks have been tuned (nerfed), life
and game go on.